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Published: Monday, May 19 2014 6:50 a.m. MDT

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Utefan60
Salt Lake City, UT

I would hope that the reason the Tea Party is failing is that there has been no effort led by that faction that shows any good changes for America and it's citizens. The shut down of the government by Cruz and our own Mike Lee should show Americans that they have not done anything good for this country. A moderate Republican and Democrat party that works with compromise is what we are sorely in need of.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Utefan -

Absolutely, the Tea Party has done nothing good for this nation.

And the larger Republican Party, as tainted as it has now become with Tea Party poison, has done nothing good for this nation in a long while either, and most likely will continue doing NOTHING good for this nation throughout the foreseeable future.

The solution?

NEVER vote Republican.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

The tea party has single handedly returned the GOP to the conservative values this nation needs and away from the communist regime that is today's left leaning loonies in Washington, D.C. and PUTIN's kicking dummy, Obama!

And Mike Lee deserves all the credit for the govt shut down that sent a clear message about the coming tsunami Obamacare that has crippled our economy and destroyed the hopes and dreams of young Aericans who are left with college debt of 100's of thousands to sift through Obama jobs that pay minimum wage and max out at 30 hours a week,,,,,,so YES Mike Lee and the tea party were right to shut down the Obama job killing government!

FT
salt lake city, UT

Not sure about Cruz but Mike Lee's days are numbered. The count my vote drive secured that. The majority of Utahns will get to decide who their Senator is in 2016 and the main stream GOP and independents do not want a radical representing them in Congress.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

The Tea Party is a label marginalized by the left. Use the term and progressives hope you will envision old people with little education and several teeth missing.
For those of you who agree with that notion, all conservatives can be pigeon-holed under the Tea Party label...except that would be wrong.
There are plenty of people out there who are tired of the GOP because it behaves like the democratic party.
Abortion, same gender marriage, amnesty, high taxes...
We're called conservatives and we are looking for a home. The GOP doesn't seem to care about us any more.
Too bad; we are loyal voters. We even show up on rainy days.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

I am trying to figure out how the Tea Party is losing at the same time they are winning so many important races. In some their polls have gone from indicating they would receive 5% of the votes to the Tea Party canidate winning with a good sized margin.

Furry1993
Ogden, UT

@RedShirt 12:17 p.m. May 19, 2014

I am trying to figure out how the Tea Party is losing at the same time they are winning so many important races. In some their polls have gone from indicating they would receive 5% of the votes to the Tea Party canidate winning with a good sized margin.

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That's easy. The voters in the elections are low-information voters who have been identified by the far-right power brokers and gathered together in get-out-the-vote efforts. The people answering the polls are the ones who have educated themselves and thought out the issues.

RanchHand
Huntsville, UT

@Say No;

If the shoe fits...

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Say No . . .

"The Tea Party is a label marginalized by the left."

No, the Tea Party is marginalized by the Tea Party and their complete lack of credibility.

With several years of obstuction and destruction and ZERO useful accomplishments under their belts, it's hard not to notice just how bad the Tea Party is for America and Americans.

Say No to BO
Mapleton, UT

@ Ranch and Gary
Thanks for the free advice.
Next time offer to consult with the DNC.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Furry1993" but study after study shows that the Tea Party members have higher education levels and study out the canidates more than anybody else. But how can Tea Party Republican members be "low-information voters" if they are the most informed voters that belong to any political party? Pew research found that Republicans are the most informed voters out there.

But again, if they are less informed, then why did Rassmussen find that the Tea Party is regarded as having a better understanding of the issues facing us than Congress. Does that mean that Congress is clueless too?

So, if the Tea Party Republicans are the "low-information voters" does that mean that the Democrats are the "no-information voters"?

The point is that the Tea Party Republicans statistically are well informed voters. So again, how can the by losing when they keep winning elections where they shouldn't be?

