Thanks for the positive outlook towards the end. And for those who were there at
the attack, thank you for your courage and calmness. The angels will have
unquestioningly recorded your courage in the Book of Life. May God bless you
We should legalize grenades and automatic rifles. People will kill people with
whatever, so we might as well not try to keep them from getting powerful
weapons. Lets just give them easy access to the things that are most dangerous.
I think that will make things better.
Before the next genius comes on this board and makes wise sarcastic remarks
about "knife control" and "banning all assault knives" could I
make on request. Could we have a comparison chart showing the number of school
kniving attacks compared to the number of incidents involving pistols, shotguns,
assault weapons etc? Then when you've shown that, you can feel free to make
your nonsensical comparisons.
Re EliyahuThese victims are even more fortunate a fire extinguisher
filled with gasoline wasn't used. Take guns or knives away and bad people
intent on killing others will then make use of other tools to do the job it is
they want to do.
Despite all of the slippery slope/strawman arguments here, the victims are
fortunate that the kid didn't have a gun. If he did, we would certainly be
reading about multiple fatalities and not just knife wounds today. What is the
point of those arguments? That we should do nothing and allow people to carry
any sort of weapon they can find just because someone who wants to hurt other
people will find a way to do it?
Wow! I can't believe it happened in a "Knife Free Zone".
Had gasoline or a pressure cooker bombs been used we might be reading about
close to a hundred dead not just 20 injured and two or three close to death. Yet
even this fact is not enough to ban the use of gasoline or pressure cookers
among the general population. Again we must approach this issue as we should all
problems. Using reasoning and cool headed logic. Its bad people who are the
problems. Not the tools at their disposal.
No. . . . knives should not be banned or restricted. I can't believe
what I am reading. A knife is just a tool. There are probably a dozen things in
any house that could be used to injure or kill someone. Were we to get rid of
all these things, how would we drive to work? How would we cut our meat? How
would our kids play baseball? How would we do home repairs? Let's use our
heads people. Let's deal with the root causes and not restrict any and
every possible tool that could be used to hurt someone.
@BrahmabullBut why make everyone else defenseless? Why make it
easier for the perpetrator?Defenseless zones show no common
sense.Defenseless zones have not stop a single perpetrator from
perpetrating their crime. But have only served to endanger everyone else.Waiting 30 or 40 minutes for policeman to show up does help anyone.Death or injury people are still defenseless.
Again, it is the person who does the act, not the object. I get that. But if
that evil person has access to a more deadly weapon (gun) then the consequences
and fatalities of a certain incident will rise dramatically. I would think that
responsible gun owners would be in favor of more gun control - meaning
controlling people that shouldn't have guns from having them. Sure,
criminals will get guns no matter what. But why make it easy for them by
allowing a gun show to sell guns without giving background checks? That is
ludicrous to me. Do I want a criminal to go in to a gun show and get a gun? Heck
no! They would then be out on the streets with that weapon. If you are a law
abiding citizen then that gun show loop hole would not affect you. This is the
part that I don't understand, why are people against stopping criminals
from having easy access to guns?
Kudo's to the Assistant Principal.Nice Work Sir.
Flashback: I got your sarcasm right off the bat! Excellent job! I'll only
add that guns can run out of bullets but a knife doesn't need reloading,
doesn't get jammed & it is not difficult to use. When these horrible
things happen, the gun is always the first to get any blame and the anti-gun
crowd cry for more restrictions. We as a nation need to turn back to God &
reverence life to cure what is really at the heart of these attacks, not limit
On the damage scale it's knife -> gun -> machine guns -> cruise
missiles.Just because we ban something on the far right of the scale
doesn't mean everything has to be banned to the left of it. Just because we
don't ban something on the far left of the scale doesn't mean
everything to the right has to be unregulated as well. Use some common sense and
not slippery slope logical fallacies.
So when a gun magazine touts a particular tactical (assault) rifle as being
especially accurate and tightly grouped in rapid fire, they really mean
it's the same as a butter knife.
The carnival barkers are showing up to turn this tragedy into an argument
against gun-control. Misguided.If anything, it proves gun control
advocates right. All of the victims are still alive. If the assailant had a
gun, parents would be going to the morgue today to identify bodies instead of
the hospital to take their children home.
I guess none of you recognize sarcasm. Had this tragedy been perpetrated with a
gun the anti-gun voices would have been loud and long. Bottom line,
evil people do evil things and as in this case, used an inanimate object to
pepetuate their evil.
Better have background checks for knives now libs. This proves that it is the
person and not the weapon.
My point is that the "Hey, man. You can kill somebody with a letter
opener" argument is irrelevant, including today. And I didn't scream
about anything, either.
