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Published: Friday, May 30 2014 9:37 a.m. MDT

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Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

So help me out?

A guy makes racist comments and gets rewarded (his trust) with 2 billion dollars? (which by the way is 1.5 billion more dollars than anyone has ever paid for an NBA team...?)

WOW!

Iowa Jazz Fan 2
Cedar Rapids, IA

Ballmer apparently wants it real badly . . . . Why? Is he planning to move the Clippers to Seattle? Probably the majority of owners would approve of restoring basketball to Seattle.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

Bored

My sentiments exactly. I wish I could make that kind of profit by saying something stupid. Some punishment. It's not as if Sterling is a young guy like Mark Cuban who would be losing out on decades of ownership. The only thing Donald Sterling has to worry about now is not laughing himself to death at the absurdity of how the NBA and PC crowd think they are punishing him.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Bored,

Help me out,

So a guy makes a racist comment and you think his assets should be divided up amongst the rest of the league or perhaps all Americans and just taken from him?

So anyone who says something racist should immediately lose ownership of what they own?

What exactly are you confused about and what are your proposing should happen?

You do realize we live in a country where the govt has limitations as to what personal assets they can just go take away from people right?

Frankly, I'm confused why you are confused.

VegasUte
Las Vegas, NV

Please, Brer Fox - don't throw me into the briar patch!

USU-Logan
Logan, UT

@Christopher B

NBA is a private business organization, even if you condole Donald Sterling's racist remarks, you can not deny that his remarks harm the organization’s financial interests, harm the brand name, 3/4 of NBA players are black, they want him go, the team lost some sponsors due to this controversy, it directly harms the profit outlook of the whole league.

NBA is a business organization, not a government one, they can make decision to kick Sterling out based on their constitution and bylaws, which both NBA and Donald Sterling agreed upon when he joined the league. Their business decision does not need your approval.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

@usu-logan,

It appears you're trying to respond to me since you used my name, but you failed to address any of the point I brought up and instead made up your own points and countered yourself it appears.

Never did I suggest anything that your comment seems to argue, so I'm not really sure what your point is?

@Bored takes issue with the fact this guy was "rewarded" with $2 billion dollars for his remarks, and my point is that the team is his asset and even if the league can force him to sell(which I'm not arguing even though you seem to believe that incorrectly) he should be entitled to the fair value of that team.

What exactly are you people having a hard time with as far as the compensation he's going to receive and what is your proposal?

The league take possession of his team and not pay him the fair value for it?

Ya, good luck with that standing in any court of law.

Want to try again usu-logan?

worf
Mcallen, TX

Has anyone out in there, in America, not spoken some sort of bigoted remark in private conversation?

If you have. You should be fined millions, and have your life's work taken away.

Are we a nation of fools, or what?

USU-Logan
Logan, UT

@Christopher B

You ask "So anyone who says something racist should immediately lose ownership of what they own?"

Sterling's racist comments caused significant harm to NBA, and based on NBA constitution and bylaws, which both NBA and Donald Sterling agreed upon when he joined the league, the organization can kick him out, and they are just doing that.

Their business decision does not need your approval.

Jazzsmack
Holladay, UT

@USU-Logan

What significant harm?

I haven't see any harm at all from this. Let's not kid ourselves.

An it looks like everyone is gaining something from all this.

Christopher B
Ogden, UT

Usu Logan,

Donald sterling is entitled to the fair market value of the team, in this case 2 billion.

Not you, the nba, or the government can't take his team and not pay him the value of his team

His views on race don't mean the nba or you can steal his team.

He will and should receive the 2 billion.

Want to try again?

USU-Logan
Logan, UT

@Christopher B

Nice try to set up a straw man. Who said NBA or anybody would take Sterling's team away and not pay him fair market value? That is simply your imagination.

Of course he will receive the fair market value of the Clippers, NBA is playing by the rules.
The point is, NBA CAN and WILL kick him out because of his racist comments, and that is by the rules too, period.

@Jazzsmack

What is the harm? NBA already detailed them in the summary of Sterling termination charge.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

USU logan,

If you had read the first comment on this thread you would see that @Bored is indicating he takes issue with a guy getting "rewarded" with 2 billion dollars.

