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Published: Friday, June 27 2014 10:09 p.m. MDT

Updated: Friday, June 27 2014 10:09 p.m. MDT

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Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Our founding fathers were very inspired to create a balance of power government. Obama is being reigned in by the SCOTUS and is learning that he isn't our King!

Kouger
Lehi, UT

Should "we the people" have expected something different from someone who has no idea of what he's doing? Someone who admitted that he's still in training for the job of POTUS?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

unanimous?

Maybe barack should have known what he was doing was illegal. But baracks above the law

ute alumni
SLC, UT

I am so glad that we have a community organizer "leading"this country. I can't imagine having someone (Mitt) that is truly intelligent and competent leading now. It is going to be a long 2 1/2 years til barry leaves office, unless he is booted out first....Well we can hope for change.

4601
Salt Lake City, UT

This is a victory for the rule of law and a defeat for an imperial president.

Shimlau
SAINT GEORGE, UT

according to the article speaker John Boehner said "asserting that Obama has failed to carry out the laws passed by Congress." Not to be argumentative but in a real request for information, would this not be considered "high crimes and misdemeanors"? If so, wouldn't this then be reason for impeachment?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

the last 6 years have been an abuse of power

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

@Shimalu

Obama has impeachment insurance: Joe Biden. That's why he picked Biden as VP, to make sure we wouldn't impeach him (it gives Obama more flexibility to pursue his plans to fundamentally change America).

xert
Santa Monica, CA

Wow. Seven responses. Some seem to think he's imperialistic. I praise him for negotiating right through this do nothing congress that isn't fit to stand on the steps of our Capitol. Like or dislike our President, but don't try to say that he didn't get anything done. If you do I'll laugh at you from my obamacare hospital bed with my same sex husband sitting by my side while we take in a DVD of zero dark thirty and privately thank our president for saving our economy and hoping he will close gizmo and put an end to torture and rendition in his last two years.

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

Just trying to grasp how significant this is. Even the two liberal justices HE appointed ruled against him.

Any reasonable person who is not totally narcissistic and arrogant would get the message. We live in a constitutional republic not a banana republic.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:xert

Our ecomony retracted this year ...for the first time. Yes that means our GDP was less in 2013 than in 2012. Were you aware of that or perhaps MSNBC failed to enlighten you? The highest food stamp percent of any president. The lowest college graduation placement percent of any recent president. A sick economy that has NOT expanded but has instead retracted and shrunk. China is set to pass the US this year economically as the worlds largest economy and all under Barack's watch. Your understanding of economics is ...well ...challenged to say the least. The ONLY thing your socialist president has grown is our national debt....he has taken a debt of 8.9 trillion to 17 trillion...the largest increase in US history....and by the way that is a bad thing in case you were wondering as seen by our credit downgrade two years ago. As far as getting Bin Laden...it was the intel from Gitmo that the Seals used to get him and as I recall didn't Barack try to close Gitmo?? Coruption + weakness + incompetence don't equate to greatness....but nice try.

David
Centerville, UT

Obama, Reid and Democrats complain that they can't get anything done because of Republicans in Congress. But that is what voters have created. The president cannot simply, unilaterally, go around Congress just because voters have created a divided government. This is not what the Constitution nor the Founders envisioned. Obama has definitely been acting illegally, and against our Constitution.

The Supreme Court just stated that exact point.

How can Obama, Reid and Democrats respond? Ideally they would follow the law that has been further defined by the Supreme Court and cease to act unilaterally, and to act within the Constitutional powers given them, by the People.

But I would be surprised if Democrats and Obama will retreat to a legal, safe position of action. Instead, they will squirm, rationalize, twist and wrangle some convoluted interpretation of their own from the Supreme Court decision, or simply ignore it, as they have ignored so many other laws.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"Our ecomony retracted this year ...for the first time. Yes that means our GDP was less in 2013 than in 2012."

Patriot, you are in rare form today. Osama bin Laden was found via information from Gitmo? Really" And how exactly did prisoners who hadn't had contact with the outside world in years come to know the location of Osama? And how did exactly these prisoners learn of Osama's location?

Year over year, 2012 to 2013, the US economy grew. Period. In Q1, the economy contracted from the previous quarter. That is all that happened - hence why Wall Street didn't react to the number.

The Chinese economy is going to surpass the US economy, there is nothing any President can do about it. China simply have more consumers in their economy then we ever will. Someday, India will to. It is math, not politics. And in case you forgot, China is a very socialist country..... so claims that socialism is retarding economies falls completely on its face in that example.

