@ CougsndawgsSour grapes, much?Utah is in a P5
conference, and is therefore a P5 team. The week-in-week-out grind has been
tough on Utah, as it has been for TCU and WVU as well. But they are not
mid-majors. Also, FWIW Utah is 9-1 in non-conference games. That indicates
Utah is still a quality program.
Utah fans...it's real simple. U ARE midmajor...no amount of PAC12 stickers
or PAC Country billboards will ever change that. Vanderbilt is midmajor, Iowa
state is midmajor, Rutgers is midmajor. Being invited to, or part of a
"prestigious conference" doesn't change the quality of your
program. I believe your PAC12 brethren have aptly proven that. U are a MW team
masquerading as a P5 team in a conference U don't belong in, and other
PAC10 schools will continue to prove that point.
Classic U-PAC... "Really, does it get any better than this? Oh my........a
junior college football player from the west.......and never knew who BYU
was?"I'll tell you what's better... the fact that you
pay more attention to what is happening in the BYU world than 90% of actual BYU
fans (I didn't even watch BYUtv today, and I consider myself a huge fan).
Not only were you watching on media day, you took the time to watch something as
inconsequential as the 50 best plays. You must have been hanging on to every
word from the actual broadcasts about the state of the program. And
while you and your fellow "Ute fans" certainly know who BYU is, let me
attune you to a wake up call--Utah is not at all well known outside the west,
even with their BCS wins. I lived in Miami and routinely talked to others who
had no clue that Utah was even one of the fifty states. If the HS football
players out east and down south think Utah is a city in California, it is not
likely they are watching the Utes play football.
Anyone making fun of Utah.....you have been spanked by Utah for the last 4
years. Need I say more?
@ chris BSad for our program because we strive to be the best among our
peers? Why put down USU because we are a mid level Div I university? Would you
tell Harvard/Yale how sad they don't have dreams of playing for the
national championship? I know for certain USU will not play for a national
championship. I am almost as certain Utah won't either. How about
explaining how Utah will overcome its built in recruiting disadvantage against
the premier PAC 12 schools? Utah will be lucky to be a mid level PAC 12 school,
once in a while. USU strives to be atop the MWC, a very reasonable and
hopefully obtainable goal.
Missouri loves BYU -funny that you use the boyfriend/girlfriend analogy. Think
of it more as Big Brother looking out for Little Brother, and the Big12 is the
girlfriend. We don't want to see you get hurt.Lil Bro:
I'm going to ask out Big12.Big Bro: You already asked her out. She
said no.Lil Bro: That was years ago. Things are different.Big Bro:
She's moved on. She's in a stable relationship now.Lil Bro: She
just doesn't how perfect I am for her.Big Bro: No means no.Lil
Bro: I'm going to flood her Facebook and Twitter with notes about how I
feel.Big Bro: She'll just put you on "ignore".Lil Bro:
You're just mad because you're stuck with PAC12. I can go with
anyone.Big Bro: Except Big12.Lil Bro: I've got it! I'll
have a press conference and announce how prefect we'd be!Big Bro:
That's not going to end well. Ask out Big10.
@Missouri loves BYUYou are one of my favorite people now, for saying
what all of us are thinking. utah still cares a lot about what goes on with BYU,
and have not moved on.If they had moved on, why would they do and
say the following things:-"Typically on byu's media day,
Utah has a big announcement, just to take what little attention byu would get
away from byu." (from Chris B)-"any time we get to increase
the profile of our program and do something that byu doesn't like, its good
with me!" (from Chris B)-"I'm watching BYUtv and they
are airing the BYU top 50 plays." (U-PAC)The first two points
Chris B made are sadly very true of utah's mindset. I don't think BYU
ever tries to butt in to utah's big headlines or increase our
program's profile at your expense. Also, I never watch utah's TV news
or highlights like U-PAC watches BYU's. I watch a couple of their games
every year, and as far as my interest in them goes.
