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Published: Wednesday, May 14 2014 6:47 p.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Gary0,

Barack should tell us the truth don't you think?

Don't you think he should understand obamacare?

If barack knew that what he was saying wasn't true, why did he say it?

Or did he not understand obamacare?

Not a very good example of competence or honesty he's providing to the nation's children

I'm glad I could help you.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

If you're not yet willing to see how badly we need a single payer system we'll just keep trying to make a failed one work. In other words, if we haven't suffered enough, it's our right to suffer some more.

David
Centerville, UT

GaryO

In the article it states that people were told their doctor would be on their new Obama-approved plan, but when they received their insurance cards they discovered the opposite. How can people do more due-diligence than they already are.

It is liberals who think Americans are too incompetent to manage things themselves so they need the government to do nearly everything for them.

Conservatives trust people to manage their own lives.

I'll cast my lost with conservative philosophy.

By the way, Obamacare is a nightmare.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Why can't we have leaders who tell the truth? Come clean with the people!

We won't see our taxes go up a single dime, and the deficit will be cut fifty percent in three years.

You can keep your plans, and your premiums will be reduced by $2,500 a year.

Hillary stated she was under fire in Bosnia, when she wasn't. --She may be the next president.

Blue
Salt Lake City, UT

A little statistical analysis would have been appropriate for this article. The fact that it relies on anecdotes and unquantifiable assertions says more about the article than it does the ACA.

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

@Cletus

Don't the vast majority of us get our health care from our employers?

Does any employer ask his/her employees who their doctor choices are? Do employees get any say in what even might be covered?

Your argument about all of this is rather stilted by your biased views of the President.

Shaun
Sandy, UT

I could care less about other people losing their doctor. All I care about is me. Its the republican way.

Madsen Hall Magic
Centerville, UT

Doctors are trained to evaluate, diagnose, and treat stuff. But they must also make enough money to cover their business expenses and make a profit to provide for their families. So approaching a doctor and asking him/her to contract with a very poor insurance plan that will not reimburse sufficiently to provide profitability is akin to slavery. You're asking the doctor to work for nothing.

One post here suggested asking the doctor to ignore the junk insurance policy and simply sign up because the patient needs treatment. The medical profession is a business too.

Do you think I am making this up? It happens all the time.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hi David –

You may be confused about what the article said.

“Before the law took effect, experts warned that narrow networks could impact patients' access to care . . . “

There are probably hundreds of health insurance plans that qualify under the ACA . . . different variations from different insurance providers. Due diligence would require looking at a plan you like, and BEFORE you sign up for it, consult your doctor’s office and see if they will accept it. Not that hard, huh?

“Conservatives” should just give up on their I’m-so-helpless mentality, and the constant whining about the mythical government boogeyman.

Chris B –

I know, I know . . . It’ll be OK.

Thank you guys for reaching out. I’m glad I could help.

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

@ ordinaryfolks

Um--it looks like you missed the point that everyone else seemed to get--an answer to your question why this is news?

Of course people had to change doctors before Obamacare--that's not relevant to the answer to your question of why this is "news." The fact of the matter is that Obama served up a nice cold drink of Kool-aide, of which you willingly guzzled, by claiming "no matter how we reform health care, we will keep this promise: If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor. Period."

Being the good liberal you seem to be, this false promise really shouldn't be news because the end justifies the means. The new invitation to the American people now reads, as Parker from the Center for Urban Renewal and Education sardonically penned, "You are cordially invited onto the government plantation. P.S. We're in charge but you pick up the tab."

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Cletus from Coalville -

"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor."

Right. If your really like your doctor, then you will find health care insurance your doctor will accept.

It's that simple. And no, YOU have to do it. It's not the government's job to do your legwork for you.

If you like you doctor, then sign up for insurance he will accept.

That's about as straightforward as it can get. Don't blame Obama for your mistakes.

Itsjstmeagain
Merritt Island, Fl

Please pay attention.
Only the insurance industry canceled policies months before 1 Jan 2014. Not the ACA. They did it to scare you into buying a policy outside the exchange at higher prices.
Only the Doctor or groups decide which plans they will accept. ACA provides a large number of plans to chose from. Some cheap, some more inclusive.
When you do not do any homework, like check with your Doctor if he will accept the insurance then you hurt yourself. You can keep your Dr. but pick the right plan.

