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Published: Monday, June 16 2014 5:42 p.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, June 16 2014 5:42 p.m. MDT

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worf
Mcallen, TX

No boots on the ground?

boneheaded, but not a smidgen
SLC, UT

that ought to solve this crisis....does that mean that they'll hover over Iraq as opposed to boots on the ground? sounds like his mentor, kennedy and Vietnam.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

So Obama makes a move to provide more security for an embassy, and gets criticized. I thought people wanted the prevention of another Benghazi if things were to go south?

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Where is Sean Penn? Where are the Dixie Chicks? Where is Cindy Sheehan? Sorry liberals, you just lost your right to criticize GWB without being a hypocrite!

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

We did our best in Iraq and it was relatively stable and peaceful when U.S. forces left. We can be proud of that.

Now, we see Shia fighting Sunni Muslims, something that has been going on in that region for hundreds, if not a thousand years. Short of a U.S. occupation and physically dividing the warring sects, there is no way that we are going to solve that, especially within a few years or decades.

Pleas to "all just get along" or "renounce sectarian violence" or "negotiate" are the marks of naive amateurs who just do not understand history, the culture, or the enmity towards each other, and even more so towards any Infidels.

Time to leave, let them kill each other and then make friends with the winners.

Meanwhile, we need to (hopefully) stand fast with our commitments to our long time ally, Israel. If we fail to do that, then the Muslim caliphate surely extend all across the middle east, across North Africa, and knock on the walls of Spain and Vienna again. And, spread American blood in our homeland, in the name of Jihad.

intervention
slc, UT

mountain man is right after all how could we liberals not have come out against this in the first ten minutes? How could we also not see that a fairly elected government asking for our assistance to protect it from the mess we made is not exactly the same as attacking a sovereign nation based on false information?

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"President Barack Obama notified Congress Monday that up to 275 troops could be sent to Iraq to provide support and security for U.S. personnel and the American Embassy in Baghdad."

Hey Worf and Mountanman -

I find it interesting how strongly opposed you two are to protecting our embassies.

But then again, both of you were dead set against rescuing our POW in Afghanistan so I do see some consistency there.

Apparently the lives of American military members and the diplomatic corps aren't important to some people.

I'm glad the Obama administration is responsible and patriotic enough to think otherwise.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Schnee;

It's the flip flopping.

A few days ago he said no boots on the ground, and now flips.

Very indecisive.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Mr. Obama could not negotiate a treaty to keep US forces in Iraq. That was the end of our involvement, Keep it that way. Bring on the drones, but no more US boots on Iraqi soil.

casual observer
Salt Lake City, UT

Gary, Considering Benghazi, Mr. Obama is not too interested in protecting the US foreign service either.

WhatMadeTheRedManRed?
Woods Cross, UT

UDL SE Asia- Why don't y'all quit bickering amongst yourselves and pray/meditate/think pensively that this operation to whithdraw Americans/Other Country Nationals and Ex Pats living in Iraq goes smoothly and without incident?.... Additionally, Utah's own sons and daughters are right there watching,waiting, hopipng not to be drawn into this mess. So until your or your loved one's are involved, why don't you exercise your right to remain silent and and just hope for a 100% safe and successful mission. In closing I'd just like to say that I love my beautiful home state of Utah and will readily defend Utah on her own soil or abroad. There is a time and place for such debate but now is not that time. Now is the time to send out prayers/ positive vibes. Think about that this week.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Worf -

It's not flip-flopping when a President makes decisions dealing with a rapid developing situation.

As situations change, the way to deal with those situations should change as necessary.

Your complaint is silly.

If a football coach calls for a passing play on first down, that doesn't mean he is committed to always calling the same play, does it?

Casual Observer -

"Mr. Obama is not too interested in protecting the US foreign service either."

WRONG. Obama is extremely interested.

On the same day of the Benghazi incident, several American embassies were experiencing protests due to that anti-muslim video.

Right now though, only the embassies in Baghdad is under threat.

Obama has the ability to learn from his mistakes, unlike "Conservatives" who simply deny their mistakes. And Obama realizes that being a little more careful than necessary is better than not being careful enough, when it comes to protecting embassies.

JWB
Kaysville, UT

As a military person in the Army and Air Force from the Vietnam "conflict" to the first Gulf war, when a President and nation do not have policy rules and governance of their own people with integrity and backbone, our adversaries know they can gain ground with the media.

Our Presidential executive DoD and State Department policies or lack of policies for 5 years have been showing weakness to our enemies of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, worldwide.

There are no military and Department of State plans in place to deal with Presidential executive orders that surface when a need arises. The Secretary of Defense lacks leadership of the politically appointed Generals trying to placate their troops without real guidance.

It is frustrating to have the tail wag the dog when your life is at risk for day to day changes in how you are to perform your duties. Field commanders of even a battalion size group have got to be weary of their capability without guidance and a backup plan. Boots on the ground is a big difference from flying drones from Texas over targets in Iraq.

Brio
Alpine, UT

@ GaryO:

I and most others agree with you that this is a rapidly developing situation. So why is the president out attending LGBT social events and democratic fund-raisers today, instead of staying actively involved with this major issue in the White House and directly involved with his military advisors? Makes no sense.

He certainly gives the impression to the world that he doesn't care all that much.

Go back and read Obama's previous statements on this issue, made in definitive terms and you'll understand why he is now appearing to be a flip-flopper to most people.

It's not your job to defend his actions no matter what. It's only going to end up making you look sillier and sillier as this situation escalates and Obama's actions become harder to understand and thus to defend.

Copacetic
Logan, UT

GaryO...

You're making progress. This is the first time you've admitted that Obama has been making mistakes. That's something you adamantly denied not so long ago. It used to be only Republicans and Conservatives in your book.

Baby steps.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Copacetic -

Sure, Obama is capable of making mistakes. Not many us are perfect. Even I make a typo every now and then.

Brio -

"So why is the president out attending LGBT social events and democratic fund-raisers today?"

Why not? It's all part of the job. The President is a multi-tasker. You know how it is? You do the necessary due diligence, save the world, and move on.

JWB -

"Our Presidential executive DoD and State Department policies or lack of policies for 5 years have been showing weakness to our enemies of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, worldwide."

Obama inherited a mess, and he's doing about as much as can be realistically expected to make it work. You can't turn a sow's ear into a silk purse, and you sometimes can't turn the results of
Republican policies into into a favorable reality.

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