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Published: Friday, June 6 2014 12:00 p.m. MDT

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morpunkt
Glendora, CA

This is merely a circling of the wagons by the former BCS teams. No surprise here folks. Just follow the Big Cash System.

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

This is clearly a game changer. Sadly, it will benefit only the top dozen or so teams with the budget and the focus on winning at all costs, regardless of ethics. The average teams in the Big 5 conglomerate will see their success ratios drop. NCAA sports will be dominated by you-know-who.

I agree with the Boise State guy. This should not be allowed. And I'm a Washington grad. Already the cash disparity is obvious: look at Oregon the last 10 years. OSU can't compete with them and UW hasn't beaten them in 10 years. No way WSU, OSU, Utah, even UCLA and Cal, can compete with USC, Oregon (Nike money) and Stanford. Recruiting will become a bidding war for top players. The players will be semi-pros. You like what one-and-done has done to college hoops? Then you'll love this new Big5 semi-pro league.

Michael Romney
Salt Lake, UT

This is how it should be. And lets make it clear there are 65 teams currently in the Big conferneces including Notre Dame. Most sports pundits believe there will be 4 superconferneces of 16 teams each, although it looks like 1 conference may end up with 17. But how many spaces does that leave for current mid-majors?

None! Cheers to everyone included and mid-majors who will never be included

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I've been saying this was coming for a long time, and its a welcome change!

The big boy conferences are moving on and we'll create a new division where only big boys have access and only big boys will play in the big bowl games and the playoffs.

If mid majors want to set up their own playoffs or their own new bowls that fine we don't care, but they wont be allowed into our.

And the notion of lawsuits keeping byu relevant and with access to the big boy playoffs..LOL!

Ya, and Wyoming and Utah State can probably sue and demand access to the pac 12 or SEC championship.

byu and Utah state have no more chance at a seat with the big boys than Wyoming does of a shot in the SEC!

Proud Ute
Proud Pac 12 member
Proud Division IV(or whatever we'll call it) member

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

So many great points in this quote from ESPN article about bronco trying to get accepted into the Big 12:

"BYU suddenly has plenty of motivation to join a conference. The ACC and SEC excluded BYU from their power five non-conference scheduling mandate, which could make it difficult for the independent Cougars to fill out their football schedule. Also, if the power five conferences (ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, Pac-12, SEC) gain autonomy from the NCAA, BYU could get even further left behind."

LOL!

Yep, byu's getting left in the dust. And its been a joy and will continue to be a joy to watch and comment on

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

One last quote from the article about bronco wishing the big 12 would call:

"The American-Statesman, however, cited two sources that the idea of adding BYU has little support among Big 12 officials"

LOL

Even though the Big 12 wants a title game, they'd rather not have a title game if they'd have to invite byu to get one.

That's how little they think of byu.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

"spend the billions they make from television deals and other revenue streams more freely on athletes, including increasing the value of a scholarship to include costs beyond tuition and room and board."

That would be running straight into Title IX issues.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

The P5 need to make this a clean break and form a new Division. The idea of co-existing under the same "tent" with the current mid-majors will only enhance the angst already brewing. Cut the strings and require P5 programs to schedule P5 programs in football only. The mid-majors have their own division.

Leave the format for basketball and all other sports as currently established.

estreetshuffle
Window Rock, AZ

That would be great because all the Utah Universities are boring. They choke when it counts in big games against the big boys.

81Ute
Central, UT

@schnee

This isn't just about football and basketball. All mens and womens sports. No Title IX issues at all.

Ball junky
Bountiful, UT

Chris B: The big boy conferences are moving on and we'll create a new division where only big boys have access and only big boys will play in the big bowl games and the playoffs.

Hang on tight, they might dump your utes because of location and being weak. Then will you like the idea?

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

@Chris B

You're dreaming the good dream. Sadly, Utah will never keep up and U won't even qualify for the lower tier PAC-12 bowls. Utah will be a constant doormat because they will never get the athletes USC, Oregon, and Stanford will get. Pay the players? Yeah, Utah will be able to do that. Not! Neither will half the teams in the PAC-12.

This move will only benefit certain teams with a lot of money. Utah is not one of them.

But dream on, dude. Dream on.

LoveTheKittens
Central, UT

@Ball junky

When was the last time a school was kicked out of a 'big boy' conference? Temple, then who and when?

never break .500
Los Angeles, CA

any idea when the Utes will break the top 25 again in football? answer: never …and if they did, the following week, they'd be out with an ugly loss. Two good years does not a program make. Consistency, wins, bowl games, major athlete awards, the ease of watching games all around the world…all factor into that…oh, and get a DIV 1 stadium. That little 45,000 model looks cute, but….really? Looks like JuCo to visiting teams.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

BlueHusky
Mission Viejo, CA

"Utah will never keep up and U won't even qualify for the lower tier PAC-12 bowls. Utah will be a constant doormat because they will never get the athletes USC, Oregon, and Stanford will get. Pay the players? Yeah, Utah will be able to do that. Not! Neither will half the teams in the PAC-12."

Never? Won't? Constant?

Hmmmmmm...do you always speak in absolutes?

Utah will forge it's own path in the P-5, you don't need to fret over it. The one certainty that you can count on is...

Utah IN...byu OUT.

MyPerspective
Salt Lake City, UT

never break .500
Los Angeles, CA

"Two good years does not a program make. Consistency, wins, bowl games, major athlete awards, the ease of watching games all around the world…all factor into that…oh, and get a DIV 1 stadium."

I'm guessing that your comment is in reference to what byu has done? If so, maybe you should explain why byu is relegated to the mid-major division. If your comment is not in reference to byu, please explain where your criteria comes from because it's easy to cherry pick.

For example, I can say...a Div IV program is earned by playing and winning two BCS games, being a leading research university, having robust academic programs through the PhD level, and having a world class medical school.

That's what Division IV is all about and it's great to belong!

There...see how easy that is?

Go Utes
Go Pac-12

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@MyPerspective

"For example, I can say...a Div IV program is earned by playing and winning two BCS games, being a leading research university, having robust academic programs through the PhD level, and having a world class medical school."

Not to mention that Utah doesn't have any of those pesky academic freedom issues that certain other universities do.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

Some of you seem pretty confident that Utah will never amount to anything based on a 3 year sample size where Utah has played around 5 conference games with their game 1 starting QB healthy.

10CC
Bountiful, UT

Utah is 9-18 in the PAC since joining.

TCU is 6-12 in conference since joining the Big-12.

Both Utah & TCU had really good success vs BYU since 2008.

Moral of the story: The PAC and the Big-12 are big boy conferences, and it's taking Utah and TCU time to acclimate to the elevated level of competition. For these reasons - and many more - the creation of another division is justified.

Uteology
East Salt Lake City, Utah

@BlueHusky

Utah will be a constant doormat because they will never get the athletes USC, Oregon, and Stanford will get. Pay the players? Yeah, Utah will be able to do that. Not! Neither will half the teams in the PAC-12.

This move will only benefit certain teams with a lot of money. Utah is not one of them.

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Then can you cite a source where any of those PAC-12 teams are against P5 autonomy? All I've read so far is teams like Boise State, UCF coming out against it. But I don't know of a single P5 team coming out against this proposal.

If this was as bad as you claim for teams like Utah, TCU, Oregon State, Kansas State, Virgina, Arkansas, Northwestern, etc. then I would think someone from those programs would have spoken up.

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