@Jazzsmack,I already pointed out my observation of the actual
damage. As a matter of fact, I said in my very first post at 1:07 pm May 30:It damaged the reputation of NBA, harmed its brand name. 3/4 of
NBA players are black, they want him go, they even threatened a strike, not
going to the Clipper's game if Sterling is still the owner.Some
companies responded to this controversy by withdrawing their sponsorship, it
directly harmed the profit outlook of the whole league. But you
just keep on asking what the real and actual damage is, I guess for someone who
has the mindset already fixed on Sterling is treated unjustly, he is innocent,
and NBA is bully, those damages mean nothing to you. Just like the
way you see NBA's legal documents, even if they can pass the scrutiny in
the court of law, are just "some made up list that was created for legal
reasons", "legal mumbo-jumb", "perceived subjective
@USU_LoganI am not asking you repeat some made up list that was
created for legal reasons. I don't want legal mumbo-jumbo. And not any
perceived subjective nonsense.I just want for you to tell us any
item of actual measurable damage from your own observations.If you
can't atleast do that then there isn't any real actual damage.
@the truthThere is such a thing called "google", like I said
at 6:41 p.m. May 30, if you put "summary of Sterling termination charge"
in its search box, you can get a pdf file, which detailed the real and actual
damage.Sorry it is more than DN comment 200 words limits, but it
also only has two pages, I believe you can finish reading it.
@USU-LoganI take it from your response,not even you can come
up with any real and actual damage?
@Chris BI’m not debating with Bro, I'm debating with YOU,
becauseYOU ask "So anyone who says something racist should immediately
lose ownership of what they own?" in your first post. And my response
to YOUR own question is: for someone like Sterling, whose racist remarks hurt
NBA's interest, NBA has their own rights to punish Sterling, whether you
like it or not.I guess after you realized that Sterling's
racist remarks are not defensible, you don’t want to debate whether NBA
can force him to lose the ownership or not, but want to shift the focus to $2
billion deal.Nice try. I'm not changing the subject. For people who
believe Sterling can say racist comments under free speech and still keep his
ownership, I just want to say, he has his right of free speech, government
cannot put him in jail; but based on the league's constitution and bylaws,
NBA also has their rights to force Sterling to lose the Clippers, whether you
like it or not.
This "Scandal" was the best thing that ever happened to the
Sterlings.How could they plan it any better?Before the
release of that recording, the Clippers were valued at an estimated 3/4 billion
dollars.And after the brouhaha and media attention, they get TWO
BILLION!Some people have a real gift for attracting money. You've really got to wonder if that was not the plan all along. If so,
that was some masterful strategy that used the news media and the whole nation
to help promote his product. Now THAT is salesmanship!I hope Magic
gets a few million for his troubles. He played his part quite well.
The NBA has gone afoul and made some enemy's with their ill thought out
reactions to ones right of free speech. The NBA does not own the team, the
owners, or players. Sterling can fire all the players, coaches, and put an end
the team and keep its name and logos as intermolecular property.There has been a racist collaboration created using racist slurs and faked
scandal to try and rob him of his property. Free speech cannot be infringed
upon, even if it is racist. Its our right and its time that the message is loud
and clear, offending racial talk is everyone's right even for the white
people. Free speech cannot be infringed upon and the NBA is stepping over the
line in their actions. If the NBA keeps this up then it could be the
end of the NBA and professional basketball and may other sports. I'm for
Sterling and his rights to think or say anything he wants. The blacks have to
get used to being black and stop pretending to be white and offended if talk or
being what they are is offensive.
USU logan,If you had read the first comment on this thread you would
see that @Bored is indicating he takes issue with a guy getting
"rewarded" with 2 billion dollars.My point has been quite
simple from the beginning, so I'm not sure where you got lost. He SHOULD be paid the 2 billion. The NBA can't refuse to pay him, and it
doesn't matter what you think. Your opinion does not matter.For
those upset he's getting "rewarded" with 2 billion, what would you
rather happen?The NBA just take his franchise and divide the wealth
among everyone else?Ya, that will never hold up in any court. Its
silly to suggest something other than what has happened should happen.Want to try again USU logan?