"I wonder what Utah's announcement will be today"This
just in...We got a brand new shipment in today of pac12 stickers for
our cars which is really cool!Go Utes!
@UPac,Michael, Jamall Williams didn't even know who byu was
until he was recruited. He actually thought they were a division II Program.Kinds of hurts their claim that byu is a national brand and well
respected everywhere huh?LOLI've never heard a
single recruit ever say they thought a big time program was division II.I've never heard a single recruit say they thought a power
conference program was division II
tinplater"We(USU) have no dreams of playing in a major
bowl"LOL. How sad for you and your program.Not only
do I have dreams of a future big time bowl game, I have pictures and game stubs
from actual big time bowl games, where Utah smashed the best program in the
country right now. And those pictures are right now to more pictures of another
big time bowl game where Utah won.And you guys don't even have
dreams of doing that?LOL
I don't think either a UTE nor a COUGAR can talk right now. BYU is very good at hyping up their current "band of brothers" and
having every cougar fan drink the kool-aid which makes this BYU fan throw up in
my mouth. Put up or shut up! I will wait to reserve my judgement until I see a
consistent product on the field. Until BYU starts winning games consistently
against the P5 then they can't say they belong.UTE fans having
nothing to boast about either. You took the sloppy seconds from Texas and
Oklahoma due to them saying no to the PAC12. So congrats you got in and after 3
years of getting your lunch handed to you that is all you can say that you are
now apart of a P5 conference. Have fun being the Kentucky of the Pac12. You
may have all of this money however loosing is never fun and believe it or not it
is effecting your program's over all heath. The ONLY thing the
UTEs can say is that they own BYU in football. Which if the currently trends
apply the tides will turn quickly.
Does anyone else get the feeling that some Utah fans are kind of like the ex
boyfriend/girlfriend that says they have moved on but keep driving by your
house, hanging out by your locker, following you around school, and worry
constantly that you will end up talking to someone who is more popular than they
are.... If they have really moved on, they wouldn't care..... Since they
care... They haven't moved on.... Which begs the question... If they are
really as happy as they say they are.... Why haven't they moved on?
Everyone knows that the only answer is that they are not as happy as they say
they are...As if they were really happy... they wouldn't care....
They've certainly set up some expectations for the changes to the 2015
schedule. Will be cool to see what that is.I'm getting pretty
excited for this season, actually. A BCS bowl winner (UCF), four solid teams
with revenge on their minds (UT, BSU, USU, Houston), a bowl team that will give
us their best shot (MTSU), a couple of games of solid regional interest (UNLV,
UNR), two winnable games against Big5 teams (Cal, UVa) and a trip to UConn. Also
looking forward to the visit of Savannah State, with their marching band.Would be awesome to be play a Big 5 schedule, but honestly, independence
has fed that hunger more than playing in the MWC would have.
Steven S JarvisOrem, UTI think BYU's record in bowl games since
Bronco took over being second behind only FSU nationally speaks for itself. BYU
has been great at getting to bowls and winning them more often than not.__________LOL!!!Uhh there is a vast difference
between FSU and BYU when it comes to bowl games. The TV ratings speak for
themselves.The quality of bowl opponents speaks for itself.2nd only
behind FSU, geez, talk about fantasy football.
I think BYU's record in bowl games since Bronco took over being second
behind only FSU nationally speaks for itself. BYU has been great at getting to
bowls and winning them more often than not.I am hoping that this
year and the next BYU plays well enough to force themselves into the national
discussion for the playoffs. Getting there is going to be the next big thing
while these other bowls including the new year bowls, will be an afterthought.
@Daily ObserverChris B. makes it TOO easy. HE is the
biggest promoter for Cougar football in this state constantly bringing up the
program on USU, BYU and Utah boards. He also has created about a dozen or so
accounts just to boost up the message board comment numbers on the Cougars.