@ Flashback - Kearns, UT - "That evil knife. It should be banned. We need
knife control, now! We need bracelets that track the use of the knife. Another
question, was the knife an assault knife or just a steak knife? Was the knife an
assault knife with a blade over 6 inches long? That's a high capacity knife
which should be banned. The blade should only be allowed to be 4 inches long. We
should also have a knife lock put on all knives. The knives should be stored in
a safe so kids can't get to them. There should be criminal and civil
penalties to adults that allow kids access to these knives."Buddy, you took the words right out of my mouth....I'm sorry
that this violent attack occured but 'Flashback' got it exactly right.
And yet, still, the liberals in the messed up country refuse to see the truth
right in front of them...
Flashback is right.Robby, Brahambull - No one is saying a gun
isn't more dangerous, but Flash still has a point.If the
typical anti-gun argument is the most dangerous types of guns can do more damage
than the less dangerous types of guns, the argument also applies here. More
dangerous(longer, sharper) knives can do more damange.Yes, if the
Sandy Hook guy went in with a knife there would have been less casualties.And if this guy had gone in with a butter knife there also would have
been fewer injuries.And if we can prevent deaths by outlawing more
dangerous guns, why not outlaw more dangerous knives which can have the same
Mark B...A knifes use is to cut. Many knives are used safely on a daily
basis.A guns use is to shoot a bullet. Many guns are used DAILY and many
thousands of rounds of ammunition are shot DAILY without injury or death.His point was not that everything needs equal regulation but that a
horrendous act happens with a knife, and no one points a finger at the knife.
But when it happens with a gun, everyone freaks out and screams GUN BAN.
I believe Flashbacks point was... it is not the instrument but the individual
that is responsible and that is the problem.After the attack, no one
talks of banning knives, that would be a stupid thought...But after
every gun attack, all you hear is ban ban ban.No one is saying guns
aren't more deadly than knives.
@ FlashbackThe only reason the headline reads "20 injured"
instead of "20 dead" is because the kid didn't have a gun. Guns can
be used from far away, and can fire at a much faster rate than some can stab
with a knife. I know this is difficult to understand, but stay with me here,
mmkay? A knife, unless you have some sort serious ninja skills, typically must
be used at close range and that gives others the advantage of tackling an
attacker. Kind of almost...wait, no, EXACTLY what happened here.
Best wishes for a full recovery for those hurt in this senseless act.Unfortunately, any violence with any object seems to generate posts implying
that since there are no special laws regarding the violent use of knives, autos,
hardware or falling pianos, that even thinking about trying to reduce gun
violence is useless and unfair to gun owners who are tasked by the Constitution
itself with protecting us from would-be dictators in our own country. What makes this thinking poor logic is that even rocks, as well as knives and
pianos have other uses. Auto use has many regulations designed to make traveling
safer for all, and with success.Our question should continue to be
"What can we do to make things safer?" No, things will never be
perfectly safe. But it's silly to think we must regulate either nothing or
Thank you brave sir robin, I'd heard the term straw man and your comment
made me research the term. thanks.
A few years ago a man murdered an entire family in this area with a hammer. If
an evil person is intent on violence, no gun control laws will stop him, period!
Knives, pressure cooker bombs, baseball bats or hammers will do.
@FlashbackThat is the worst straw man argument I've ever heard.
Sure, you can kill anybody with just about anything, but it's far easier
to kill a lot of people quickly with a gun. If Adam Lanza had walked into Sandy
Hook with a knife instead of a gun, most or all of those kids and teachers would
still be alive today.
FlashbackI am as pro gun as anybody, but you know as well as I do
that if this were an assault rifle attack instead of a knife attack we would
most likely be dealing with multiple fatalities instead of just injuries. Knifes
can kill - no doubt about it. But guns are much more lethal and the odds of
surviving a high powered rifle round are much less then surviving a knife wound.
Either way, I don't know what is going on with people in this
country and why they are snapping and attacking others. It is pathetic.
Like guns, knives are banned in school. Please show some respect
for the injured, as well as anyone else for whom these attacks are a terrible
reminder of the loss of a loved one due to violence.
Best to wait for more details before commenting on this.
That evil knife. It should be banned. We need knife control, now! We need
bracelets that track the use of the knife. Another question, was the knife an
assault knife or just a steak knife? Was the knife an assault knife with a
blade over 6 inches long? That's a high capacity knife which should be
banned. The blade should only be allowed to be 4 inches long. We should also
have a knife lock put on all knives. The knives should be stored in a safe so
kids can't get to them. There should be criminal and civil penalties to
adults that allow kids access to these knives.