@Christopher BNice try to set up a straw man. Who said NBA or
anybody would take Sterling's team away and not pay him fair market value?
That is simply your imagination.Of course he will receive the fair
market value of the Clippers, NBA is playing by the rules. The point is,
NBA CAN and WILL kick him out because of his racist comments, and that is by the
rules too, period.@JazzsmackWhat is the harm? NBA
already detailed them in the summary of Sterling termination charge.
Usu Logan,Donald sterling is entitled to the fair market value of
the team, in this case 2 billion. Not you, the nba, or the
government can't take his team and not pay him the value of his team His views on race don't mean the nba or you can steal his team. He will and should receive the 2 billion. Want to try again?
@USU-LoganWhat significant harm?I haven't see any
harm at all from this. Let's not kid ourselves. An it looks
like everyone is gaining something from all this.
@Christopher BYou ask "So anyone who says something racist
should immediately lose ownership of what they own?"Sterling's racist comments caused significant harm to NBA, and based on
NBA constitution and bylaws, which both NBA and Donald Sterling agreed upon when
he joined the league, the organization can kick him out, and they are just doing
that.Their business decision does not need your approval.
Has anyone out in there, in America, not spoken some sort of bigoted remark in
private conversation?If you have. You should be fined millions, and
have your life's work taken away.Are we a nation of fools, or
@usu-logan,It appears you're trying to respond to me since you
used my name, but you failed to address any of the point I brought up and
instead made up your own points and countered yourself it appears. Never did I suggest anything that your comment seems to argue, so I'm not
really sure what your point is?@Bored takes issue with the fact this
guy was "rewarded" with $2 billion dollars for his remarks, and my point
is that the team is his asset and even if the league can force him to sell(which
I'm not arguing even though you seem to believe that incorrectly) he should
be entitled to the fair value of that team.What exactly are you
people having a hard time with as far as the compensation he's going to
receive and what is your proposal?The league take possession of his
team and not pay him the fair value for it?Ya, good luck with that
standing in any court of law.Want to try again usu-logan?
@Christopher BNBA is a private business organization, even if you
condole Donald Sterling's racist remarks, you can not deny that his remarks
harm the organization’s financial interests, harm the brand name, 3/4 of
NBA players are black, they want him go, the team lost some sponsors due to this
controversy, it directly harms the profit outlook of the whole league. NBA is a business organization, not a government one, they can make
decision to kick Sterling out based on their constitution and bylaws, which both
NBA and Donald Sterling agreed upon when he joined the league. Their business
decision does not need your approval.
Please, Brer Fox - don't throw me into the briar patch!
Bored,Help me out,So a guy makes a racist comment and
you think his assets should be divided up amongst the rest of the league or
perhaps all Americans and just taken from him?So anyone who says
something racist should immediately lose ownership of what they own?What exactly are you confused about and what are your proposing should
happen?You do realize we live in a country where the govt has
limitations as to what personal assets they can just go take away from people
right?Frankly, I'm confused why you are confused.
BoredMy sentiments exactly. I wish I could make that kind of profit
by saying something stupid. Some punishment. It's not as if Sterling is a
young guy like Mark Cuban who would be losing out on decades of ownership. The
only thing Donald Sterling has to worry about now is not laughing himself to
death at the absurdity of how the NBA and PC crowd think they are punishing him.
Ballmer apparently wants it real badly . . . . Why? Is he planning to move the
Clippers to Seattle? Probably the majority of owners would approve of
restoring basketball to Seattle.
So help me out?A guy makes racist comments and gets rewarded (his
trust) with 2 billion dollars? (which by the way is 1.5 billion more dollars
than anyone has ever paid for an NBA team...?)WOW!