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Published: Wednesday, May 14 2014 6:47 p.m. MDT

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Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

How can this be?!

We have the great barry Obama on record over 32 times stating you will not lose your doctor. Everyone will see an average $2500 in savings. Everyone will be insured. People wouldn't lose homes. There is no death panel. And it is not a tax.

He also told us he is clueless about Benghazi, however when it came time to get Osama he personally trained the seal team 6 to go after him. In fact he said they were soo incapable of making a plan, that he told them to bring back up helicopters just in case. No other president, he claimed, could have done that. You know like George Washington that actually fought in battles and put his neck on the line, no....barack was much much more than him.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

So when barack promised we could keep our current plan, he really meant "you can keep your plan unless I decide you can't"

And when he promised we could keep our doctors he really meant "you can keep your doctors unless obamacare makes it so you can"

Thanks Barack for your honesty. Either he didn't understand obamacare or he knowingly lied time and time again.

Which is it?

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

Jeez, this happened to us before the Health Care law went into full effect. This is news? Insurance companies spend a huge amount of time figuring out how to save money. They are a for profit business. It is their job to cover us for the least possible cost to them. Just what part of the free enterprise system don't folks understand?

Liberal Ted
Salt Lake City, UT

It used to be, if you didn't like your insurance plan. You didn't have to carry it. Now you are forced to carry an insurance plan that you don't like, with less coverage....

Hope and change just gave us a lot of nothing. The only counter argument from the left, is to try and demonize how things used to be.

Red Pepper Hot Pepper
Cedar Hills, UT

I do think that the US President has the right to lie (which is said on CNN by one guest) because you the American people elect the President of US. Right?

Cletus from Coalville
Coalville, UT

@ordinaryfolks

“This is news?”

No--of course it's not news to liberals who don't really care what was promised to Americans by the leader of the free world---only to be exposed later as false. You see, progressives could really care less what the current president says because liberals continue to mistakenly buy into the myth that government has the answer for virtually every societal problem and issue imaginable.

That's why it's not news to you--unless it's a conservative president who misleads---then it's BIG NEWS worthy of being splashed all over the major news networks!

Anti Government
Alpine, UT

Another day and yet another manifestation of the incessant lying we get from government leaders. The supposed President himself no less.

I sincerely wish voters would wise up. If a politician speaks then you should understand he/she is doing one of two things:

1. Telling you what you want to hear to get your vote to secure money and power for themselves.

2. Making promises (at your expense) to donors to get money in exchange for legislation.

People need to understand that the best government leader is one that knows he is going to be there one term until they get voted out...regardless of party affiliation.

We all know the longer they stay the more corrupt they become the more they owe the more they "fudge" the truth the more power the seek and the more deals they arrange to financially benefit themselves after they leave office.

Vote them ALL out every term and maybe just maybe we can have someone who takes office with good intent actually follow through on what they said they would do and do it for the right reasons.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Doesn’t matter what excuses BO apologists come up with. BO said:
"If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period."

ordinaryfolks
Doesn’t matter if doctors or hospitals could choose to leave a plan before Obamacare. “…you will be able to keep your doctor. Period” means, you will be able to keep your doctor. See, the “period” is there for emphasis.

Maybe BO didn’t read nancy’s bill before he signed it.

I guess now the apologists will say they were junk doctors anyway, and the Obamacare doctors are better – same as their excuse for people losing their plans – they were junk plans

I also read on Yahoo that the BO misadministration gave a $1.2 BILLION contract to a BRITISH company to administer Obamacare sign-ups. The same company is under investigation in the UK for bilking the British government out of tens of millions of pounds. They are paying people to stare computer screens and do NOTHING but refresh the screen every 10 minutes. Do a search for Serco. Wonder how much they gave to BO’s election campaign?

ordinaryfolks
seattle, WA

@Cletus

I did not defend the President. I do not defend the past or current for-profit insurance business. Nor do I have anything to relate to your screed about the Bush lies.

I merely point out that I have had to change doctors because my insurance did not chose to keep the doctor I had as an in network provider BEFORE "Obamacare". It is a false criticism of current law to make the inference that this would never have happened before "Obamacare". It happened to almost everyone at some point.

I pointed out that insurance companies are in the business of generating profit. BEFORE or AFTER "Obamacare" this is the system we have, which I doubt will change much. Being the good conservative you seem to be, you must surely applaud the insurance industry's claim to profit, even when that profit might come at the expense of you personal health preferences and needs.

Whatever your problems with the President may be, you certainly can not dispute what I have said.

Brio
Alpine, UT

If people think there are now a lot of customers with buyers remorse over Obamacare signups, just wait until the 2nd and bigger phase of Obamacaree kicks in later this year. Things will get much, much worse.

