Published: Wednesday, June 11 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT
Here is a novel idea:Lets follow a "pay as your promised"
path.I asked for student loans and I am committed to doing as I
promised. The taxpayers didn't request that I take out students loans and
they certainly didn't force them upon me. I personally asked for them and
signed my name promising to fulfill my end of the agreement. Ya, its
the more difficult route. I agree it would be easier to take the "blame
someone else" approach and force the taxpayer to pay for my shortcomings,
but integrity is more important to me.I don't go out to eatI don't go to the moviesI don't go party with friends if it
costs moneyI eat spaghetti, oatmeal, and Peanut Butter and jelly
sandwiches daily.I don't have cableMy clothes are oldBut to me, doing what I promised is important.But not to everyone,
This is the reason why Republicans lose votes. This bill hurts no one, it helps
those who are trying to help themselves by gaining an education.When
I graduated from college I was stuck with a 7.5% interest rate purely because of
the timing of when I graduated. My siblings who graduated a year or two before
me ended up with a 2% or 3% interest rate. I have been paying on those loans for
nearly ten years now and have never missed a payment. It makes no sense to me
that I am unable to refinance my loan for a more advantageous interest rate,
while homeowners and others are - where is the logic in that?And as
far as Chris B's comment goes - the sponsors of the bill never suggested
that the loan holders not meet their obligations, they're just trying to
help them out. I think your reaction is a knee-jerk because the sponsors of the
bill are Democrats, and that is simply asinine.
M_Hughes_Did you sign a note promising to pay at the rate
offered?I suspect you did, otherwise you would not have received the
funds.It makes no sense, now or ever, for rates on unsecured student
loans to be the same or lower than those on residential mortgages. At least with
the mortgage their is collateral, so the lender has some recourse should the
anybody should be able to refinace anything, any time so they can make it it
easier in the world . chris b. is a fan of the banks and the other utra rich
repulicans that would take every last dime from every last american to fatten
their wallets and their stock holders and yet they also support pay day loan
places that charge more interest than the moffia does and they made it leagal.
over 500 % and counting. over 20% was illegal when i was a child.
Democrats are proposing to allow students to refinance at current, lower
interest rates. Republicans say "no" the students have to keep their
higher interest rates because that is the agreement they originally made. Who would be affected by the passage of this bill? Lenders would
collect less interest. Student borrowers would save some money.Lenders make a lot of money (just look at who builds those tall skyscraper
buildings in cities--banks and lenders). The cost of higher
education has escalated beyond inflation for years.Why couldn't
Republicans swallow their pride, embrace a Democrat proposal, and vote to help
students who are trying to get a good education, position themselves for good
jobs, but have to go into debt to achieve their educational goals?Instead, Republicans are feeding the stereotype that they only care for the
To "M_Hughes" they didn't suggest that you should default on your
loans, but that is what will happen.Imagine that you go to a private
university and rack up $100,000 in student loans while getting a sociology
degree. The proposed law would limit your payments to 10% of your salary. The
current law says that after 20 years the government will stop collecting and you
don't have to pay any more. Over 20 years even if your salary averages
$50,000, you will only repay the principle, you won't even touch the
interest on your loans. It gets worse if you consider people going to even
higher priced schools with degrees with lower earning potential.To
"David" part of the reason why education is so expensive is because
money is so easy to get. The schools charge more because the government makes
it so easy to get money from them. The schools are the ones that push college
students into getting loans and grants.
oops, "there is collateral" not "their is..." sorryDavid,private lenders are forbidden to make government guaranteed
student loans - only the government (taxpayers) can do that now. the government
(taxpayers) pay interest on the funds it borrows, and the interest charged on
student debt should be enough to cover the interest expense of the funds the
government borrows PLUS the principal on defaulted loans. BO's plan
ignores those basic economic principles.But what do economic
principles matter when you are engaged in typical dem vote buying?For existing loans, banks have their costs of funds to consider - if they
match funded those loans, their matched funds were likely higher, and they are
still paying those higher costs of funds for that portfolio. Do you really want
banks paying 4 or 5% on the funds they are lending out at 3%? If all banks did
that, they would start failing aginm with a devastating effect on the economy.
Banks are NOT the bad guys.
Everybody can refinance their houses, cars and business loans. Why not student
loans? It's like republicans are TRYING to dumb down America by
making it harder to finance an education investment. They attack education at
every chance so why would I believe otherwise? Yet all their own
kids go to good colleges and none go to welding school. mmmm.
