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Published: Tuesday, June 10 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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one old man
Ogden, UT

And, according to radio news reports, the Millers were apparently "legal" in possession of their arsenal.

When will we finally wake up and start to fight the idiocy of the NRA?

Flashback
Kearns, UT

The NRA isn't the problem here. Crazy folks are. I'm sure that the NRA decries the use of firearms in this manner.

wingnutty
Casa Grande, AZ

They draped the cops they killed in "don't tread on me" flags. That makes them domestic terrorists.

Which means we should be hunting down and investigating everyone they talked to and associated with.

Objectified
Richfield, UT

@ one old man:

One thing you and other liberals still don't understand is that there are currently over 300,000,000 privately owned guns in the USA alone. Even if the NRA was to suddenly cease to exist and buying guns legally became more difficult because of government restrictions, a huge black market would exist for many decades... or longer. Anyone with cash would still be able to obtain guns. As such, tragedies such as this one would still happen.

Just as drunk drivers (and not their cars) are responsible for killing people, crazed people, such as this couple, (and not their guns) are the real killers in this tragedy.

In that same light, do you actually want to shut down car clubs just because drunk drivers kill people with their cars? That is the same logic you are using in wanting to ban the NRA because a minuscule number of gun-owners use their guns in a wrongful manner. Think about it.

With a third of a billion people in the USA (and growing), there will always be a few crazy people doing terrible things. It's inevitable. Adding more laws won't change that.

Copacetic
Logan, UT

@ One old man...

It's truly not the idiocy of the NRA we need to wake up to.
It's the idiocy of the left wing extremists who are bent on taking away Americans' Constitutionally guaranteed rights that we need to wake up to.

Based on what has happened in other more liberal countries who have instituted stricter gun laws, what you are alluding to would undoubtedly makes matters worse. Crime rates would go up. That's what happens when only criminals obtain and use guns.

What you and like-minded people keep forgetting is that criminals don't pay any attention to things such as additional gun laws. In fact, they are in favor of them. They know it usually makes their intended victims more defenseless.

How else would you explain cities such as Chicago and New York City, who have some the strictest gun control laws in the country, yet at the same time have some of the highest crime rates in the country?

Criminals are less apt to attack people who are more apt to being able to defend themselves. It's not rocket science. It's called the common sense of human nature.

SAS
Sandy, UT

@Objectified:

Yes, people kill people with cars. But, last I checked, we're required to have licences to drive cars. We're required to register our cars with the state, and display that registration in a conspicuous and visible manner on the bumper. And we're required to carry insurance against the liabilities we might incur from irresponsible use of our cars.

Funny how any attempt to impose similar regulations on firearms is going to be the death knell for liberty in this country.

The NRA will--after the fact--agree that mentally unstable people like these shouldn't have guns. But they remain against even the most basic measures to keep guns out of their hands.

And isn't it amazing that the US is the only country that seems to have these problems?

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

The real weapon of choice here is "PROPAGANDA". The constant negative messages from FOX News, Sarah Palin, NRA, Carol Rove, Tea Party, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Shawn Hannity, Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Cliven Bundy and the list just goes on and on. They constantly disagree with every aspect of the government and they pound their messages of fear as if schooled directly from the hand book of Dr. Joseph Goebbels. Their messages are all the same "We have to take back the government at all costs." "The nation is in peril until we can take it back." "We need a revolution to save this country." "You can take this gun from my dead hands." "The Revolution has begun." "Locked and Loaded." They wear guns and wave guns at their meetings not as a Constitutional right but as a threat to those who appose them. If you do not agree with them then you are the enemy!

The Vegas shooting by the Millers is proof of effective propaganda.

LOU Montana
Pueblo, CO

The real weapon of choice here is "PROPAGANDA". The constant negative messages from FOX News, Sarah Palin, NRA, Carol Rove, Tea Party, Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Rush Limbaugh, Ann Coulter, Shawn Hannity, Dick Cheney, Mitch McConnell, Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Cliven Bundy and the list just goes on and on. They constantly disagree with every aspect of the government and they pound their messages of fear as if schooled directly from the hand book of Dr. Joseph Goebbels. Their messages are all the same "We have to take back the government at all costs." "The nation is in peril until we can take it back." "We need a revolution to save this country." "You can take this gun from my dead hands." "The Revolution has begun." "Locked and Loaded." They wear guns and wave guns at their meetings not as a Constitutional right but as a threat to those who appose them. If you do not agree with them then you are the enemy!

The Vegas shooting by the Millers is proof of how effective the propaganda is.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Flashback -

"The NRA isn't the problem here. Crazy folks are."

Yes, that's true.

And why is it that Right Wing Ideology attracts "crazy folks" like road kill attracts flies?

. . . Any ideas?

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