Ok, here is a template for the future trash talking:Yada, yada, weak
schedule.Yada, yada, bowl game.LOL.Please use this
for your meaningless back and forth. It will save time so we can just move past
Brave Sir Robin,You do realize virtually every bowl game outside of
the Championship Game is meaningless right? The bowl system was created to keep
people happy and quiet about what a joke College Football is without a playoff,
and to keep the bulk of the money in the BCS conferences. 30+ teams get to win a
bowl game, but only 2 teams got a chance to win a National Title, everyone is
just playing for the #3-#25 spot in the polls.
Chris B somehow thinks mid level non P5 teams are worth less than a P5 team.
What a sad way to look at athletics. Chris, what do you make of a Harvard/Yale
matchup? A nice little entertainment in a nice little Ivy league but
meaningless? Colorado vs Utah ?better ?more important? USU's
goal should be to be competitive at their level of play. So far USU is
succeeding while Utah is not. We have no dreams of playing in a major
bowl…but do have dreams of playing in a mid level bowl with successful
programs of our peers. Chris B dreams Rose Bowl…good luck with that. How
about a winning PAC 12 season for starters? Until something changes Utah will
have a distinct recruiting disadvantage against USC, UCLA, Arizona, Arizona
State, Cal, Stanford, Oregon, Seattle. Only Oregon State, Washington State,
and Colorado appear to me to be equal to the Utes in terms of recruiting
potential. I see Utah becoming the Colorado State of the old WAC
days…perpetual bottom dwellers with one of the worst records in the
country until Lubick came along. Witt is no Lubick.
Once again, Chris B has steered the conversation away on byu's 'big
day.' And once again, cougar fans have swallowed the bait hook, line and
Utah's big announcement??My guess is this: "Utah's focuses
their energy for their bowl game against the WSU Cougars"
These comments have me realizing how good BYU is at getting to bowl games. Can
you guys teach us the finer points of dumbing down a schedule so we can get
eligible for a meaningless bowl game?
Utah is going to be adding an offensive coordinator to their already prolific
offensive coordinating team, that formed like Voltron last year to stunning
results- narrowly missing a shot at a bowl game. Can't wait!!!
@ Chris BUtah may announce a minor coaching change to buy Whit more
time?Perhaps they will announce the new door-mats they are introducing for
the 2014 seasonLOL
@Chris BSince Utah already has games announced with Idaho State, SUU
and just played Weber State. What bigger announcement could Utah make than
Syracuse,Will byu football even be around in 2020? If it is, it
will be on par with Weber state and Utah state. The power 5 will
have completely separated and the only playoffs and bowl games you'll be
eligible for will be the ones division II mid majors like yourself set up.LOL
If I follow the circular logic correctly... BYU's best chance to join the
Big 12 was back during realignment, but BYU decided that independence was the
best way to prove -- years later -- that they deserve to be in the Big 12.The key thing was admitting that independence has no future.The Cougars will be ready to jump if there is another realignment. Key word:
Rich B, how will you know if utah has an announcement? You are too busy on byu
or Utah State boards.Let me help you out...this just
in... utah announces they will languish in the bottom of the pac11.u yet again
as well as going home for the holidays instead of bowling.a related
article... utah announces a new offensive coordinator even before the MWC guy
gets a chance.and finally... utah announces a new head coach,
mascot, and fight song... but decide to stay with the same color... to match
Chris B.I wonder if it will be details of why Cory Butler, the only
4 star commitment Utah previously held for 2015, de-committed and committed to
Kansas? Apparently Kansas was just had more to offer?
"I wonder what Utah's announcement will be today?"How
about "We fully expect to be back to a bowl game in 2020."
Typically on byu's media day, Utah has a big announcement, just to take
what little attention byu would get away from byu. Its not so much we're
competing against byu(we own them on the field) but any time we get to increase
the profile of our program and do something that byu doesn't like, its good
with me!I wonder what Utah's announcement will be today