Election year poliitics. The left toys with raising the minimum wage while the
right plays with attacking all things BO. Each is intended to rile up the base
while the big issues of the day sit on the shelf.
It's amazing it has come to this, but one does wonder where the line can be
drawn when a President and his administratin admit openly that they will enforce
laws not passed by Congress, and or ignore ones they have sworn to uphold.
I'm not sure the great founding fathers could have ever imagined
Presidential power like that. And if they did, I suppose they figured that the
press would take down said President in due course, like they did with Nixon.
I'm sure the founding fathers never figured a 4th estate press that would
protect Presidential overreach of power for political purposes. Question to
any and all who support Obama in this. Are you forsighted enough to imagine
what it will be like in America if a Republican President comes in in 2017 and
not only dismantles the Obama executive orders but then goes on a conservative
rampage with his own executive orders? You should be a little worried about
unchecked Presidential power regardless of political party.
Obama's problems go far beyond selective enforcement.He has
circumvented the law by requiring a blanket review of 300,000 deportation
orders. He has gone beyond his power by creating his DREAM Act by fiat.He lacks the authority to rewrite the ACA on the fly.This action is way
Wait, I thought conservatives were against frivolous lawsuits? I don't
like Obama at all but this is the very definition of a frivolous lawsuit.Conservatives, are you really only against frivolous lawsuits until they
go after a liberal or a liberal cause? Hypocrisy.
This is what's known as "Pandora's Box." Be careful when
playing with fire, Mr. Boehner, you and your fellow Republicans just may also
Secret muslim, birth certificate, Bengahzi, many others I've forgotten and
not enforcing Obamacare which you oppose anyway. Must be a slow week.
@m.g. scott - "You should be a little worried about unchecked Presidential
power regardless of political party."Sage advice. Shame that
you only suggest it with the current Democratic president, the one who's
used 'unchecked Presidential power' fewer times than any of his living
predecessors@Say No to BO - "Obama's problems go far beyond
selective enforcement."And Republican's problems go far
beyond selective memory.Obama has used executive orders and signing
statements fewer times than any of the last 5 presidents. Obama's
administration has seen more blocked appointments than any of the last 5
presidents.Obama's administration has seen more filibusters than the
last 5 presidents combined.Republican legislators stated openly following
his election that they would do whatever possible to oppose President Obama.These are verifiable, readily available facts. According to
Boehner and Co, this is an issue with the current president. For those choose
not to substitute their 'truth' for facts, we realize where the
problems truly originate.
"The fact that they are considering a taxpayer-funded lawsuit against the
president of the United States for doing his job, I think, is the kind of step
that most Americans wouldn't support . . ."Most Americans
would not support it. But "Conservatives" certainly will support it.They like nothing better than wasting many BILLIONS of the taxpayers'
money and the nation's credibility in senseless grandstanding . . .
Government Shut Downs . . . Threats to not raise the debt ceiling . . .
whatever strikes their fancy.And now a new low for Congress is in
the making.No other Congress has lowered themselves to this extent. This
Republican-dominated House of Representatives is crawling on its collective
belly like a reptile . . . Like a sideshow geek at a cheap carnival . . . Saying
“look at me!” It's really too bad
"Conservatives" can't actually do anything good for the country
though, isn't it?A lawsuit is certainly something new. I
thought "Conservatives" felt Americans were too litigious. But it's
a new day, and "Conservatives" have new and more interesting ways to
waste money and demean America.You've got to give them credit
for being creative though, you know?
siloThe shame is that Obama is doing things with Presidential power that
is illegal. Many Presidents use executive power to do legal things, but to NOT
enforce laws, like immigration for instance, is not in keeping with the oath of
office. Obama has gone way beyond other Presidents with this. You seem to
believe that Congress has no right to oppose Presidents and fillabuster, or
block appointments. That is their legal right to do so, and their duty when
elected by people who oppose the President and his party. Welcome to democracy
silo. And I would like you to at least give an answer to my question. How will
you be reacting if a Republican gets into office and does what Obama is doing?
