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Published: Thursday, May 22 2014 9:45 p.m. MDT

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Dr. Thom
Long Beach, CA

So if a typical fast food worker with a HS education makes $7.50 per hour and now wants $15.00 per hour, how much should the typical PT college adjunct make considering that most adjuncts have at least a graduate or terminal degree? Probably about $75,000 which will put the average FT professor at $150,000.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

Do these workers deserve more money? Probably. People will tell them it has to do with their value but that is not true. I am guessing if the owners of these franchises could not find workers they would have to raise their wages. This has nothing to do with the value of the individual necessarily but with the fact there is a abundant supply of people who will work for these wages.

RBB
Sandy, UT

Shaun,

Will you pay 7.50 for a Big Mac? If not, a lot of these people will lose their jobs. Watch for a touch screen at the drive through where you can order. 2 jobs gone. Watch for increased automation in the kitchen. Another couple of jobs gone. Owners have two options, raise prices or automate. If prices double does making twice as much really help? I know if prices double I will be brown bagging it a lot more.

I would like everyone to make more, but economies do not function in a vacuum. Some people will be better off, but a lot will lose their jobs. Just look at the unemployment rate for 18-25 year Olds in Europe.

Hamath
Omaha, NE

RBB,

Won't the automation of any industry lead desperate (but creative) people to create new ideas/industries, (etc) jobs? We seem to have had plenty of jobs eventually as the farming community has becoming automated. Please don't read any negative connotations into my comments. I'm asking honestly. I've always been confused by the automation argument, because I think that we'll just adjust. It will take time (and for those years I get the automation argument), but within a few years, other jobs will be created. I haven't thought through the argument deeply and wanted to know what counterarguments there are to what I am saying.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Shaun,

it has EVERYTHING to do with their value as fast food workers. basic supply and demand defines employee value. since people with the skillset to be fast food workers are so common, of COURSE their compensation is going to be lower.

Their value as individuals is much higher, but NO ONE should measure their self worth based on how much money they make. and your value as an individual does NOT walk in lock step with the value of their labor

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

To "Shaun" I am confused. You say that they are not being paid for their value at the same time you say that they are not valuable because there are so many potential employees out there. Which is it? If their value was greater, why are there so many that can easily fill thier positions?

An employee's value is based on two things. First, how common is a person with a particular skill set. Second is how much value does that person add to the business.

In the case of Fastfood workers, there are tons of people capable of filling a minimum wage job. That right there drops the value of an employee quite low. Since their employees have little interaction with their customers, an individual employee adds little to the value of the business.

DN Subscriber
Cottonwood Heights, UT

If they do not like the wages at McDonalds, the finish school, attend college, learn a skilled trade (plumber, mechanic, welder) or become a teacher or doctor.

McDonalds is (or should be) an entry level job to demonstrate the ability to show up on time, do what you are told, be courteous and respectful, and work your way up to ever more responsible (and better paying) jobs.

I bet that many of the protesters at this demonstration were not actually McDonald's workers but a left ring "rent a mob" bussed to the site and paid to show up.

All the folks who think raising the minimum wage is a good idea need to go out and start their own businesses and pay "a living wage" to their employees. At least until they go bankrupt.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Low skilled jobs just don't pay the same as high skilled ones. Period!

This is what happens when you have an entitled society.

Are we turning into a nation of beggars?

worf
Mcallen, TX

These protesters don't have grit!

Go on strike, and quit!

Low skilled workers are hard to find.

FT
salt lake city, UT

While I don't eat at McDonalds I do support a person's right to strike or for them to form a union. History has shown that without either owners will take advantage of labor.
@ Worf-How do you define these workers as beggars? They're working hard and want more for their efforts.

worf
Mcallen, TX

@FT:

They're begging for money which come from higher skilled work.

Should a dishwasher be paid the same as a plumber?

McDonald's is a great job while you are developing a skill. Many doctors, at one time, worked at McDonald's while finishing school.

To expect greater pay without developing higher skills is simply begging. Something for nothing. Working hard doesn't always require skill. I wouldn't want any hard worker fixing my teeth.

Meckofahess
Salt Lake City, UT

@DN Subscriber

I have a college degree and I have worked very hard to get where I am at in my life. School was very hard for me as I am a slow learner but I persisted to be able to graduate and get a job good enough to support a family with 4 children. That said, there are a lot of circumstances in society where a given percentage of citizens may not have the means, opportunity, or inherent ability to achieve a college degree. For those people, jobs requiring less skill and education are perhaps the best they can do. As these good people work very hard and help business owners achieve success, it is only right that they be paid a "living wage" and share in some of the success. A higher minimum wage is needed. Finally, I encourage all individuals to do as much as they can to get an education or vocational skill and try to get a better paying job if at all possible.

worf
Mcallen, TX

College is not the only way of gaining a skill.

Why gain a skill if you're going to be paid as if you have one?

Just give it to me attitude. Entitlement!

Jamescmeyer
Midwest City, USA, OK

If my employee wants a given amount of money, they have to give that amount in service or productivity. If they do not and I'm mandated to pay it, I have to let them go. There's no getting around that, no matter one's personal situation.

If I were among the comparatively few people who rely on a minimum wage job to make ends meet, jeapordizing it in a protest is one of the -last- things I'd do. I therefore doubt most of these protesters are among the people who really need or deserve the increase.

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