dontcha just love freedom of speech ?chowder-headed studentsworse are teachers/professors who would censordo we have
freedom of choicewho chose, who approved of these speakers ?by all means, never listen to the opposition !something may
enter one ear and fall out of the vacuum inside thru the other
Higher education just keeps getting lower and lower as it sinks toward a
propaganda mill rather than a place for critical thinking.
@ GaryO:Since Hillary Clinton voted, while in the Senate, to
authorize and fund the Iraqi war, she is just as accountable and complicate as
GW and/or any other politician who also voted for it. But somehow, I doubt
you'll see it that way, since you've never once criticized any
Democrat over any issue on any of these comment pages. At least not that
I've seen. Nor did you mention any of the other Democrats who voted for
that particular war with your list of names in your comment to this article. Why
is that? Are party politics involved?So please tell us what exactly
is your take and opinion on Hillary and other renowned liberal Democrats who are
on record for their active involvement in pushing for and funding the Iraqi war
that you continually criticize only the Republicans for? This is a test of your
Dixie Dan,"Strange but only BYU would give an honorary Doctorate
degree to Chaney for being a "true American" and have him as their
commencement speaker."Apparently, many American
"Conservatives" believe that true Americans push the nation into war
under false pretenses and murder thousands of people.GW, Condie,
Cheney, and the rest of the Bush Administration are all "true Americans"
by those criteria.
As to the issue of students and some faculty getting their knickers in a knot
over who speaks at a graduation, it appears that American colleges and
universities are going the way of European and Latin American schools - mob rule
and weak kneed administration. As to the harping over VP Cheney
speaking at BYU, did anyone ever do their homework on this one? The University
wanted to show a balance in political speakers. That same year, Senator Harry
Reid, D-NV was to speak at a devotional, so if the Majority Leader is to have a
chance to address the University community and have a potential national moment
in the sun, then the Vice President of the US who presides over the senate would
be a nice balancing act.It was politics, IMO.Ah, youth,
ever willing to share their ignorance and lack of experience with the world.
First, I find the commencement speech dumb. But even dumber is the mob
mentality that is taking place with the choice of speakers. I have no patience
for "liberal fascism."
@ Dixie Dan:Kudos to BYU for valuing and listening to a diversity of
ideas in America instead of just diversity skin color, which is all the current
agenda of most colleges is allowing. The scope of this article proves as much.
Liberals (and most colleges are very liberal) want tolerance, but
only if it entails a complete agreement with their ideas and agenda. Otherwise,
you will protested completely out. It seems quite hypocritical.
Willem: Your comment makes no sense. By your logic, anyone who sends troops to
fight is guilty of their deaths. Does that means that US leaders (ie. Roosevelt
and Truman) who sent US troops to oppose Hitler and Tojo are guilty and should
have been held accountable for all of the deaths of US soldiers and the Germans
and Japanese who were killed in WWII? Is Obama guilty of the deaths of US
soldiers and Afghan civilians in Afghanistan? Should he be held responsible? At
what point do you sit around and do nothing and at what point do you take action
to defend democratic principles? Do you wait until a foreign power actually
sets foot on US soil and Americans start to die before you take action? And if a
leader were to take action to protect you and other Americans from a threat,
would you hold them accountable for any deaths that might occur?
Willem and Dan,you do realize there were a lot of dems that voted to
authorize the use of force in Iraq, including presumptive dem candidate hillary.
Do not THEY need to answer for those deaths as well?
Exactly right liberty or...?! These guys are part of the leftwing ninny cabal,
who thoughtlessly recite leftist propaganda. You can't get anymore mindless
Willem & Dixie you do realize that the death toll has actually been more
under President Obama than under the 8 years of Bush and Chaeney combined
because of his indifference and placating to terrorists not to mention the
deaths in Syria,Libya,and Egypt during the Arab spring? If Bush was impeachable
and prosecutable for some of his decisions you better take a look at your
current president that has no less than 76 impeachable law violations not
including the scandals of Benghazi, IRS, running guns to mexico etc. I
don't care which side you fall on but this burn the witch mentality of
anyone who doesn't agree with you has got to stop. Or are our students
nothing but organized mobs now for whatever political issue comes along? Warning
today you might be part of the mob tomorrow your its target.
I didn't attend my commencement 40 years ago. I had to work that day.
Note to Willem: How could you leave our Dick Chaney? Strange but only BYU
would give an honorary Doctorate degree to Chaney for being a "true
American" and have him as their commencement speaker.
Ms Rice and Bush are responsible for the death of 100000s of our soldiers and
Iraques, they need to account for that.
If Hitler or Pol Pot were to speak, I would consider fortunate if I could
attend. Mostly I'm curious what motivated them to do what they did.
I'd hope to be able to hear their heart felt justifications. To see their
deeds from their perspectives. I guess today's students are more interented
in making a statement than in getting a nuanced education.