You won't like it will you. If you think about it, Obama may be setting an
unprecedented precedent for future Presidents. I for one want most power in the
hands of the many in Congress, messy as that can be, rather than a dicatatorial
one in the White House.
Silo -"Presidents use executive power to do legal things, but to
NOT enforce laws"Uh . . . It is the DUTY of the executive branch
to enforce the law, and our President is the head of the executive branch.
What a sad deal to attract attention! The Speaker of the House should be a
better leader than this hog wash!
The congress has the right to take this action but they should be careful what
they wish for a court of law only cares about what you can prove. The rhetoric
plays well on AM radio but not so much in a court of law.
At last! Someone holding Obama accountable!
mg scott"The shame is that Obama is doing things with
Presidential power that is illegal"Opinion and speculation. If
it's actually true, then have your boys initiate the impeachment process
and stop wasting time with pointless lawsuits. Either Boehner and clan have
something, or they're posturing for votes."Obama has gone
way beyond other Presidents with this."Again, opinion and
speculation. Every president since Washington has used executive orders, and
the past 5 Presidents all used them more than Obama. You claim Obama's
use is 'illegal' and 'unprecedented'. Fine...cite those
numbers versus the previous Presidents. Don't just claim it as fact
because you think it's so, walk the walk."And I would like
you to at least give an answer to my question. How will you be reacting if a
Republican gets into office and does what Obama is doing?"Here's your answer. I think it's despicable that any president has
the power to use signing statements and executive orders. But I think the
hypocrisy and false outrage displayed by the likes of you and Boehner is worse.
It's about time, but impeachment would be a better idea.
Is there a way we the American people can sue Boehner for shutting down our
government and costing us billions?Can we sue congress for being the
least productive congress in history?Just how much more time and
money will be wasted on this?Can Boehner ever actually propose
legislation? That's sorta his job. It seems like just a distant memory when
congress actually tried to govern.
Election year politics.If the President broke the law, the House (of
which he is the Speaker) has the sole power of impeachment. No need
"sue" and deal with issues of standing. If you feel he has
violated his oath, move for impeachment. Otherwise this is just pure posturing.
Legal action costs a lot of money.Just where will the money come
from for this action?From what budget will it come from?
Where's Johnny Cochran when we really need him. Oh yea..
@VSTI am in no way advocating for the President's impeachment;
but this law suit is nothing short of silly.The Constitution
provides a way for Congress to deal with a renegade President, so why is the
Speaker seeking extra-constitutional measures? Unless...he is playing election
year politics?The GOP has a majority in the House; the one body with
the power to formally accuse the President of wrong doing. Why is he not
seeking to excerise that power if he feels the President has gone rogue?
Well, Boehner isn't doing anything else of value, might as well sue the
President.We welcome the drama, and we welcome even more ineffectual
governing by our trustworthy Congress.
Trot out every sideshow you can. Do you have some tears too, John?
This President has an Attorney General whois very complicit in his
responsibilities and both are attorneys with a White House full of them to push
agendas. The House of Representatives is supposed to represent the nation from
the powerful Executive officers and Senators since the beginning and especially
100 years ago when the process was changed for Senators being elected. Money is
power and 6 years at a time is even more power.The problem with the
President being impeached is who would become the President and who he would
choose as Vice-President to succeed him and the potential for Mr. Biden to be
elected in 2016 as an incumbent. The people elected the President fully knowing
what he had done and will do in the future as a lame duck. President Clinton
did quite a few things after President Bush was elected that got people unhappy
and impacted his first year, especially with the process before 9/11 with the
political appointees of agencies not coordinating information on terrorist
An election year stunt, pure and simple. This is designed to be a dog whistle
to the extremist elements of the Republican Tea Party. The tactic
will work, politically. However, legal shenanigans rarely work. Mostly likely
this will backfire as did the government shut down.People expect the
Congress to work together with the President to make the country run. Sooner or
later this do-nothing element of the Republican Tea Party will be tossed into
the trash bin of history.
