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Published: Thursday, June 5 2014 9:59 a.m. MDT

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Brio
Alpine, UT

I've noticed that President Obama never apologizes for any of his personal debacles. He has a habit of rationalizing them and using self-justification for erroneous actions.

He also never apologized for Fast and Furious, for Benghazi, for the IRS scandal, for the terrible Obamacare roll-out or for the VA hospital disaster which was responsible for dozens of veterans dying while waiting for care. He simply won't apologize for anything, regardless of the evidence against him or his administration. It seems to be a political ego thing.

The truth and fact of the matter is that every single soldier who served with Bergdahl considers him a traitor who walked away from his post after claiming in an email to his parents that he was ashamed to be a soldier of the US military.

Why would anyone in our government give up 5 of the most dangerous Taliban fighters in existence (who will kill again) for someone who is most likely a traitor to our country? On top of that, Obama once again ignored procedural law regarding his actions.

There truly is not much room to excuse or justify this latest action.

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

@GaryO

That's the tolerant "left wing" speech that we are use to. "who cares...." and "...who cares about their opinions?" That's exactly how dictatorships are run.

I don't recall ever hearing a conservative complain that there was a prisoner of war. Of course they would like all US troops to be released and freed. However, not by negotiating with terrorists and embolden the enemy.

Only the left wing people celebrate and plead for the lives of murderers, killers while at the same time calling our own soldiers murderers and baby killers while making themselves rich at the hands of those that have sacrificed their lives.

Yet our military still put their neck on the line, even for people like GaryO who's incompetence and vote for Obama has caused the slaughter of more US Troops, Americans and Iraqis and Afghans. Not to mention the murders his regime committed with the VA.

How can a rationale person celebrate the lives of known killers? How can your party celebrate the murder of unborn children?
Weare inthe lastdays. How sad to see my country moving in the direction it's heading. No hope No change, moving backwards instead of progressingforward.

Concinnity
Richfield, UT

@ GaryO:

Once again you offer nothing but an anti-conservative tirade with nothing substantiated.

Question: How do you know what conservatives would've done had Bergdahl died in captivity?
Answer: You don't. You are anything but a conservative and with no basis whatsoever to try to speak for us. Your opinion should be offered as such and only as the conjecture it is.

You are conveniently forgetting the fact that many liberals in Congress are also condemning Obama for his action regarding this trade. He even ignored his own law in doing so.

You also conveniently forget that every single soldier who served with Bergdahl considers him a traitor who walked out from his post and thereby deserted his men.

You ask "who cares what conservatives have to say about it?"
Obviously you do. It's certainly got your dander up with the first post to this article.

You also ask what reasonable person is influenced by a conservative point of view?
The correct answer is... most of them.

Please do you homework next time before dispensing with personal political rhetoric.

The Wraith
Kaysville, UT

@ Brio

That's quite the list of conservative buzzword controversies. I would honestly like to hear an apology for Fast and Furious from Obama. I'd also like to hear one for Operation Wide Receiver (F&F's predecessor) from Bush. Benghazi has been debunked over and over but that isn't stopping you is it? You do realize that several independent researchers have shown that the IRS investigated just as many "Liberal" organizations as well. Or do you just really need to believe that it was only "conservative" ones so you can keep your anger up?

I'm curious what you would have done as President if you had the chance to bring home an American prisoner of war who had been held in captivity for 5 years. Would you have said, well left his post he'll just have to die there. Do you really believe he should have just been left there to rot? It feels like you're angry about this just to be angry about it.

I don't care what he did, 5 years in captivity is punishment enough. I'm happy this young man is back home.

Tators
Logan, UT

@ GaryO:

Do you consider yourself a "reasonable person"? You say "a reasonable person is never influenced by the conservatives point of view".

And yet you truly are influenced, almost daily. As proof, one only has to observe that almost every comment you make on every article is turned into an anti-conservative tirade. So once again I ask... are you a reasonable person?

And in response to your comment about only gnats caring about their opinion... well, that obviously would make you a gnat since you obviously do care so much. It's nearly all you every write about.

IMAPatriot2
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

We haven't received any apology ever from this POTUS. He is so political that he can't govern. He needs to be impeached.

Steffano J
Sandy, UT

Questions I would like to see the President address and discuss with the nation:

While I understand it may be an accepted practice to trade captives for release after a conflict is over, where is the wisdom in releasing enemy combatant leaders while this conflict is still being waged by the groups we released these to?

How does this effect the risk to our men and women in uniform of kidnapping them to seek the release of others?

If this man did in desert his post, should that effect what is done to affect his return? If so, how?

What was done to understand and consider the concerns of desertion expressed by this man's fellow soldiers?

Please do not brush off these questions as "political footballs." Yes, there will always be political positioning related to issues like this, but these are important, prudent questions about how we as a country deal with terrorism, deserters, and the well being of our men and women in the service.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

I would love to spend a few minutes in an alternate universe where the Commander in Chief refused to act and an American citizen (whatever crime he may have committed) died in an Afghani jail. Do you really suppose those who are bashing the President for his actions here would say he did the right thing there?

Me either.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

The president made a considered decision based on information he (not us) had. It was probably the best decision given the circumstances. The same lot would condemn him no matter what he did in this case, and there would have been some row had this chap died in captivity. So those that want to get apoplectic about it can do so; the deal is done and we can move on.

Brio
Alpine, UT

@ The Wraith:

In answer to your question (not that you're actually interested in any answers)...