Star Bright
Salt Lake City, Ut

Hutterite: The Veterans Administration is a single payer system! NO THANKS!

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

Hey GaryO-

Such a typical liberal response--deflecting the issue away from the faulty Obama rhetoric in order to protect a leader who knowingly misleads--all in an effort to advance a unpopular agenda--it's that simple.

Again--the issue has nothing to do with picking the right plan or signing up for insurance that your doctor will accept, before, or even after Obamacare. No one is questioning the fact that people should be smart when choosing insurance. Of course people should take responsibility for their own actions or "lack of action."

The issue is about the American people originally being sold a bill of goods by perpetuating a myth, only now to be exposed as such.

That's about as straightforward as it can get.

Brio
Alpine, UT

@ GaryO:

Do a bit more research and you will discover that many doctors in America have opted out of Obamacare altogether. The red tape involved and the far-reaching control it has over them makes it not worth it. As such, for many people whose doctor made that particular choice, it doesn't matter which option of Obamacare they choose, their doctor will not be available there.

And that list of doctors is continually growing. Doctors who originally planned on being a part of this fiasco when people signed up are now dropping out for the same mentioned reasons. Too much red tape and too much control involved. Obamacare tells doctors which tests they are allowed to run, which medications they can prescribe, how much they can charge, how many different agencies they have to report to concerning detail of every one of their patients, etc.. It's just not worth it to them.

@ Itsjstmeagain:

The insurance companies were forced by Obamacare to cancel preexisting policies because they didn't meet all of Obamacare's overly lengthy list of requirements. They didn't have a choice in the matter. There was no scare factor involved whatsoever. Do more research.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Shaun,
Exactly the response I get from liberals when we point out how people are losing their insurance and doctors – I got mine, too bad about the rest, but I really don’t care.

GaryO,
Didn’t matter what was happening before. Didn’t matter if narrow networks impacted access. What part of “...you can keep your doctor. PERIOD”, do you not understand?

Please tell us what is confusing you, so we can help you.

I think from your 8:54 am post we get the idea that you will have to pay through the nose if you really want your doctor. Sorry, that is NOT what BO said.

Jeez, the mental gymnastics one goes through to defend the indefensible is incredible. Must be exhaustingly frustrating being a BO apologist.

Itsjustmeagain
Please pay attention:
Doesn’t matter what the doctors or insurance companies did. BO said it would not happen. BO lied.

Concinnity
Richfield, UT

Most people now using Obamacare are discovering that it is basically what catastrophic insurance used to be. There are huge co-pays and annual deductibles that often range from $6,000 or $8,000 or sometimes even higher. In other words you have to have something very serious happen before Obamacare will pay out anything at all. That's basically what catastrophic insurance is... or was.

And since only 7 million out of the 335 million people in America are now using Obamacare, the outcry has been relatively minimal. But when the much bigger phase 2 kicks in after this next election (the timing of that was purposely delayed until then) when employer-based Obamacare insurance plans becomes mandatory and starts effecting the majority of Americans, there will be a huge uproar and general rebellion against Obamacare. Democrat Congressmen who are already trying to distance themselves from Obama will be running for the hills. Comparatively, "you ain't seen nothing yet!" Wait, watch and learn. It won't be pretty.

RedShirtCalTech
Pasedena, CA

To "Hutterite" and who are you going to get to establish the laws and regulations for a single payer system? Are you going to trust the same group that couldn't get an insurance program right to get a single payer system right?

Plus, why go for a single payer system? Do you hate the elderly that die every year on wait lists or die becuase they are not allowed the best medications?

Laura Bilington
Maple Valley, WA

My son was 29, unemployed, uninsured, and has a preexisting condition which required just under $500 worth of prescription drugs each month. We could not get insurance which would cover these prescriptions at ANY price.

Our governor cared enough about the health of the people in this state to cooperate with the Medicaid expansion. He is more than pleased with the coverage under this plan. I wish the governor of Utah cared as much for his subjects.

Tell me, somebody, seriously---why would ANYBODY want to keep other people from getting health insurance? A single payer system--essentially expanding Medicare to the entire population-- would have been better, but the Republicans were determined to fight Obama at any cost. You'd think their constituents were the Koch brothers rather than the people of Utah.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Crazy!

Obama wouldn't say anything, if it wasn't true!

Wouldn't he?

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