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

@ Say No to O
Truth
Red Shirt

Please correct me if I am wrong, But it seems to me that more important than being a Republican or a Democrat is to be an American. In order to make America great we need to work together and to achieve that "working together" we need to compromise.

The Tea Party influenced Congress and for the last 6 years Congress has said... No!

Fortunately, many people are overcoming the fever and with a cooler head are realizing that the demagoguery of the Tea Party is hurting all of us with very few exceptions.

The United States of America is not the result of "one" current of opinion but that of many. Sectarianism and bigotry are the enemy of pluralism and democracy.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

I'd agree that trying to avoid a Primary challenge might cause a GOP officeholder to abandon all bipartisanship efforts in favor of full time hate.

'Shirt seems impressed with a poll result showing that tea party types are the best informed of all voters. He could be right, but I doubt that the strongest GOP states today are the same places where the most informed voters live. I'll take Cambridge Mass. 'Shirt can compare it to Little Rock or Shreveport.

wjalden
Cottonwood Heights, UT

The problem with "the Tea Party" is that it is a loosely organized coalition of voters with multiple organizations claiming the mantle of leadership, many of them little more than front groups for standard establishment, pro-crony capitalist, anti-middle class propaganda. FreedomWorks and Americans for Prosperity are fronts for the Koch brothers. Tea Party Express is run by long-time campaign consultant and pro-establishment Sal Russo, who directs most of the money he raises to his own consulting firm, Russo, & Associates.

The members are often quite sincere, but the leaders often are not.

wjalden
Cottonwood Heights, UT

"With several years of obstuction and destruction and ZERO useful accomplishments under their belts, it's hard not to notice just how bad the Tea Party is for America and Americans."

Because trillion dollar annual deficits, pointless wars in the Middle East, 12 million illegal aliens, and costly bailouts of the banking & housing industries are working so well. The Tea Party should get out of the way of more such examples of wonderful governance, both Democrat and Republican.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "Baccus0902" you are partially wrong. Yes we need to be Americans, and we need to work together. The problm is that we have 2 paths ahead of us.

You have the path that the Democrats and Progressive Republicans are taking, which will lead to socialism.

The other path is what the Tea Party presents, and that is to freedom and independance.

We should be grateful for what the Tea Party has done in Congress. They have taken the adult stand and said No to a lot of legislation that would eliminate more of your freedoms.

Just look at what the Harry Reid has prevented from even being voted on. There have been many laws passed by the House that could have helped get businesses hiring again. He also refused to look at a CR that would have funded the government and delayed Obamacare.

The Tea Party is what the nation needs, people willing to say no to more entitlements, cut the regulation, and get the government out of our lives.

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

To "OtisBDriftwood" yes, lets hold up reagan as an icon. We know he wasn't perfect, and we can learn from both his successes and failures.

We can learn from his economic policies how to get a stalled economy going again.

We can also learn from the debt he allowed to grow that you can't trust the Democrats in Congress. You see, those of us that have looked into history know that Reagan regretted compromising with the Democrats by allowing them to spend more with the promise that the Democrats would cut spending in a couple of years.

Third try screen name
Mapleton, UT

...and Otis plays the race card.
Someone had to do it. Heaven forbid we talk about bailouts, deficits, government spending, the overreach of federal programs, a huge unfunded entitlement called the ACA, a deceptive VA, a bully called the IRS...
Just point to the squirrel and deflect the issues.
Thanks for your help there, Driftwood.

LovelyDeseret
Gilbert, AZ

I keep hearing how the Tea Party is losing but the strongest members of the Senate appear to be Tea Party Republicans. Rand Paul, Ted Cruz, and Mike Lee. I think as long as Obama is in office the Tea Party will grow.

LovelyDeseret
Gilbert, AZ

@UteFan60 There are no moderate democrats left. Obama chased away all the blue dogs. There are plenty of moderate Republicans left but the Tea Party is trying to chase them away.

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