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Published: Tuesday, June 3 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Neuron
NotInMiami, FL

We'll see if this is a good idea or not. The most likely effect will be an increase in the cost of living in Seattle. Those $1 or $2 hamburgers will become $4 hamburgers. A better solution (if Seattle wants to force people to spend more money to support low income workers) would be to provide education (technical or academic) to low income workers so that they can get out of low income jobs. Even better would be to make the money available through low interest loans that can be paid back once a new job with a higher wage is procured (i.e., microcredit - but this would be more sizable than most microcredit loans). People need skills more than they need more money.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Opportunity, and wage gap?

Cancel free trade agreements, and bring jobs back to America.

Competing with slave labor of other countries is not healthy.

Ciao Mike
West Valley City, UT

Some people come out of college with a degree and don't make $15/hour ($31,200/year). My initial thought is that an employee with no experience and no degree doesn't deserve to make that much money, but it will be interesting to see how the local economy is affected. My guess is that employers who hire a lot of minimum wage employees will leave town and setup shop somewhere else. Then there will be fewer jobs to be had, and unemployment will go up. It's a great economic experiment for sure.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Neuron" the hamburgers won't jump that high. They put in a clause for teenagers that allows the teens to be paid less than the adult workers. What you are going to see is more automation and fewer kids older than 18 work in the burger shops.

The Real Maverick
Orem, UT

@ Neuron

Actually, studies have shown that you could literally triple the min wage and the price for hamburgers would only increase a few cents.

The anti-min wage folks are the 1 percent. They're not basing their opinions on fact but on power. They'd rather treat their employees poorly and have control than to ever concede in giving them min wage.

Ciao Mike
West Valley City, UT

@ The Real Maverick

Please provide a link to the study your citing.

Sister McGoo
Cushing, OK

As the owner of a mom and pop burger joint, I can tell you that if we were forced to pay our staff 15$ an hour we would be out of business, or have to raise our prices at least 15%, probably more. 30% of a restaurants take goes straight into staff wages. Unskilled labor should not be earning 15$ an hour. The vast majority of people who apply at our store are either young and lack basic skills, or older and have major issues. The young people can't do things like count change or spell. We end up teaching them skills they should have learned in elementary school. The old people are either mentally ill, criminals or drug addicts. These folks need tutoring, therapy or rehab, not raises they haven't earned.

Brave Sir Robin
San Diego, CA

@The Real Maverick

Since you know so much about minimum wage economics, I'm sure you won't mind answering a couple of questions for me.

1. Since raising the minimum wage is such a great thing, why did Seattle stop at $15/hour? Why not make it $20/hour, or $100, or $200? What is the "right" minimum wage?

2. The federal minimum wage has been raised 38 times in the history of this nation. None of those have succeeded in eliminating poverty or closing the income gap. In fact, during that time, both poverty and income gap have grown. So what makes you think the 39th time will be the charm?

kiddsport
Fairview, UT

We are already seeing the fallout of the minimum wage raise. Employees are losing their ancillary benefits, such as free food, 401k, commission/tip sharing, etc. More than likely, if they had insurance, they will likely be dumped into the exchanges of Obamacare (Can you say VA on steroids?) They may be celebrating in Seattle but they are whistling past the graveyard.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

@ Real Maverick.

Seriously, provide the evidence please. I'm unsure what the best idea is. Certainly Walmart, Mc Donald's, Starbucks, etc shouldn't be paying someone a wage that requires them to be on welfare. I don't know about other places, but here in Omaha, there are NO teenagers at McDonald's. All 30 year olds and up.

GmaxD
Lehi, UT

If a $15/hr minimum wage is such a good idea, then, why not $30/hr? If a $15/hr minimum wage is such a good idea, why is it being phased in? Why not start enforcing the $15 minimum wage tomorrow?

Tenn12
Orem, UT

I applaud Seattle. I love these posters that think raising the minimum wage is a bad idea. It's interesting to see some calling out others for evidence that high minimum wage helps while never providing evidence that it hurts either. Is anyone aware that Seattle already paid one of the highest minimum wages in the nation even before this recent hike? And remember how high minimum wages kill jobs? Turns out Seattle is one of the fastest growing cities. It looks like their higher minimum wage has worked. I look forward to the positives this new hike will bring.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@GmaxD
"If a $15/hr minimum wage is such a good idea, then, why not $30/hr?"

Think of it like the Laffer curve. At some point you go too high and start creating a net harm.

Sven
Morgan, UT

As with all things liberals do, they will end up hurting the very people they claim to be helping. Raising the minimum wage for entry level jobs will be no different. This ridiculous, feel good legislation will have several negative consequences:

1) Prices for goods will increase. Employers are not just going to take this on chin and eat these costs. They will indeed pass them on to the consumer. When prices for a combo meal, or some other product goes up to a certain level, people will simply not purchase it. With today's lousy unemployment and overall poor economy, people will give up those "little extras" like eating out at fast food restaurants.

2) Employers will reduce the number of staff. Employers are in business to make a profit. If they are now mandated to pay these ridiculous wages for entry level jobs, they'll simply reduce their staff accordingly.

This really is a no-brainer. This will hurt the people who depend on these jobs.

But as with all things; liberals must never be judged by their results, only their good intentions.

J in AZ
San Tan Valley, AZ

According to the Congressional Budget Office, increasing minimum wage rates lowers employment. (http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44995)

Hamath
Omaha, NE

Well.. then Real, no evidence means I remain unconvinced and slightly on the side of gov't can't force the minimum wage up without worse consequences.

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