In 1986 Churches never complained that laws were not being enforced. What's
their position now on children being sent here alone? We reap what we sow.
@Happy Valley HereticOf course they are being used as pawns. Vice President Biden went to the Central and South American countries to
tell their government and the people that Obama's waivers are not for new
arrivals. You can't blame it on fear, it's the promise of
amnesty that draws them here. Their parents should lose custody of the children,
and they should be given to relatives in their own country. This should be
paid for by business that hire and lure people here illegally.
Wow all these I hate children or those kind of children comments by people who
couldn't be bothered to actually read the article."more
than 47,000 unaccompanied children who have entered the country
illegally""Unaccompanied" being the key word here, these
children weren't forced or used as pawns, they mostly came from central
american countries, after walking across all of mexico, by themselves, to flee
countries we've messed up with secret wars and manipulation for big
business.But yeah children fleeing their countries on their own
because of fear should be shown what real fear is by real American's like
the above, perhaps you could volunteer to go beat some sense into those little
Now how in the world did this problem get started?Maybe because Obama has
been creating law out of thin air with the DREAMers.When you hang up a
sign that reads, "Kids Eat Free," you can expect kids to show up.Shame on you politicians for playing with the lives of children for political
John C. C.I wonder if you realize that a good portion of the illegal
drugs, heroin, cocain, meth, ect. that are in this country, come from our
southern border? As long as people can get in, so can the drugs. Drugs that
I'm sure every parent in the country hope their children won't be
turned on to in school. Not just high school, but junion high and even in
elementary schools. That is no "treasure" coming in from the south.
That is destruction. Every bit as much as 911 was. It destroys lives.
We should fly them to the capital city of each home country and leave them at
the airport.Let the sending nations deal with the mess.Our failure
to enforce existing laws has created a real problem this time, eh?
There is no law enforcement in this country. When you advertise for
cheap illegal labor through the promise of amnesty, including staying here as a
worker, this is what you get. Reward the law breakers, punish the honest, and
you'll destroy this country.
We argue about children entering the US illegally when Illegal wars are being
fought, Presidents use EO's to take freedoms away, Government agencies
promote agenda 21, Police becoming enforcers not protectors, Rights now are only
given by governmental policy. Illegals are meant to do 3 things vote for
democrats, to be placed on welfare rolls as the true unemployment figure in this
nation is over 20%, and last but not least to place into this country the very
terrorist element that we the people stay away from. Now you have superior
control by this tyranny.
John C. C.:"They come because our economy needs them."Our economy doesn't need them. We have millions of unemployed Americans
drawing billions in unemployment benefits... payments we can little afford."There's no flood to fear."Twelve Million
illegals here and children by the thousands coming. I'd call that more
than a flood."And when they do come, they DO pay
taxes..."They don't make enough wages to pay income
taxes."...they DO bring lower crime rates to their new
neighborhoods..."True. Three-year-olds rarely commit crimes."...they DO use fewer government services than citizens
do..."These kids need food, housing, diaper changing, etc. How
is that using less government services?"...they DO want to learn
English."They insist on Spanish TV. Comcast now has 12 channels
in Spanish. More to come. "...and they improve the economy
wherever they move--including a rise in wages for almost every category of
worker."What they bring is lower wages, with the influx of
millions into our labor pool. Of course, Obama has a plan to correct this...
require higher minimum wages... which of course will negatively impact our
Finally, DN is covering this story which has been all over FOX networks for
weeks. This influx of illegals must stop. The present administration
is flooding the system with crisis after crisis. Has anyone noticed?
Aggie238:"My, my, the Christian charity being manifest on this thread
is staggering! Not. It's sure easy to say things like 'Sorry, kids. No
sympathy here.' when it's not your child, isn't it?"So, who is it that puts these kids in the hands of coyotes that brings them to
our borders. It's the kids' parents, that's who. There's
the people with no sympathy."It's not like a thinking
person can actually hold them responsible for our problems with immigration or
the violence and extreme poverty in their own country..."Violence and extreme poverty in their country of origin is mostly a myth. And
what about the extreme poverty in this country? We don't have the money to
feed and house the hundreds of thousands of illegals (mostly children) that are
coming here. We are in debt to the tune of $17+ trillion. I'd bet that
the countries sending their kids here to be fed and housed have far less
national debt than we do."Give me your tired, your
poor..."Those words were penned by the French. Perhaps the
French would like to take them.
Send them back.Put them on a plane such as Air Force One and send
them back to the country of origin and let those countries feed, diaper, and
tend them. It would cost far less to send them back than to keep them here. And
it would stop the influx once the word got out that all they got for their
troubles was a ride on a plane..