The golden rule, who has the gold makes the rules.
The title of this has a hidden meaning that should not have been published that
way. It shows more than disrespect for the office of Speaker of the House.
No president is a king.We need checks, and balances.
Apparently it is not just Boehner that thinks the President is violating the
law. The SCOTUS just ruled unanimously that Obama violated the law with his
not-so recess appointments. It is amazing how some people can still defend
Others have said it before, but I will say it here.Liberals cheered
when Nixon was impeached, and Nixon did less than Obama. If impeaching Nixon
was good for the petty crimes he was charged with, why is it not to be spoken
about Obama being impeached?
siil repulican non action again.
Hey Redshirt -"Liberals cheered when Nixon was impeached . . .
" . . . As well they should. Nixon's high crimes and
misdemeanors included Obstruction of Justice, Abuse of power, and Contempt of
Congress.Obama on the other hand, has been charged with nothing.Why? . . . Because he has NO committed criminal acts.Do you
see the difference now?
GaryOBO has committed no criminal acts?BO's high crimes
and misdemeanors include obstruction of justice, abuse of power, contempt of
congress, selling guns to mexican cartels, and using the IRS to target political
opponents.BO could sacrifice a child to Molech on live TV and you
would defend him.Sorry you will never be able to see the difference
@RedShirt...Once again another comment posted prior to any factual research. My
suggestion is to read and research exactly what crimes Nixon was charged. In
closing, I do thank you for the usual laughter after reading yet another one of
your highly nonsensical posts. Please keep up the good work!
To "Jimmytheliberal" since you don't know history very well, lets
show you the parallels.Nixon had multiple articles of impeachment
filed. From article 1 we find that he was using the CIA for illegal activities
against his enemies, he lied or mislead investigators and the American Public,
he used executive privelage to prevent information from being obtained in a
criminal investigation.The Whitehouse has been loosely connected to
the IRS scandal, Obama lied to the American public about gun running to Mexico
and Benghazi and is witholding evidence of wrong doing via executive
privelage.From Article 2 on Nixon we find that it contains a list of
his abuses of power. Nixon and Obama administrations used the IRS to obtain
information on their opponents and gave that information to their supporters.
Both failed to uphold their oath to ensure that the US laws were being followed,
both acted outside the limits of the constitution (Obama even brags about it and
tell us that he is going to circumvent the constitution).From
article 3 we hear how Nixon directed people to retain papers that showed
criminal ativity. Where are all the emails on from the scandals that the WH is
lost -You're list of bogus crimes you attribute to Obama are
just as invalid as the pretend scandals you "Conservatives" keep coming
up with.Sorry man, but you're lost somewhere in Right Wing La
La Land.Here in the land of reality, Obama has committed no
crimes.He has been doing his job though, and that's what angers
"Conservatives" who insist he cannot.
@RedShirt(s)...Well clearly you most have a personal relationship with D.N.
online monitors because I'm continually unable to respond to your last
comment and forced to strip down my retort. I wonder why? Regardless of the
obvious partisan slant and the inability to retort regarding your plethora of
nonsensical posts along with a different set of standards when it comes to us
libs posting I will attempt one final time. You mentioned that I did not have an
understanding of history. Well I will inform my instructors at Yale that they
need to improve their class syllabus. Furthermore, I agree about keeping it
simple. Especially on this forum. Please feel free to list and and all ACTUAL
crimes that our President has supposedly committed. In closing, I direct you to
"GaryO's" post in which he stated " Here in the land of
reality, Obama has committed no crimes". May I offer you an invitation to
join us anytime.
@RedshirtPlease, look at your history. Nixon was never impeached.
He resigned before impeachment proceedings took place, and was pardoned by
President Ford immediately.The only two Presidents to have been
impeached were Andrew Johnson and Bill Clinton; and both were acquitted by the