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Published: Monday, March 31 2014 12:00 p.m. MDT

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FatherOfFour
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

No one is suggesting that democrats represent a bunch of poor people. Everyone knows that the deep south and the midwest, some of the poorest areas in America, are solid republican. Everyone knows that the richer areas (New York, California, etc.) are solid democrat. The implication is that the republican party promotes policies catering towards the rich (like tax cuts for billionaires) whereas democrats promote policies for the middle-class (like a higher minimum wage, or increasing teacher pay). It is interesting though, as the author points out, those areas governed by democrats seem to have a much higher standard of living.

FT
salt lake city, UT

Nothing in the artile about education. Does more money indicate more education? Do the Democrats represent more districts where the constituents have more education? I'd be curious to know which party has more support of the intelluctual base in our country.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"Republicans are the party of the rich, right?"

Absolutely not. Republicans belong to the Party that kow tows to the rich, and they are willing to make sacrifices and compel their families to make sacrifices that promote the interests of plutocrats at the expense of everyone else.

Obviously not all wealthy people are greedy grasping individuals who try to make peons out of American citizens. The Koch brothers and their ilk are opposed by some decent wealthy Americans.

Fortunately, wealthy Liberals like Bill Gates, the richest man in the world, and Warren Buffet, the second richest man in America, and plenty of public-spirited wealthy individuals who run for public office are NOT Republicans, and they recognize the fact that the highest earners should be taxed much more than they are taxed now.

slcdenizen
t-ville, UT

@FT

A recent Pew poll indicated that less than 6% of scientists identify as Republican. It's not surprising due to the anti-intellectual wing that has steadily gained traction in the party. It was sad to see a worthy candidate like Mr. Romney downplay his stellar academic credentials and emphasize his business prowess in order to relate to the low-information, high-rhetoric conservative base during the last election. As a country, we've seen a steady decline in both overall literacy and STEM graduation rates. We need both parties to acknowledge our failure at preparing for our future and shift the debate toward first respecting, then pursuing higher education.

Area 52
Tooele, UT

Interesting choice of words Father of Four. The Republicans are for wanting less taxes for everyone while the Democrates want the Tax paying citizens to pay more in taxes. So, you really thinkg increasing the minimum wage is really going to help out the worker? So what does a small buisness owner suppose to do to offset the increase in wages? Layoff workers? Hire part-time workers with no benefits? Increase the cost of services for the customer? So, how exactly does increasing the minimum wage going to help long term? Sounds to me the small buisness owner will get hosed again.

Mark B
Eureka, CA

To FT: You don't have to look far. Take an area of the country closely associated with higher education (Boston, Berkley, even Austin) and compare it with another that isn't and the Democrats come out ahead - by a mile or two.

Craig Clark
Boulder, CO

For an Associated Press report, this sounds suspiciously like commentary.

Personal wealth is not always an indicator of priorities. FDR and JFK were both born to wealth and privilege. Yet the policies of both as President sought to bring greater parity for the lower income people and those who are struggling.

“If a free society cannot help the many who are poor, it cannot save the few who are rich."
- John F. Kennedy

anotherview
SLO, CA

Democratic legislators are advocating to raise taxes on themselves.

Nine of the ten poorest states are Red states.

Re:Area52
"The Republicans are for wanting less taxes for everyone "

Uh, no.
Remember the 47% who are characterized by Republicans as mere "takers?"

Area 52
Tooele, UT

Wow, in order to be considered educated or smart you now have to be a Democrat. I guess we will leave it up to all the smart Democrats to get us out of this predicament that the country is in. Oh by the way, didn’t Pres. Obama graduate from an Ivy league school and look how that is turning out. One other thing, Pres. Lincoln was a self-educated person and look how that turned out.

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@FatherofFour
"Everyone knows that the deep south and the midwest, some of the poorest areas in America, are solid republican."

I don't think they do know that. All the times it's asserted that Democrats win the vote of the 47% who pay no income taxes, those people don't realize that Romney won 8 out of the 10 states (Obama got New Mexico and Florida) that have the highest state percentages of people not paying income tax so it's not like he isn't getting a sizable chunk of that demographic.

@FT
"Do the Democrats represent more districts where the constituents have more education? "

Yes, at least with the outliers (like most of the northeast).

@Area 52
"Oh by the way, didn’t Pres. Obama graduate from an Ivy league school and look how that is turning out. "

We've gained private sector jobs 50 months in a row.

Area 52
Tooele, UT

@ Schnee

Your comment is flawed.