The ruling by the SCOTUS was very narrow in scope, and upheld the concept of recess appointments., which Reagan used many time more often.

....but Nice try.

UtahBlueDevil
Durham, NC

"The president cannot simply, unilaterally, go around Congress just because voters have created a divided government"

David, interesting points... but the truth is that "voters" have only indirectly caused this problem. It is the gerrymandering of congressional districts that has caused this problem. When people like Hatch - which I have absolutely no problems with - can run basically year over year unappeased because the districts they own are never are never at risk, they can vote in extreme partisan ways. Districts are set up to reinforce a single party vote rather than have truly competitive elections. It creates very odd behavior.

To the rest of your, I hate to say it, extremely Parisian fluff.... both sides are guilty of this. The executive branch is predisposed to interpret laws and apply them in a context that matches their agenda. Every single presidency has had their actions challenged in the Supreme Court. In some cases, like Reagan, it results in up to 21 people being criminally charged - though that is the exception.

The executive and legislative branches have had exchanges like this for two centuries.

sid 6.7
Holladay, UT

Another "look at me" move by the Republicans. Meanwhile the cannibalism of their party continues so much so that even your strongest media supporters are turning against you. And lest we not forget about Ms. Palin's plans to create her own "Freedom" party which ironically enough condones taking away everybody's freedoms. I would also think it's a bad sign when one begins to feed on itself as the Republican seems to be doing.

This law suit is nothing more than Banier attempting to keep his party together. And just like all the other stuff he has done to undermine our President this to shall fail.

I think we all know who is in trouble.

I wonder what all of the time and money that is going to be spent on this fruitless effort could do to really help America?

By the way, well done Blue Devil.

David
Centerville, UT

UtahBlueDevil,

You are correct that for centuries we have seen tension and conflict between the executive and legislative branches of government. But the Supreme Court has now ruled in a unanimous decision that the president went beyond his powers and authority. Hardly Parisian (partisan?) fluff.

And do you believe Democrats don't or wouldn't gerrymander when you have Reid and Obama advocating for the president going around Congress illegally? Unconstitutionally?

Despite gerrymandering, voters have cast their votes and created divided government. Obama has to work within the structure of the Constitution and the balance of government. He cannot rationalize or justify unconstitutional action because he and Congress cannot get along. I just can't see how liberals can explain this one.

one old man
Ogden, UT

How quickly voters forget. And that is exactly what the GOP counts on when people like Orrin Hatch and his henchmen blast Obama for use of recess appointments. But when they do, they are neglecting to also tell us the truth about past appointments.

According to the Congressional Research Service, President Ronald Reagan made 240 recess appointments, President George H. W. Bush made 77 recess appointments, President Bill Clinton made 139 recess appointments. President George W. Bush made 171 recess appointments, and as of June 1, 2014, President Barack Obama had made 37 recess appointments.

There are only two words for our GOP side of Congress.

DISGUSTINGLY DECEITFUL.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

" . . . the four justices on the conservative side of the court . . . "

Why slip in that piece of misinformation I wonder? There are five justices on the Conservative side of the court, not just four.

That's why the Supreme Court has been so detrimental to this nation for so long . . . the Bush V Gore and the Citizens United decisions being the worst travesties of justice perpetrated against American citizens so far this century.

This recent decision was most likely the correct one, given the 9-0 margin, but I certainly don't blame Obama for taking unilateral action in giving this nation good governance.

Republican obstructionism is an extremely perverse form of political terrorism being perpetrated against the people of the United States, and it must be challenged.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

There's Republicans all around me
I'm standing in a crowd
I can hear them screaming
and their rants are so loud

The ones that are not crying
Are passed out on the ground
They did see it coming
or even hear the sound

Progressive people want freedom
their souls are open and proud.
Vote out the conservative lust
and save in God We Trust.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@LOU Montana

How does progressives wanting greater and more government in their lives,
wanting bigger, more controlling government,
wanting government to control and dictate their schools, their business, their healthcare, their marriages, their children, wanting more government in their religions, in speech, in their privacy,

in fact every aspect of their lives.

equate in any way to progressives wanting freedom?

how does advocating for a president who tramples the constitution, ignores constitutionally created law. who legislates from the whitehouse equate to progressives wanting freedom?

Your poem doesn't pass the smell test, nor bear any resemblance to reality.

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