@John C. C.In 2008 we had 20% of our population looking for full
time work, we still have 12% (u-6). There is a surplus of labor that has drove
our low and middle income down. It's not free trade when
business commits felonies by hiring people here illegally, replacing Americans
with cheap illegal foreign labor in the service, construction and hospitality
markets. It's dishonest, always has been, always will. The do
pay taxes, but get it all back and more on earned income credit. 4.2 billion to
be exact. They use $3 in services for every dollar they contribute. The American
taxpayer is subsidizing cheap illegal labor for business. With 12
million people here illegally, and parents sending their children here along for
Obamas waivers, we need enforcement. Not another immigration reform promise,
that gives amnesty, including allowing people to stay, with enforcement
provisions that are never enforced. Who's to blame for these
children? I think we know it's the pro-illegal people that are trying to
con the American public, using little children. Shame on them.
We shouldn't fear having much larger immigration quotas in the first place.
They come because our economy needs them. During the recession beginning in
2008 we actually had more foreign residents returning home than coming here.
It's supply and demand. True economic free-trade conservatives should
understand that.There's no flood to fear. And when they do
come, they DO pay taxes, they DO bring lower crime rates to their new
neighborhoods, they DO use fewer government services than citizens do, they DO
want to learn English. and they improve the economy wherever they
move--including a rise in wages for almost every category of worker. They are a treasure. Let's make it possible for more of them to come
legally with their parents
We can't let them stay here, that would be separating families. The only
way to stop this from continuing is to return them. Obama's
waivers show us how letting people stay and work is not a solution, it just adds
to the problem.
The dishonesty over lack of immigration enforcement is out of hand. What's
going to happen to the hundreds of thousands of children sent here by
themselves? The article calls them immigrants, but they are not. An immigrant
comes here legally. Surely they are not planning on giving them amnesty, and
triggering another wave? The deferred adult program is nothing but a
back door for the family, just like the parents sending their children here, on
the hope they can sponsor their parents in the future. Those wanting
amnesty, even if it's just staying here and working are responsible here.
They have encouraged the law breaking by rewarding them for their actions. And
this is the result of their actions, more people dying in the desert, more
separated families.The plaque on Ellis Island welcomed legal
immigrants. Amnesty begets amnesty, more pain and suffering will follow if we
don't put our foot down on those hiring people here illegally. They should
pay all deportation costs.
Again, I'm not saying that the immigration system does not need to be
completely re-worked. In fact, it's probably the whole reason that some of
these kids came here in this manner, and that needs to change. What I am saying
is that some of the posters on here had better hope that karma isn't a real
thing. As illegal and dangerous as this practice may be, it's still better
than the alternative for many of these children, so you can't seriously
blame them or their parents.I'd propose opening immigration to
as many people as can demonstrate that they don't have any major criminal
history and are willing to contribute. Who cares if they don't speak
English? Increasing our population is a great thing for the economy.
There's absolutely no need to make it an expensive, multi-year process for
people to get here. That's OUR problem, and as long as it continues to be
our problem, then we are going to have this kind of situation, and we can hardly
blame the people who want to come here for doing so in whatever way they can
@ Liberal Ted:Though they sound good, your ideas won't work for
a couple of reasons. The first is that many of those coming illegally don't
have any income. They just come here to live with relatives and take advantage
of all of our freebies which don't depend on being legal citizens. Secondly, those who do work often work for cash under the table, meaning
that it then goes as unreported income. That way, they don't have to pay
taxes and they also remain eligible for additional freebies. Another
issue is that many still live in the shadows, which means they aren't kept
track of and so they aren't subject to the regulations you're
suggesting. Otherwise, your ideas would have some merit.
And I should have added that the first and easiest thing Obama could do is put
out a public announcement to the world that the idea that one can come to
America for nothing is not true, and that any people coming here should not
expect to get entrance or be allowed to stay. After all it was his statements
and policies that have led many in these countries to come here in the first
place. So, I guess the truth is, Obama wants this to be happening, otherwise he
could stop it with a word, since he started it with one.
We could solve immigration very simply. By doing what the feds are best at.
Regulating and Taxing. Give these illegals soo many regulations that their
mother country sounds like heaven, and then tax them. Tax them on their income,
give them a transaction fee by percentage on the money wired home. If nothing
else, we'll have more money:)
@ Aggie238...The kids and their parents are counting on sympathy
just like yours to allow them to cut in line ahead of all those people who are
currently going through the time-consuming legal system of immigrating.Once these kids get their sympathy break, that is supposed to open the door
for their relatives to eventually follow them... another unintended and misused
hole in our system. These illegal aliens understand our immigration system and
it's weaknesses better than most Americans do. There is also a
sizable number of pregnant women in this group who are counting on having their
babies in the U.S.. Then their kids will automatically be citizens per the
misused anchor baby law. Those citizen children create a means for their parents
to stay here... supposedly legally. The South American media and
churches are spreading the news that now is the time to come to the USA, since
once you get a foot on American soil, you won't be sent back as a minor.