I'll tell what I'm most angry about. I'm angry about the additional Americans that will die as a direct result of the 5 high ranking Taliban officials Obama gave freedom to.

Bringing home an American soldier... traitor or not... is not the issue in and of itself. It's good that he's home, but not at the high cost involved in this case. We gave up 5 militant terrorists that even many Democrats in Congress have admitted will most likely kill again. So yes, that bothers me. I wouldn't have made that trade that the Taliban is now publicly bragging about.

It bothers me that Obama set a precedent in negotiating with terrorists. That's something I'm not aware of America ever doing before. And by so doing, Obama has encouraged more kidnappings of Americans. That makes me angry.

Regarding Benghazi... Obama has never held anyone accountable for 4 dead Americans. Not a single arrest, even after promising he would find the perpetrators and bring them to justice ASAP. And yet nothing has happened. That also makes me angry.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

You BO apologists are in the minority. Recent CNN poll shows BO’s favorable ratings exceed his unfavorables in only 1 of 12 measures! Most measures show strong opposition to his policies.

wraith,
just because the MSM and the left dismiss BO’s failures as “conservative buzzwords” does not mean people did not die or were not unjustly treated as a result. Tell the parents of the dead border guard that he is nothing more than a “buzzword”. The depths you stoop to defend BO are amazing.

GaryO
You claiming innocence is JUST. TOO. FUNNY!!!!!

DukeSF
Spanish Fork, UT

He was a soldier. The US has had prisoner exchanges in every conflict they have been part of. If he did desert, he will be subject to the UCMJ. The politicians should stick to politics and not military matters!

The Wraith
Kaysville, UT

Lost did you even bother reading beyond the word buzzword in my post? Buzzword referred not to tragedy of the events themselves but to the fact that conservatives have turned these tragedies into nothing more than buzzwords because they refuse recognize the deeper complexity of the issues. Perhaps I didn't spell it out enough for you so I'll try again.

Yes Fast and Furious was a horrible thing. But so was Operation Wide Receiver, the predecessor run by Bush. Conservatives demand apologies for F&F but I never hear anyone say the same for WR. The family of that Border Guard who was killed in your example deserves just as much of apology if WR led to his death. Are you willing to admit that?

Are you willing to admit what study after study has said about the IRS "scandal"? That they targeted just as many liberal organizations?

Are you willing to decry Reagan for lapses in Embassy security that led to hundreds of deaths?

That's what makes them a buzzword, the fact that for conservatives there is only one side to every coin.

The Wraith
Kaysville, UT

Excellent Brio I actually agree with pretty much that entire post. I'm glad he's home but I don't like how it happened either.

I don't buy into any of the conservative tropes about Benghazi but I am bothered, like you, that nothing has come from it. At least that we know about. Couldn't we at least be told, well we learned a lot from this and this is what we are going to do differently? Even that seems too much to ask. However, I'm also even more annoyed that under Reagan, Clinton, Bush, and Bush II similar events happened and it seems no administration is doing anything about it.

See I do care about your answers. I hope you give the same respect to what I actually said and agree that Embassy bombings under Reagan were just as terrible. That Operation WR under Bush was just as terrible as F&F. That the IRS scandal is bogus because liberal and conservative organizations were targeted.

UT Brit
London, England

@Steffano J

"How does this effect the risk to our men and women in uniform of kidnapping them to seek the release of others? "

This is mund numbing. Do you not think this is the talibans number 1 objective since the beginning of the war?

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

The correct way to get Bergdahl would have been by a Special Ops team extraction. That would have taught the Taliban not to pick up strays. But Obama saw an opportunity (to release the worst prisoners from gitmo) and he seized it.

What will it will take for Congress to hold Obama to the bounds authorized the office of president under the Constitution?

OHBU
Columbus, OH

Something to note: The Taliban and Al-Qaeda are not the same thing. They're allies, but not the same. The Taliban only has a record of killing Americans in Afghanistan, not carrying out international terrorist activities. In this vein, they really are no different than the North Vietnamese, with whom we negotiated for the release of soldiers, one of whom is now parading about talking about how "we don't negotiate with terrorists."

Another note: many seem to be suggesting that there is near consensus on the fact that these released detainees will be a high security threat, when many within intelligence and the military have been making statements of the kind that this is more symbolic and they are unlikely to make a significant impact. In the words of Gen McChrystal who oversaw the conflict in Afghanistan at the time: "We don't leave Americans behind. That's unequivocal."

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Of course he is not going to apologize......Obama see's no distinction between Bergdahl the traitor/collaborator and every other soldier who has served or died?

Like spitting in the face of all who truly served with honor and distinction!

bobdc6
park city, UT

Here's what obligation the military, including the CinC is under. If Obama broke the law, Impeach, if Bergdahl deserted, court martial him, but only after bringing him home. No more whining and politicking.

Code of Conduct for the U.S. Fighting Force

"c. Just as you have a responsibility to your country under the Code of Conduct, the United States government has an equal responsibility—to keep faith with you and stand by you as you fight for your country. If you are unfortunate enough to become a prisoner of war, you may rest assured that your government will care for your dependents and will never forget you. Furthermore, the government will use every practical means to contact, support and gain release for you and for all other prisoners of war."

Notice there's no provision for ignoring deserters, the responsibility is to bring them ALL home.

Flashback
Kearns, UT

OHBU, North Vietnam is a recognized Nation/State member of the UN. The Taliban are not. Hence the negotiation with North Vietnam to return POW's.

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