The president readily knows that. And that's the precise reason he delayed implementation of it until after this next Congressional election. Had he not, so many voters would be so disgusted with Obamacare that nary a Democrat running would be reelected.

In fact, many Congressional Democrats are distancing themselves from the President as fast as they can. And not just over Obamacare. His stance on the Keystone pipeline and other energy issues is currently hurting the democrats in the eyes of most of America.

Vanceone
Provo, UT

Eagerly awaiting the liberals to tell us how less choice and more expense for less care is progress and better than what we had before.

GZE
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Talk to your doctor. Several years ago, my employer changed providers and I got stuck with one that didn't cover my dentist. I went and talked to him and he signed up with the carrier; he had several patients with the same issue.

25 years ago, my employer changed plans and did not cover my pediatrician. I spoke with him and he signed up -even though he absolutely hated the carrier.

Good doctors want to care for their patients - especially the long term ones.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey "Conservatives"

Obviously people should do their due diligence before they select an insurance plan.

You shouldn't expect the government to do everything for you.

Americans should be able to exercise some independent thought, don't you think? . . . And not blame the government for their own failure to behave in a reasonable manner.

It seems to me that Right Wingers far too often look for scapegoats, when they should take responsibility for their own actions or lack of action.

I'm glad I could help.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@lost in DC
"I also read on Yahoo that the BO misadministration gave a $1.2 BILLION contract to a BRITISH company to administer Obamacare sign-ups. The same company is under investigation in the UK for bilking the British government out of tens of millions of pounds."

We have a federal law (largely to prevent favoritism of which you later accuse) that requires many things be contracted out to the lowest bidder, but then we seem to be stuck with cases of getting shoddy results.

Anti Government
Alpine, UT

@ordinaryfolks

I will dispute what you said....If your insurance removed your doctor as an option you could have simply changed plans and followed your doctor if you so chose. Not only that did your insurance company stand up in front of national TV and profess 30 plus times (in an effort to con/deceive you into buying their policy) that they would never change your doctor?

So what if it was done before. The point is the President knowingly lied and deceived to get the legislation passed so they he could access other peoples money to give/subsidize to others who previously did not have in nothing more than a bald faced effort to buy their votes.

They get access now thanks to who? That is what he is banking on (taking credit) and he gets everyone else to pick up the tab for it so he can finance his and other democrats campaigns with it.

If a politicians mouth is moving they are lying. Bank on it. I'm just tired of paying for their pet projects to give others something for nothing.

My now catastrophic insurance is terrible AND much more expensive.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Ted Cruz, Mike Lee and other conservatives tried and tried to warn the American people! November can't come quick enough when we can finally say goodbye to the Harry Reid fiascos!

Mark from Montana
Davis County, UT

When I was shopping for a plan, I found one I liked through IHC. However I found that my doctor could not take that insurance because IHC would not let them. I was basically told by Select Health that they only wanted their own doctors to be used for business reasons. That was unacceptable to me and my wife so we found a different plan that was just as good that allowed us to use our current doctors. I have decided that I will never use IHC if I can avoid them. I have heard other 'business' decisions they have made and find them to be less than 100% ethical, in my opinion.

Iron Rod
Salt Lake City, UT

For those who in the past have refused to carry insurance, I am getting a little tired of my insurance paying inflated prices when you have serious medical problems that you are unable to pay for and the hospital "eats" the bill.

Hospitals are businesses and if they are not able to get revenue from one source they simply increase the cost to other sources who are able to pay.

As one who had an immediate family member treated for cancer with out insurance it would be difficult for me to pay all the bills associated with the treatment.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey Vanceone –

Yes, Obmacare is “progress and better than what we had before.” Nice phrase. I couldn’t agree more.

But what the author found is troubling.

“Before the law took effect, experts warned that narrow networks could impact patients' access to care . . . “

Gosh, even with repeated warnings, people neglected to confirm the plans they selected would be accepted by health care providers.

Obviously people should do their due diligence before they select an insurance plan.
You shouldn't expect the government to do everything for you, should you?

Americans should be able to exercise some independent thought, don't you think? . . . And not blame the President or the government for their own failure to behave in a reasonable manner.

It seems to me that "Conservatives" far too often look for scapegoats, when they should take responsibility for their own actions or lack of action.

Don’t you agree?

I'm glad I could help.

Brahmabull
sandy, ut

You forgot to add the part where the insurance was going to be AFFORDABLE. Well, it is far from affordable. Over $600 a month for mediocre coverage for a family of 3 is nowhere close to affordable.

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