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Published: Monday, June 2 2014 2:46 p.m. MDT

Updated: Monday, June 2 2014 2:46 p.m. MDT

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Objectified
Richfield, UT

Not surprising that this report and initiative isn't expected to be finalized until next year, after the next Congressional elections take place. Obama and the democrats already know how unpopular this is going to be with the American people... and especially with voters.

And it's not surprising that many Congressional democrats are already trying to distance themselves from this initiative. Contrary to what the EPA spokesperson is saying about this "protecting local economies and jobs", it will do just the opposite. Many thousands of jobs will be lost, especially in the coal producing states.

Also, the cost of energy will significantly rise for everyone, which will especially hurt USA manufacturing companies that use a lot of energy in their manufacturing processes. This in turn will make their products more expensive and those companies less competitive in the global market. This undoubtedly will help stifle any progress we're currently experiencing in coming out of the economic recession.

As I've commented on previous articles, unless the USA can get China (the world's biggest polluter) and countries like India to take similar measures, this initiative will have only a very small effect on overall global pollution.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Just think of all the pollution put out on his Hawaiian, and campaign flights.

Too bad Obama can't lead by example.

VariedHue
Logan, UT

"...will shrink power prices,..." is equal to "You can keep your current doctor". Can we believe anything President Obama says anymore?

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ Objectified, I think the President's actions will end up as not only the right thing to do, even though it is not enough, but will be approved by the people as long as they get the whole story. Sadly, the carbon energy business, along with their minions, the GOP, will do everything they can to keep us from progress, from moving forward, and from solving a serious problem. It's amazing how a country that was built on progress and innovation has been effectively impeded in recent years by traditional industries with a lot of money who are trying to protect the past instead of letting us move forward. New investment and innovation means more economic activity and jobs. Old jobs may disappear, but new ones will emerge and we will all benefit economically as well as improve the long-term quality of life for us and those who follow. Why does the GOP oppose innovation and progress? Will their short range objectives serve them, and us, in the end? Is it more selfishness and living for the moment?

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I'm sorry, Mr. President, but you have repeatedly lied to the American people, fooling some of us all the time, and all of us some of the time.

However, no one should believe this latest whopper that closing down coal fired plants and imposing all sorts of new restrictions will magically reduce energy costs. This is even more dishonest than "If you like your doctor you can keep him and your insurance costs will drop $2,500." Or, your many prior "green energy investments" which have cost taxpayers hundreds of billions of dollars without generating a watt or erg, although your supporters have benefited financially.

We simply cannot believe you or trust you any more. About anything.

Well, except when you said "If someone wanted to build a new coal powered plant they could, but it would bankrupt them."

Prepare for your energy costs to skyrocket, and for blackouts and brownouts on a regular basis.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

lead to lower prices says barack?

Ya, well, he told us he'd cut the deficit in half in his first term and then he increased it

He told us we could keep our doctors guaranteed under obamacare, and then that turned out to be false

He told us our premiums wouldn't increase under obamacare, and then they did

He told us we wouldn't lose our plans under obamacare, and then they were lost

ipr
Spanish Fork, UT

@Objectified. I attended a colloquium at the University of Kansas Physics department. The topic was global warming and the question was posed "what if the pollution of China and India was set to zero, how would that change global warming?" The modeler told us, that it would have no effect at all on the rise in temperature. I thought you'd be interested in that.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

OK BO, you said under you plan electricity prices would necessarily skyrocket. Now you say they will reduce.

which is it, BO? down, or skyrocket? you cannot have it both ways.

Oh, I know, it's that typical liberal double standard. Up is down when it suits your needs.

Sven
Morgan, UT

“When I was asked earlier about the issue of coal…under my plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket…even regardless of what I say about whether coal is good or bad, because I’m capping greenhouse gasses, coal power plants, natural gas…you name it…whatever the plants were, whatever the industry was, they would have to retro-fit their operations.” -Barack Obama (January 17, 2008)

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The words above are from a very cold, detached person. He could care less if American's electricity rates "skyrocket" and financial hardships ensue. Guess who these regulations are going to hurt the most? That's right, the poor and low income who Obama and the Democrats always claim to be the champions of.

As others here have correctly noted; the increase in electricity costs are not just going to affect Americans home energy costs, but indeed, every other facet of our life. Manufacturers of all the products we use daily are going to pass these additional energy costs on to the customer.

People really have no idea how bad it's going to get. People who think this is a great idea are in for a rude awakening.

Sven
Morgan, UT

@lost in DC

You have to understand; Obama and the Democrat's target audience, are "Low-Information Voters." These are the type of folks who get their primary news from TMZ and Yahoo. Take for instance the topic we're discussing on this thread; all the Low-Information Voter will take from this is: "Hey, Obama cares about the environment...cool!"

With all of our technology, we're dumber than ever.

high school fan
Huntington, UT

Obama has ruined our healthcare, our school lunches, our foreign policy and now is after our energy. And we elected him twice.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

Can an Obama supporter explain how making electricty more expensive cuts costs?

Remember when Obama said the same thing about healthcare? How did that turn out?

Citizen John Doe
Orem, UT

Let's think logically about our energy production and needs. The shale oil and gas bonanza will not last forever. A few decades down the road, natural gas could get scarce. Also, a coal fired power plant can stockpile a supply of coal in case of a disruption in the supply. Earthquakes and other natural or man-made disasters could disrupt gas lines. Bottom line: one day we may wish we hadn't rushed to replace our reliable coal fired power plants with less reliable gas fired ones.

Environmentalists seem to be blind to these concerns, but since they are increasingly asserting control in society, I suspect that energy instability will increase. By mid-century, they will have painted us into a very dangerous corner.

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