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Published: Tuesday, April 1 2014 8:05 p.m. MDT

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Barack said several times if someone wanted to keep their plan they could keep it.

Just another failed promise from barack.

Hard to believe anything this guy says anymore.

Some example he is of a "leader" for our country

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

I think this is a great moment for those who desperately need coverage and could never get it without the ACA. The enrollment has exceeded expectations which is miraculous considering the rocky start and all the naysayers.

Brio
Alpine, UT

Hitting the 7 million mark for enrollees means very little. Especially considering there are over 300 million people still not using the system. That means only 2% of the country will initially be participating.

And if the balance isn't right within that 7 million, that is, if there aren't enough young, healthy enrollees to compensate for the older, less healthy people who use insurance a lot, then the federal government will have to dramatically subsidize Obamacare. That alone would be reason enough to want to repeal it.

Other reasons are yet to be more widely discovered. Like how much more it will cost people who previously had health insurance. It will actually double in cost for many. And how frustrating the huge deductibles will be, making this primarily catastrophic health insurance. And many people will soon discover their preferred doctors won't be available to them... a major frustration.

There's a valid reason Obama postponed the deadline for most people to sign up until after the next election. He knows it won't be popular and will cost the democrats politically. Big time. However, this program is his bread and butter... his signature "achievement".

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Rush and Sean Hannity failed again. Although he did educate a lot of people by ranting against this for four years continuously.

Church member
North Salt Lake, UT

Is there anything that this president could do to make the right happy? Sometimes I don't think there is.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Don't know how this event is not getting more coverage today given the press (mostly negative in the DN) its been receiving for months. Given the current, partisan, political state of our country passing and implementing this law has been an incredible feat by the administration. After 50 votes to overturn the law and imposing a 28 billion dollar goverment shut down on our country, the question we should ask of our GOP leaders today is, "how would you like your crow served"?

David
Centerville, UT

I am curious to know who presented the 7.1 million enrollment numbers? Obama? Sebelius?

We all want our country to be successful, prosperous, with happy people. We all want progress, cooperation, problem solving, and a strong nation. So if Obamacare is successful, if it really will provide health insurance to more Americans while lowering the cost of health care (including insurance premiums) then I will support it.

But, I do not trust this administration. I would like an independent audit of those numbers. How many enrollees are actually paying? How many are receiving a subsidy, and if so, how much? How much did the government pay for Obamacare (all costs)? And is that investment worth what we are getting, and will it be worth it 5 years from now?

How much have premiums really gone up?

How much has health care really gone up or down since implementing Obamacare?

Until we have an independent analysis, most Americans don't and won't trust this administration and Obama. We've already been lied to.

derecha
Central, UT

How many of those 7 million are actual, previously uninsured people and how many have actually paid? I want to see the real numbers, because it seems quite conspicuous to me that they even got close to 7 million, which was their stated goal to achieve economic viability of the program, when at the end of the year they weren't remotely close.

Obi-Jon Kenobi
Layton, UT

"The bottom line is this: Under this law, the share of Americans with insurance is up, and the growth of health care costs is down. And that's good for our middle class, and that's good for our fiscal future," the president said.

. . . April Fool's?

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Brio, "Hitting the 7 million mark for enrollees means very little. Especially considering there are over 300 million people still not using the system. That means only 2% of the country will initially be participating."

What in the world does that mean? I presume you think everyone in the country should be using the federal and state exchanges. That's not even close to the truth. Probably well over 85% of the country will continue with their employer provided health care and will have no need for the exchanges.

Also according to a first analysis of these numbers the mix is doing fine. Plenty of healthy people to offset the sick. BTW they don't have to be young just healthy, and the group who was only buying catastrophic insurance previous to the law will probably fill the bill as their policies change.

Chancey
Sandy, UT

It seems interesting to me that as millions of recalls are issued by GM, that we are celebrating the ACA's signing up of only 2% of our population under threat of law today. The government involvement in the restructuring of General Motors has given us a terrible result. The government involvement in our health care can only do the same. The future will tell, but I believe will simply mirror the past record of the government providing things that take longer, require more paper work, cost more and satisfy less.

slcdenizen
t-ville, UT

We are a uniquely undeserving people in America. We have had more prosperity for more people than the world has ever known, yet still manage to maintain the capacity to be unhappy about our fellow citizens gaining access to our health care system. Congratulations, right-wingers. You still have the losing argument but have succeeded at making this victory somewhat bitter.

IMAPatriot2
PLEASANT GROVE, UT

Today is a fitting day for the POTUS and VPOTUS to stand before the American people and make this announcement. April 1st is such a versatile traditional holiday.

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

Nice move by the way DN burying this monumental story in the back of the paper.

Hate to tell you but Obama has beaten you all again.

And Chancey just what do you have against 7 million people either getting health care for the first time or getting affordable insurance that actually has coverage they can use and count on? Explain to those people why America is the "last" civilized country to provide a system where all of it's citizens can participate in the health care system on an equal footing and you oppose it.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Hey One Vote – “Rush and Sean Hannity failed again.” That depends on how you look at it. Their main goal was to earn millions for themselves by rousing Right Wing rabble. They did that. They are doing that. And they will continue to do that.

For exploiters like Limbaugh, Hannity, and others, America’s pain is their gain. They’re having a ball, and they’ll still make millions off of foolish Right Wingers, while they promote the goals of would-be plutocrats, like the Koch brothers, by encouraging people to sacrifice like peons so the wealthiest get richer at the expense of everyone else.

‘As messy as it's been sometimes, as contentious as it's been sometimes, it's progress,’ Obama said.”

Yep. But progress is what Right Wingers absolutely despise, because progress takes power from plutocrats and redistributes it to benefit America. To brainwashed poor and middle class Right Wingers, this tremendously beneficial law is an affront that must be eliminated.

A large segment of American society will not be happy until all hope of securing the Blessings of Liberty to themselves and their Posterity is completely destroyed.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

David - "We've already been lied to."

Yes, and nobody lies more than the Right Wing liars who make up huge lies about Obama's supposed lies.

Mark l
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Unfortunately, no matter how many people sign up for Obamacare, it will still fail. Every single citizen could be signed up and it will fail. Because doctors won't be able to afford to accept patients under the reduced payment plans. Then doctors will be made out to be evil and uncaring for not wanting to be paid. Then doctors will be made to be government employees. Then the quality of health care will plummet.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Quite the photo isn't it. Warms the heart to see Joe and Barack telling it like it is. I have one phrase "if you like your insurance you can keep your insurance ...period". So much for creditbility. Open the flood gates of propoganda for the waiting throngs of the cluess and ignorant. What a country.

TRUTH
Salt Lake City, UT

Fitting that Obama chose April Fools Day to make he his tragic speech touting his signature law that he has lied about for four years and had to rewrite dozens of times because they had to pass it before they could read it. Feel sorry for those who have to defend this guy.....November, we can put him out of our misery!

Stop The Nonsense
El Paso, TX

The real winners: all the shareholders of the (very lucrative) insurance companies. I wish I was selling a product that everybody was forced by law to buy...

How do people NOT see that it is because of health insurance that everything is MORE expensive? It adds overhead costs, it prevents people from knowing how much procedures will cost until AFTER they have been done, and it encourages people to get as many procedures done as their health insurance will cover (even though it means that everyone's premiums go up the next year in anticipation of additional reckless spending).

Ben Carson's idea to distribute Medicaid money directly into HSA's and let people pay out-of-pocket for healthcare would do wonders for our current system.

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