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Published: Monday, April 14 2014 11:13 p.m. MDT

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1978
Salt Lake City, UT

@Understands Math

Just to be clear I agree with anti discrimination laws that protect people based on their identity. Forced participation in an event that violates someone's religous belief is what I oppose.

"doctors are allowed wide latitude in what procedures they perform based on freedom of conscience"

Exactly - I couldn't have said it better myself. Just replace the words doctor with baker or photographer and the word procedure with event.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

Re: Gary O: "A key point you seem to be missing is that in America NO religion has the right to call the shots and tell other Americans what to do."

Seems to be that Secular Humanism and Atheism are calling a lot of shots these days, and they seem to be fully supported by the Judicial and Executive Branches.

So I guess "separation of Church and State" is a subjective principle....

Demiurge
San Diego, CA

I can only assume that many of the people posting here would be fine with someone discriminating against them for your religion based on theirs. Where is America then, as we slide back into little groups discriminating against each other? If I decide that being Mormon or another minority religion is against my religion and ban them from my business you would be ok with that?

Understands Math
Lacey, WA

@1978:

"Exactly - I couldn't have said it better myself. Just replace the words doctor with baker or photographer and the word procedure with event."

So would you be okay with allowing a photographer to refuse to take pictures of a wedding between a couple of different races? Or do you think that businesses should only be able to refuse service to LGBT people?

Happy Valley Heretic
Orem, UT

Redwing said: "So I guess "separation of Church and State" is a subjective principle...."

Atheism is a religion like Not collecting stamps is a hobby.

What is it with Conservatives trying to label everything a religion?

Avenue
Vernal, UT

@LiberalJimmy
I find pro Obama liberals to be lacking in common sense more than conservatives who have not forgotten how our country was freed.

"(especially emanating from Tooele)" Seriously??

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

Heretic: Your comparison is simply not correct.

Belief in no God is just as much a religion as belief in a God. Neither can be proven with empirical evidence alone. You have "faith" that there is no God, just as I have "faith" that there is one.

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

RedWings, atheism is not a faith of there not being a god, it is the lack o a sense of a god. It is simply the zero base line of belive and/or faith in a god. It is a neutral .

1978
Salt Lake City, UT

@Understands Math

This is my final post on this article so I will summarize by expanding my last comment.

"Just to be clear I agree with anti discrimination laws that protect people based on their identity." This includes race, religion, sexual orientation etc. That answers your last question.

Now I have a few questions:

Is it O.K. to force this photographer to take pictures at a nudist wedding?

Is it O.K. to force this photographer to take pictures of an elective abortion?

Is it O.K. to force this photographer to covert to Islam to take pictures for a client who is visiting Mecca?

After all the Nudist, Abortion doctor and Adherent Muslim might become offended.

My solution - Find another photographer protect the first ammendment to the constitution.

antodav
TAMPA, FL

Words that ring hollow coming from a president whose administration has attacked religious freedom in this country at every opportunity.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

Esquire,
Correctly pointing out hypocrisy is responding with hate and cynicism? Nope.

Scientist
Regardless which side anyone falls on this issue, I think I have learned (again) not to underestimate the ability of liberals to spin and rationalize

Airnaut,
Doesn’t matter who BO was addressing, hypocrisy is hypocrisy

MichaelNemo
Your argument is based on the fallacy that marriage is not equal. When you base your argument on fallacy, you get fallacy. The SSM crowd DO infringe on religious rights.

Moontan,
Don’t waste your breath with liberals – even if you agree with 99% of their stand, disagreeing with the other 1% labels you a hater.

Schnee,
No indication does not mean he doesn’t. Remember, BO originally opposed SSM.

1aggie,
I condemn the religious intolerance that appears to be behind the attack at the community center. I also condemn the religious intolerance BO has shown in just about every law or judicial action he sought or opposed.

Rhappahannock
If you agree with the left you are a legitimate target

Understandsmath
The dates of the misnamed laws are irrelevant – those religious people had their rights violated.

GaryO
In America, NO ONE has the right to tell the religious to violate their conscience

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Red Wings -

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT


"Seems to be that Secular Humanism and Atheism are calling a lot of shots these days . . . "

Thinks so? I don't see it.

The "Wall of Separation," (as noted by Jefferson) is as strong now as it's ever been.

That's America.

Get used to it.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

lost in DC

Thanks for doing all the work.

RedWings
CLEARFIELD, UT

Skeptic: If atheism is neutral why do atheists do so many things to directly oppose religious belief? Those actions don't seem neutral at all.

Gary O: There are a number of items that show secular humanism has taken over our country. Here are just a few -

- Loosening of moral values
- Erosion of the family as the central support unit in society
- Reduction of fathers to mere caricatures and jokes
- Situational ethics
- Entitlements that are more desirable than hard work

Family, moral values, fathers as leaders of the home & community, work, and ethical certainty built this country. All were critically important to the First Continental Congress. All of these are now being systematically removed, and it is to our detriment and ultimate fall as a nation.

For a preview of the future of the USA, please see "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire". History repeats because we fail to learn its lessons..

The Scientist
Provo, UT

RG wrote:

"Doing business such as selling them bread in a bakery is one thing, but making a cake especially to celebrate a gay union is quite another."

Oh, I see. The problem is that the gay couple asked for the wrong pastry! They should have asked for a loaf of celebratory bread. It must be the fondant on the cake that makes all the religious difference?

Who knew?

lost in DC wrote:

"Scientist - Regardless which side anyone falls on this issue, I think I have learned (again) not to underestimate the ability of liberals to spin and rationalize."

I am not a liberal.

Never have been.

skeptic
Phoenix, AZ

RedWings, it is definite as neutral in believe/faith in there being or not being a god; not as neutral in action or reaction to persecution or defense against those who believe there is a god and their religious believes.

RFLASH
Salt Lake City, UT

It has been hard for me being gay. People sometimes don't realize how much we still believe in God and how important it is for everyone to belong. It is easy to get upset when thinking about this. I had a neighbor who threatened to blow my head off! Sometimes the person is doing it because of his own religious convictions! In his mind, I was worth nothing! I know that I have had to make changes in my life, but I still have a deep love for the church and I miss talking about God with others. I grew up Mormon. Maybe God gives us diversity to teach us how to love! One of the greatest things I was taught came from being Mormon. I do believe that we are all children of God and I remember being taught that we should treat each other that way. I distinctly remember feeling happy because I thought to myself " I can love anybody I want! "
I think that we can do more than just respect! We can share! Just because I am gay doesn't mean that you can't share your faith with me.

Willem
Los Angeles, CA

Religious intolerance and homophobia should no longer be tolerated in these United States of America the land of the free and the brave!

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