My point has been quite simple from the beginning, so I'm not sure where you got lost.

He SHOULD be paid the 2 billion. The NBA can't refuse to pay him, and it doesn't matter what you think. Your opinion does not matter.

For those upset he's getting "rewarded" with 2 billion, what would you rather happen?

The NBA just take his franchise and divide the wealth among everyone else?

Ya, that will never hold up in any court. Its silly to suggest something other than what has happened should happen.

Want to try again USU logan?

My2Cents
Taylorsville, UT

The NBA has gone afoul and made some enemy's with their ill thought out reactions to ones right of free speech. The NBA does not own the team, the owners, or players. Sterling can fire all the players, coaches, and put an end the team and keep its name and logos as intermolecular property.

There has been a racist collaboration created using racist slurs and faked scandal to try and rob him of his property. Free speech cannot be infringed upon, even if it is racist. Its our right and its time that the message is loud and clear, offending racial talk is everyone's right even for the white people. Free speech cannot be infringed upon and the NBA is stepping over the line in their actions.

If the NBA keeps this up then it could be the end of the NBA and professional basketball and may other sports. I'm for Sterling and his rights to think or say anything he wants. The blacks have to get used to being black and stop pretending to be white and offended if talk or being what they are is offensive.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

This "Scandal" was the best thing that ever happened to the Sterlings.

How could they plan it any better?

Before the release of that recording, the Clippers were valued at an estimated 3/4 billion dollars.

And after the brouhaha and media attention, they get TWO BILLION!

Some people have a real gift for attracting money.

You've really got to wonder if that was not the plan all along. If so, that was some masterful strategy that used the news media and the whole nation to help promote his product. Now THAT is salesmanship!

I hope Magic gets a few million for his troubles. He played his part quite well.

USU-Logan
Logan, UT

@Chris B

I’m not debating with Bro, I'm debating with YOU, because
YOU ask "So anyone who says something racist should immediately lose ownership of what they own?" in your first post.
And my response to YOUR own question is: for someone like Sterling, whose racist remarks hurt NBA's interest, NBA has their own rights to punish Sterling, whether you like it or not.

I guess after you realized that Sterling's racist remarks are not defensible, you don’t want to debate whether NBA can force him to lose the ownership or not, but want to shift the focus to $2 billion deal.
Nice try. I'm not changing the subject. For people who believe Sterling can say racist comments under free speech and still keep his ownership, I just want to say, he has his right of free speech, government cannot put him in jail; but based on the league's constitution and bylaws, NBA also has their rights to force Sterling to lose the Clippers, whether you like it or not.

the truth
Holladay, UT

@USU-Logan

I take it from your response,
not even you can come up with any real and actual damage?

USU_Logan
Logan, UT

@the truth

There is such a thing called "google", like I said at 6:41 p.m. May 30, if you put "summary of Sterling termination charge" in its search box, you can get a pdf file, which detailed the real and actual damage.

Sorry it is more than DN comment 200 words limits, but it also only has two pages, I believe you can finish reading it.

Jazzsmack
Holladay, UT

@USU_Logan

I am not asking you repeat some made up list that was created for legal reasons. I don't want legal mumbo-jumbo. And not any perceived subjective nonsense.

I just want for you to tell us any item of actual measurable damage from your own observations.

If you can't atleast do that then there isn't any real actual damage.

USU_Logan
Logan, UT

@Jazzsmack,

I already pointed out my observation of the actual damage. As a matter of fact, I said in my very first post at 1:07 pm May 30:

It damaged the reputation of NBA, harmed its brand name.
3/4 of NBA players are black, they want him go, they even threatened a strike, not going to the Clipper's game if Sterling is still the owner.
Some companies responded to this controversy by withdrawing their sponsorship, it directly harmed the profit outlook of the whole league.

But you just keep on asking what the real and actual damage is, I guess for someone who has the mindset already fixed on Sterling is treated unjustly, he is innocent, and NBA is bully, those damages mean nothing to you.

Just like the way you see NBA's legal documents, even if they can pass the scrutiny in the court of law, are just "some made up list that was created for legal reasons", "legal mumbo-jumb", "perceived subjective nonsense".

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