We are pretty excited about this.Means we won't have ER
"which one is the real mother?" static in the ER or doctor office. Means
we can buy a house as a legal couple, not as legal roommates. Means the state
will have to recognize us as a couple. Means... well... it means a lot. Thanks, Judge Black.
Agreed with @Tiago on how the curious angles the 'best interest of
children' are being played.To read the Ohio order, Google:
1-14-cv-00129-28.Unlike Utah, the Ohio case had as plaintiffs SSM
adoptive parents (meaning, they were legally married in NY, and legally adopted
a child from Ohio). The Ohio judge hammered home the Windsor reasoning that
children of legal SSM's are harmed if these kids are deprived of specific
rights and privileges due to unequal treatment of the child by the government
due solely to the gender of his/her legally married parents.A bit of
tangent: the current "Ask Angela" has readers provide guidance to a
woman wondering if she should marry a 'so-so' man (her words). Among
the 60 or so posts, there was only a single passing reference to parenting but
nothing re: the so-called "pro-creative" purpose of marriage. Instead,
woven throughout, the words: love, commitment, respect, happiness,
companionship, attraction. I mention this because Utah's legal briefs
play up the child-centric purpose of marriage but in this generous and
unfiltered discussion, readers share what they believe to be most important to
them in marriage.
rhappahannock,You're right, marriage should be looked at in terms of
children. Last Thursday, Utah's attorney, Gene Schaerr acknowledged
children of gay couples who marry legally and then move to Utah "would
likely be better off" if their parents were allowed to be legally married in
Utah.When Justice Kennedy wrote the majority opinion for the Supreme Court
decision to strike down DOMA, he wrote it "humiliates tens of thousands of
children now being raised by same-sex couples. The law in question makes it even
more difficult for the children to understand the integrity and closeness of
their own family and its concord with other families in their community and in
their daily lives."I have read the court filings and most of the
amicus briefs in the Utah case and am convinced legalizing same-sex marriage is
in the best interest of children.
@rhappahannockWashington, DCSociety has no responsibility to
lie and say that a person has XY chromosomes instead of XX just because the
person feels that way.6:25 a.m. April 15, 2014=========
When you figure out the difference between Same Sex attraction and
Gender Identity, get back to us.
So, rhappahannock, you want to make marriage between infertile couple illegal?
You want to make marriage between senior citizens illegal?And your
tales of abuse were pretty much performed by people who identify as
heterosexuals. For that matter, there's plenty of abuse that happens
between people of the opposite genders--so should we make heterosexual marriage
illegal for that reason?
I think it is sad that people feel a need to degrade others! people have a need
to tear others down, and because somebody feels I am inferior, I should have to
live my life according to how they view me! That is pathetic, if you think about
it!. I have been with my partner for 15 years and it has been good! My
life would have been empty without him! It just wouldn't have been the
same. Sorry that others have the belief that I am immoral, but I do not, and I I
don't believe that God gave them the right to decide something so
important. It is clear that much of what we find in religion is based on
prejudice and discrimination. There always has to be the bad guy! I don't
even try to change the beliefs of others. All of our lives we have been walked
on, and people know it. Think about the words that are used to describe gay
people. Do you know what is like to have people you care about degrade you in
this way? Many of us grew up among you and we do believe in God!
The posture of the little boy in this photograph speaks volumes.
I think marriage needs to be looked at in terms of children. While gay
protesters were violently protesting a church service in San Francisco, they
chanted "We want your children. Give us your children." There have been
g-y sex abuse scandals involving preists, scout leaders, coaches and teachers.
Society has no responsibility to encourage sexual behavior that is
not biologically sound. Society has no responsibility to lie and say that a
person has XY chromosomes instead of XX just because the person feels that way.
Later in the day -- but early enough for the DN to have updated it if they
wanted, the judge made the obvious ruling.I think it would be great
for the DN to be helping its readership understand that marriage equality is
inevitable, and that denying it to the many, many thousands of lds born Gay
denies them an equal place in the church and community to their siblings.However, I understand that in some religions, people and newspapers can
speak up with "Pope, please talk to God and find a better way", but lds
people believe that they cannot call the attention of the prophet to issues,
that only God speaks to him.Is it stupid for a gentile to say
"Please press the prophet to talk more to God on this"?
"... arguing that Ohio has a sovereign right to ban gay marriage, which
voters did overwhelmingly in 2004."--- Unless, of course, you do
it in violation of the US Constitution's protections for ALL American
Citizens.The march of equality will not be stopped.
Freedom will not be stopped.