As "lost in DC" points out; the devil is in the details.Taxpayers could/would be on the hook for the bills if the students income
doesn't grow sufficiently.
Hughes,Their obligation is to do what they promisedBarack is changing the terms of what they promised to do That, by
definition, is not doing what they promised.
The main reason why tuition has gone up is not because money is easy, but
because the right has seriously cut the amount that state universities
contribute. America has abandoned education, instead of seeing it as a public
good, it has become something for hedge funds to drool over. We are on a path
Maybe I am missing something here. What do we "lose" by allowing
students or more appropriately post-studies students that refinance to lower
rates. The balances that are owed don't change do they? The amount of
principle that we are supposed to get back remains the same. The money that
would have been spent as interest that would have been freed up would get spent
on something else which would boost the economy.As a life-long
Republican voter, I am left scratching my head. Maybe this is one where the
details of all of the other "shaving cream" in the bill needs to be
understood. I am hoping that is the case. If you are better able to
make the payments on any loan and don't default seems like a win for
everyone involved, including all of the rest of America that is by default
backing up those loans.
Home Owners are allowed to refinance their mortgages.Businesses
regularly refinance their debt to take advantage of lower rates.Our
on congress authorized the refinance of US debt through by back our own bonds...
and reissue of new debt at lower rates.But student loan debt... no.
Why is that again? If you are able to make it so people can afford to refinance
their debt, if it is a good thing for mortgage loans, for business debt, even
home equity loans, why not student debt which is often as large as a mortgage.
You can even refinance your car loan...... just not a student loan.Go figure.
College students and fellow grads, I have some advice for you...Don't you dare forget this come November. They repubs are banking that
you will. They're banking on you to vote against your own interests. Time
to rise up. Time to hold these greedy and selfish men accountable. It's
time for college grads and students to vote out every single republican. Vote
them all out. Vote democrat. And keep voting democrat until the GOP figures it
out.There's literally no reason why any middle class worker,
woman, minority, or college student should vote for a republican in November.
@ M_Hughes, Saying that a bill would hurt no one, when the Bill will
require $ from the federal gov't to pay for it is very troubling. If the
gov't has to chip in some $ to make the bill work, this is money it has to
get from somewhere. I'm not saying anything about whether the bill is good
or bad. But your argument certainly is not convincing and even untruthful.
when are people going to figure out that republicans will suck money from
everyone in order to give more tax breaks to their corporate masters who,in
turn,lay off these "legislators"
Republicans blocked a Senate vote? Republicans do not control the Senate and
therefore can not block any vote, at least until November! Obviously some
Democrats had to vote against it also so to say Republicans blocked it is
disingenuous to say the least! Perhaps there are at least some Senate Democrats
who think people should be responsible for THEMSELVES instead of taxpayers
always paying the tab! Perhaps there is a glimmer of hope for Democrats after
I don't see why students should not be able to refinance for lower rates,
just like homeowners do. It's not about the cost of education, that's
in the past. It's about lowering out of pocket costs so that people can
have a better quality of life. The GOP is showing its true colors here. Folks,
it's not about you for the Republicans. It's about serving the money
class. Folks are forced to pay higher than market rates (Check the prime rate
and other interest rate indicators). Student loans can't be discharged in
bankruptcy. We spend trillions in Iraq and Afghanistan, yet the GOP won't
throw a bone to U.S. citizens trying to get by. There really is no excuse for
this. Those of you with knee-jerk defenses of the Senate Republicans, please
come off the ledge and think it through.@ Mountanman, dude, take a
few minutes and learn about the issue of the filibuster and cloture.
Esquire, Take a minute and learn about the nuclear option Reid and the Senate
Democrats passed recently eliminating the filibuster! Filibusters are a thing of
the past, thanks to Democrats!
The reason we are losing pre-eminence in the world is because of Education. We
are simply paying more for less.If rates are high it will discourage
those who could not otherwise go to school from attending. Without attending
college, they have little chance to better their standing in life, and thus the
cycle of poverty continues. The rich get richer, and those that cannot afford
to move forward stay stuck...if they are lucky, otherwise their situation
worsens. Costs go up, but wages remain stagnant.We need to lower
the barriers for education, not find ways to continue to kick the less fortunate
while they are still down.
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