Though every organization will make mistakes, this White House struggles too
often. It doesn't seem to be very well managed. This instance is just one
I am heartsick over this. What a way to end Memorial Day! Let's just put
put the lives of our defenders and their families at risk.
This is a terrible development. Shortly after the administration leaked that
Seal Team 6 were the principle players in killing Osama Bin Laden, many were
shot down with a rocket propelled grenade in a transport chopper. This
administration's revelation of the CIA's top official is beyond inept.
It is destructive in multiple facets. President Obama must amend his
administration's course immediately. This is not about politics. It is
simply about what is right or deadly wrong. As an active duty officer in the
Air Force, episodes like this make it incredibly difficult to follow this
At least this flub wasn't a deliberate "outing" like the Bush
administration's "outing" of Valerie Plame as punishment for her
husband's blowing the whistle on their Iraq/yellowcake lies.
@ Furry. Yellow cake lies? Perhaps you missed the Associated Press article
published 7/5/2008 6:57:12 PM ET. "The last major remnant of Saddam
Hussein's nuclear program — a huge stockpile of concentrated natural
uranium — reached a Canadian port Saturday to complete a secret U.S.
operation that included a two-week airlift from Baghdad and a ship voyage
crossing two oceans. The removal of 550 metric tons of "yellowcake"
— the seed material for higher-grade nuclear enrichment — was a
significant step toward closing the books on Saddam's nuclear legacy. It
also brought relief to U.S. and Iraqi authorities who had worried the cache
would reach insurgents or smugglers crossing to Iran to aid its nuclear
ambitions."Drat GWB! Drat him for stopping a rogue dictator from
getting nukes! Drat him!
@Thid you are correct, but not telling the whole story, which is a lie of
omission, much like bush/cheney used on a regular basis.In 2008, the
United States facilitated shipping yellowcake (refined uranium ore) out of Iraq.
This yellowcake had been stockpiled prior to the first Gulf War, and was
declared to the International Atomic Energy Agency and under IAEA
safeguards. More than 550 tons of yellowcake was removed from Iraq and
eventually shipped to Canada.Why would he seek something he already
had?Even with the uranium, he would have had to of built centrifuges (see
Iran) and spent years turning it into weapons grade uranium.Furry is
correct in pointing out that, outing an undercover agent on purpose isn't
the same as accidentally doing it and admitting such.
@ThidBarker 7:42 a.m. May 27, 2014It's clear you didn't
fact-check your source on that once. Snopes investigated that claim and found
it to be false. Please, before you try to make that type of claim, be sure
it's true so this doesn't happen to you again.I stand by
the accuracy of my coment -- *I* fact-checked my sources before making it.
I stand by the facts stated in article of the newspaper. Argue with them if you
The yellowcake in question was not purchased by Saddam for any nuclear program.
In fact5, the yellowcake was not secretly purchased by Saddam for ANY purpose.
It came from two reactors at Al Tuwaitha, one of which had been bombed by the
Israelis and another which was bombed and destroyed by US forces during the
Desert Storm action. Inspectors had been well aware of its existence for many
years. There was NO evidene that any nuclear material had been purchased after
1993. This old yellowcake had been stored in aging drums since before 1991, and
was being moved out of Iraq for health and safety reasons. This was not the
yellowcake George lied about, and because of which George and his adminsitration
"outed" a covert CIA operative.That's what a full
invstigation of the assertions you cite disclose. Quite a different story from
the one you are trying to tell.
This is as endangering as the original Snowden leak. Those responsible should be
prosecuted to the fullest, not just say, "oops, sorry", and get off.In the White House, just exactly where should the buck stop? Yeah, at the top.
Leave it up to two ultra-liberals (Furry 1993 and Happy Valley Heretic) to
immediately go into a defensive mode and instead of seeing this for what it
really is, they try to make this something about the Bush administration, which
this story has absolutely nothing to do with. Wow. The Obama minions seem to
lack all objectivity when doing such things. This administration
promised transparency. But this isn't quite the kind most of us were hoping
for or expecting. Instead, we keep lacking the kind of transparency we want and
need, while getting too much of the kind that shouldn't be getting. A very
backward administration. BTW: This story has nothing whatsoever to
do with any previous administration. This is entirely about and concerning the
present one. Making excuses for this one or trying to deviate doesn't do
anyone, including Obama, any favors. Like every administration of the past, he
also needs to be held accountable for what happens on his.
@Furry1993, "At least this flub wasn't a deliberate "outing"
like the Bush administration's "outing" of Valerie Plame as
punishment for her husband's blowing the whistle on their Iraq/yellowcake
lies." Armitage leaked the information unknown to the
President, during an interview about why the cia sent plame's husband to
verify the information in Iraq. Valarie's name was mentioned and she was
accounted as a nonproliferation expert. Armitage took full blame for the event
and did not even hire attorneys to hide behind. The reporter acknowledged the
source and how it came about. Repeating the liberal lefts talking
points is missing the truth and facts you state you rely on. Both cases are
bad, but don't defer the issue based on what happened in the bush
administration. Remember the special prosecuter did not convict anyone for the
leak. Scoter Libby was prosecuted for obstruction of justice. Not for being the
Oops.Mistakes happen don't they?It's not as if
anyone purposefully did wrong though, is it?This is not a Republican
administration we're talking about here . . . motivated by hate and a
desire for revenge . . . Not Tricky Dick rubbing his hands in glee over his
sabotage of his Democratic opponent, or GW smugly smirking as he remembers how
he got re-elected with a few little white lies about WMD's and Swift
Boats.This a Democratic Administration, motivated by a desire to
help the nation . . . The Good Guys.Unfortunately, even do-gooders
occasionally make mistakes.
What difference does it make?
Yes, I am certain that Mr. Obama is "really mad" about this leak. His
administration is giving incompetence a bad name. Gary, Solyndra-type failures, the ACA roll out and other disastrous billion dollar
follies Mr. Obama has made certain do help HI$ guys, but they leave us and
future generations to pay the bill.
Hey 4601 -"Solyndra-type failures, the ACA roll out and other
disastrous billion dollar follies Mr. Obama has made certain do help HI$ guys,
but they leave us and future generations to pay the bill."Solyndra cost the nation half a billion dollars. GW's WMD
scandal cost this nation an estimated 3 trillion dollars, SIX THOUSAND times as
much as Solyndra cost us, and that doesn't even count the thousands of
lives lost.That made GW's friends connected with the military
industrial complex very happy, "but they leave us and future generations to
pay the bill."