Then relatives can then be sent for in order to "keep families
together". They know we won't make that happen in their native lands.
It's like magic.
@Aggie238" It's sure easy to say things like "Sorry,
kids. No sympathy here." when it's not your child, isn't
it?"Yes it is, especially because I'm not the kind of
parent who would ask my kid to do something so highly illegal as violating
another country's sovereignty as described by international law. Maybe you
need to get off the computer and ask these kids' parents what they were
thinking when they forced their children to do something so illegal and
WHY NOT suspend all commercial flights leaving the U.S. and landing in Mexico
until Mexico gets the message they can't dump their unwanted residents
here?American tourists are BIG business to Mexico. It might make
them take action.
Some will say that Obama and the Democrats do not want this. A case can be
made, because this scandle on the border has pretty well written off any public
yearning for immigration reform. At least if it does not address border
security first. On the other hand, it would be very easy for the President to
stop this influx of illegals. Merely call up the President of Mexico and lay
down the law. Tell him that if he does not send his military to his northern
border, we the U.S. will not be sending any visitors south of our southern
border and we will do a border crackdown to ensure that any people trying to
cross will be stopped and or immediately sent back. If Mexico will not
cooperate with us, we will economically punish them by stopping any country to
country bank transactions, and make it off limits to Americans like we do with
Cuba. A few minutes of that would set the Mexicans mind right. Then they would
have to enforce their borders and stop this tidal wave coming north.
First of all, they are stationed in former military barracks, not jail cells as
some are saying.It's not difficult to discern which commenters
are Rule of Law conservatives and which are bleeding heart liberals. Like DN Subscriber said, these youth are being used as pawns. However, that
should not be grounds to give them all a free pass. Their whole idea is to be
given a free pass, then send for their parents to join them afterwards. It
continues on and on with illegals searching for any and every loophole to take
advantage of America's overly generous and unsecured border system. Almost all these youth are uneducated, unskilled and speak no English.
So they will soon be on the welfare rolls at the expense of American taxpayers.
We're already overly debt ridden.There are over 2 billion youth
in the world who live in impoverished conditions and who would love to live in
the USA. But that doesn't mean we should or could take them all in. We
simply can't. Get word back to South America media that these
youth's situation isn't ideal. Maybe that will slow the illegal alien
@DN Subscriber" intolerable lack of enforcement of our immigration
laws "By the enforcement agents that one might note rounded up
the kids mentioned in this article?
Aggie238, if their parents didn't drag them across an international border,
they wouldn't be in this mess. Who endangers their children by doing such
things? The parents are at fault, more than anyone, and the kids should return
with the folks, not get a free pass to stay in our country. NO OTHER COUNTRY ON
EARTH allows this, most throw the kids in prisons far worse than this detention
facility we are using!
My, my, the Christian charity being manifest on this thread is staggering! Not.
It's sure easy to say things like "Sorry, kids. No sympathy here."
when it's not your child, isn't it?That's not to say
that our border security and immigration policy are not in dire need of a
re-work, but these are kids, for crying out loud. It's not like a thinking
person can actually hold them responsible for our problems with immigration or
the violence and extreme poverty in their own country which forced them to flee
in search of a better shot at life. But, I suppose, they will inevitably turn
out to be evil Democrats, and therefore the old adage of "nits make
lice" still holds true in some minds. I can't seem to remember where I
have heard of that saying before... "Give me your tired, your
poor,Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,The wretched
refuse of your teeming shore.Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to
me,I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
Sorry, kids. No sympathy here.You should not have been allowed to
cross the border at all. If you got across, you should have been herded back
across again, immediately.These kids are to be pitied, for they are
pawns being used to infiltrate our country by taking advantage of the
intolerable lack of enforcement of our immigration laws by the politicized Obama
Justice Department and Homeland Security.The fact that they are able
to repeat the false statement "I am fleeing gang violence in my country"
to win asylum changes nothing. It is a lie, and rather than rewarding
lawbreakers, they must be punished, and returned home. Millions of
unregistered Democrat voters are not welcome when they come here this way,
regardless of what Obama has been signalling. Legal immigrants are welcome, and
millions come here that way, disproving the lie that it is too hard to follow
the law.Either we have the rule of law, or we do not. Having kids
in crowded jails may horrify some, but the specter of the collapse of the rule
of law is even more horrifying to every American.
This would not be a problem if after being reunited with family members in the
US they were deported along with their family members. The other solution
would be to reunite them with family members in their native country and
subtract the costs from the foreign aid sent to that country. We need to
prosecute and fine those who hire illegal aliens and repatriate all illegal
aliens as soon as they are apprehended while subtracting the costs incurred from
their natives country's foreign aid.