Curious why despite the huge miss in payrolls the unemployment rate tumbled from 7.0% to 6.7%? The reason is because in December the civilian labor force did what it usually does in the New Normal: it dropped from 155.3 million to 154.9 million, which means the labor participation rate just dropped to a fresh 35 year low, hitting levels not seen since 1978, at 62.8% down from 63.0%.

It's pretty simple, people are still not working. Any administration can "cook the books" and give the media/people any numbers they want.

slcdenizen
t-ville, UT

@Area52

"So, how exactly does increasing the minimum wage going to help long term?"

Our slow ecomomic recovery has uncovered the unstable structure of our whole system. The proposed wage increases are a short-term fix aimed at alleviating some poverty and reigniting our consumer-fueled economy. The arguments opposing minimum wage increases seem to be more about justice and fairness, rather than prescriptive and economically driven. If we raise the lowest paid workers' wages, they will certainly continue to spend all of their earnings, driving new business opportunities. Regarding your other question, small businesses that have no flexibility for adjusting costs like employee wages have no reason to continue to function. Or they can hire from among the plethora of MBA grads to rethink strategy. But the question I have is: why are the needs of small business owners any more important than those of wage earners. Why can't we debate the issue by referring to both as ecomomic agents and save the selective empathy for church?

t702
Las Vegas, NV

When did a poor person who make minimum wage ever hire another poor person? In the liberals mind, the guy who actually hire and put the poor person to work is to be taken down, economically that makes perfect sense, right?

RedShirt
USS Enterprise, UT

Another way to look at things is this way. If the person who is elected to congress reflects the voters within their districts what does that say about the Democrats?

It shows that they are out of touch with the poor people they claim to help. How well do you think Pelosi actually understands what it is like to be poor?

To "anotherview" lets look at it this way. Democrats want to give your hard work to the poor. Republicans want to get the poor to work to support themselves. Which do you want?

Area 52
Tooele, UT

@ slcdenizen

So, you would rather see large corporations come in and take over small companies because they (the large companies) can afford to pay thier employees the proposed minimum wage? That is some sound logic you have. Let's just keep small buisness's from growing and keep it up to the large corporations. What do you think the maain expenses are for small buisness owners or maybe even large ones? Wages are the number one expense!

Badgerbadger
Murray, UT

Republicans strayed from their constituents, and they are paying the price. Those true to the people are making a comeback in the party.

The democrats are as bad or worse. Their nakedness will soon be seen by their masses, although there are those who will not look because of the promise of crumbs, or because they are mesmerized by charismatic figures. But I think there will be many who see that the democrats are in bed with big money, worse than the republicans. The moderates/democrats are coming into the light.

slcdenizen
t-ville, UT

@Area 52

You mean, competition? Lol...

airnaut
Everett, 00

Mark B
Eureka, CA
To FT: You don't have to look far. Take an area of the country closely associated with higher education (Boston, Berkley, even Austin) and compare it with another that isn't and the Democrats come out ahead - by a mile or two.

10:10 a.m. March 31, 2014

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Agreed!

Seattle --

MicroSoft, Boeing, Amazon, REI, CostCo, etc.

Solid Democrat.
One of the Highest College graduate areas of the Nation.

Imagine that,
all those wealthy Democrats wanting [and paying] higher taxes,
creating wider Social safety-nets,
Higher paying High-Tech jobs,
living healthy, organic, tree-hugger life-styles,
the State giving "the people" the right to choose marijuana,
and increasing the minimum wage to $15.00 / hour!

And all with NO State income tax to boot!!

It's Outrageous!

worf
Mcallen, TX

Liberal Democrats have made fools of the American people. Making voters believe others are the cause of the mess they created. Who are the greedy wealthy folks?

Yep! And we pay for their lavish vacations, and lifestyle without knowing it.

They're a big contributor of the income gap. They are the ones who put us in a debt of 100,000 for every second of seven years. They are the ones who'll cause the collapse of our dollar.

Put on your seat belts.

Wonder
Provo, UT

My observation: There are rich and poor Republicans and Democrats. Poor Republicans tend to be less educated rural or suburban people and poor Democrats tend to be less educated urban people. In my experience, wealthier Republicans tend to be doctors or successful small business owners. Wealthier Democrats tend to be lawyers or executives in larger corporations. On a personal level, most of the Democrats I know are better educated than most of the Republicans I know. (i.e. have graduated from college or have an advanced degree.) Of course there are always exceptions. Regardless, I believe that the policies of the Democratic Party, in general, are more beneficial to the less advantaged and society in general than the policies of the Republican Party. I don't think trickle down economics works (as proven over the past 30 plus years), and I think that lifting the "least of these" in society benefits the entire society.

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