So what does that teach us then, worf? Not to listen to politicians and athletes
when it comes to issues of science. Also it is not wise to listen to pundits in
matters of science, nor people that have gut feelings or say they know because
they claim to have common sense. Oh yeah, and don't listen to people that
comment on message boards of newspapers. So then who should we listen to?
Obviously the researchers that study the issue. And they say AGW is real,
it's a problem, and the impacts from it are occurring right now, and most
likely will get worse in the future. So yes worf, don't listen
to politicians, listen to the people who study the issue.
An athlete can get on TV and endorse a product he knows nothing about.People will believe and buy. Some athletes do this for thirty millions
dollars, and the product company still makes a ton of money, because people
believe the athlete, whether he knows the product or not.The same
can be said of politicians. Make one popular, and people will believe the words
coming from their mouths. It's crazy.If a politician say cows
cause air pollution, or driving pick-ups causes earthquakes, there are those who
would believe. LOL.
Vera: I guess I need a little more info concerning your call about or cracked,
and continuing to crack, table.Was this to be an instore refund or
something else?Regards John Totten
I'm impressed by the high level of meteorological knowledge displayed in
comment after comment by readers who have skimmed self-confirming blogs and
industry ad copy. Why can't scientists in every country of the world have
your same level of a priori certitude?
If there is global warming does anyone really believe that we, the Human race
can do anything about it? There have been many warmings and coolings in the
past, and the Human race was not even around or involved with it. The planet
will do what it wants in spite of our presence here. And if we put too much
junk into the air, or ocean, ect. the planet has a way of balancing the books.
The climate has never been static. It has changed ever since the dawn of time.
Sometimes things change for the better. Sometimes for the worse.I
want clean air and water. I try to conserve energy when I can (for both
environmental and economic reasons). But what disturbs me most about this whole
"global warming" scare is that powerful people are trying to gain more
money and power by scaring everyone into believing that drastic things will
happen if we don't cave into their demands now.The truth is, we
have no idea if giving them this money and power will do anything to help
prevent change. Other than lining their own pockets and controlling our lives,
they will do nothing to stop what is happening. We don't even
know if a planet that is a couple degrees warmer in 100 years will be a better
planet or a worse one. Politicians and scientists love to point out every bad
thing on the planet and say it is because of global warming. They ignore all the
good stuff and never attribute it to global warming. Why is that, I wonder?
Not only is the Government using scare tactics, there is reason to believe that
they are also creating the extreme weather.
"I just can't support these "green energy" movements because
they're so full of psuedo-science and naivety. Flooding was going to
destroy the world almost two decades ago because of artificial global warming,
"Janecmeyer, perhaps you can show us where anybody claimed
"flooding was going to destroy the world." But while you are looking for
that quote read this:"nearly 2 feet of rain fell on the Florida
Panhandle and Alabama coast in the span of about 24 hours, the latest bout of
severe weather that began with tornadoes in the Midwest."-NPR, Hundreds
Rescued From Flooding In Florida Panhandle, by THE ASSOCIATED PRESS, May 01,
2014"Two major tributaries of the Suwannee River -- the
Withlacoochee and the Alapaha -- set new flood records earlier this week."-
USGS, Historic Flood Crest Flows Down Suwannee River, 04/15/2009 2:32:33 PM"The Front Range of Colorado is reeling from the biggest—and
probably most destructive—flash flood in the region’s history,
thanks to a storm that dropped a year’s worth of rainfall in about 24
hours."-Everything that led to Colorado’s record-breaking flood, and
why it will only get worse, By Eric Holthaus @EricHolthaus September 14, 2013
These same people advocated dumping soot on the polar ice caps in the 70's
to melt them to avoid the coming ice age. All these predictions are based on
computer models. Garbage in, garbage out.
@MarxistOf course we all care. Nobody wants polluted water or air.
The problem with the climate change/global warming disciples is that they just
are not believable. In the mid-1970s the dire warnings were about global
cooling. Go look it up. It is uncanny how similar the language they used to
describe global cooling is to the language they use now. But here are probably
the biggest red flags that I see in this whole debate. Climate change believers
have coined a new name for skeptics: deniers. And, in their minds, a denier
akin to a Holocaust Denier (See Sir Paul McCartney's statements.)
Secondly, they say "the science is settled. We don't have time for
debate." The science is almost NEVER settled and especially on something
like our complex climate. Finally, the biggest prophet of this new religion is
Al Gore. That speaks volumes. He's a hypocrite politician who uses huge
amounts of fossil fuels fly around on private jets and has at least two
different homes. How can I possibly take him seriously?
We all need to take some time to study this issue, myself included. Most of us
are asserting out ideologies in this debate, rather than discussing the
scientific merits of various points of view. I am getting pretty
old. It's not going to make a whole lot of difference to me personally
who's right. But what if the report is right? What kind of world will my
posterity live in? Does anyone else here care?
I am surprised this report is coming out of this administration. In Obama's
first inaugural address he told us he would heal the planet. We will
be just fine. Obama is our man, and he is on it.
Where is all this coastal flooding from melting icebergs? I've been
hearing about it for forty years.If campaign promises were kept, we
would have a seventeen trillion dollar surplus rather then deficit.No matter what our political leaders do, or say, many will not learn, and
follow like sheep.This has happened through out history, and why
over ninety percent have lived in poverty.
@DavidO:Our country has problems because people believe things which
are not true. Like sheep!This country is seventeen trillion dollars
in debt because people believed the false rhetoric of campaign speeches. Only those who believe false propaganda, with no good sense, and
reality, and choose to be guided by Left Wing "pundits" like Al Gore,
will accept climate change. Pathetic!
And one day the Sheep look up.I like Concinnity comment "then
until China agrees to join the rest of the civilized world in taking drastic
action, then nothing else will count for much". Now lets look at this
another way, China CO2 emissions per person 61781 compared to US 175043 (2010) I
wonder how much of China's emissions come from filling containers bound for
America, Europe etc? It is a bit rich blaming others without looking
in the mirror first or Matt 7:5 Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of
thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy
brother's eye.Predictions for 2014/5 are settling on another
Super El Nino like 1997/8, will the sheep look up then I wonder?
Hey Worf -"Are we a nation of sheep? "Only those
who deny science, good sense, and reality, and choose to be guided by Right Wing
"pundits" like Rush Limbaugh.What do "Conservatives"
find so fascinating about that drug abusing sheep herder anyway?
Every time there's any flooding or drought, or if any given season is
colder or warmer than "average", or if the estimated sea level ever
changes, it's because people are cooking with fires and burning coal. As
soon as the greedy immoral Americans realize they're destroying the planet
and stop flexing their economic muscles, the world will be saved.I
like using resources wisely. I like making use of various energy sources,
self-sufficiency, breathing clean air and drinking clean water. I care a lot
about these things. I can't stand wasting my resources. But I just
can't support these "green energy" movements because they're
so full of psuedo-science and naivety. Flooding was going to destroy the world
almost two decades ago because of artificial global warming, and since it
hasn't, these government-funded studies keep revising the timing and
symptoms to perpetuate fear and funding.
I am losing my hair and going bald, probably also caused by man made global
They have confused weather with climate. Climate hasn't changed -- nothing
going on is unprecedented or particularly unusual. This report is nothing short
of an attempt to gather money and power into the hands of a few who feel they
are "elite" and smarter and better than the rest of us.It
certainly isn't science.
There is no question that global warming and cyclical weather patterns are
happening. But like a sentence in the middle of this article states, "but it
is still uncertain how much of that is from man-made warming."These types of short and long term weather pattern changes have been happening
since before recorded history. And certainly long before mankind started using
fossil fuels on a larger scale. But it's still difficult if not outright
impossible to determine what percentage of it is caused by mankind and how much
is caused by Mother Nature. That's where all the guesses and politically
based posturing comes in. If someone has a related agenda, here's your
chance to use activist rhetoric. Even if much of the current changes
are people-caused (and I'm saying they are), then until China agrees to
join the rest of the civilized world in taking drastic action, then nothing else
will count for much. China is far and away the world's biggest polluter
with a population 4 times bigger than the United States. India comes in second.
But neither country has shown any interest in making economic sacrifices for the
"And then there's more pollen because of warming weather and the
effects of carbon dioxide on plants."Oh my, if a drought happens
its bad, but in the same breath, increases in plant growth is bad. Everything is bad according to this report. Heh, folks the earth has been
warming for 10,000 years.
More government control by scaring people on things which been occurring for
thousands of years.More laws equals increased control, and
poverty.Are we a nation of sheep?