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Published: Saturday, March 22 2014 5:37 p.m. MDT

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Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

The Judge's Ruling is a beautiful thing to read.

It always surprises me that so few of those who are opposed to same-sex marriage read the rulings of the judges who uphold the right to same-sex marriage and then post comments acting like they have thought of something new or different that the involved state didn't argue and the judge didn't address.

All those who disagree with this judge's ruling should at least have the sense to read it so they know what they are objecting to and don't continue to make baseless arguments that have already been addressed and refuted.

Incite Full
Layton, UT

Those claiming these legal procedings have no effect on polygamy are woefully uninformed. Already Utah's own state law against Polygamy was struck down by federal judges last summer, due SPECIFICALLY to the Supreme Court rulings on gay marriage appeals.

Kalindra
Salt Lake City, Utah

@ Incite Full: There is not a single reference anywhere in the polygamy ruling to same-sex marriage or any of the same-sex marriage cases including those heard by the Supreme Court.

There are multiple references to Lawrence, which de-criminalized same-sex sex, but there are also many references to Griswold, which legalized birth control and which Lawrence was based on, and to Hialeah, which prohibited statutes prohibiting ritualized animal sacrifice and which was used to find that Utah's bigamy statute is not neutrally applied. If you are going to claim that Lawrence leads to polygamy, you must also claim that birth control and animal sacrifice lead to polygamy.

It is also important to note that Brown, the polygamy case in question, did not actually strike down laws against polygamy - it merely struck down the provision criminalizing cohabiting with one person while married to another person, particularly if criminal charges are only brought when the cohabiters claim religious benefits to doing so (this is where Hialeah comes in).

Polygamy - legally being married to more than one person - is still illegal.

Tators
Hyrum, UT

@ Kalindra:

You are proving once again that beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. As far as the reading of the judge's ruling goes, I found it to be very convoluted to read... something that shows he wants to jump on the bandwagon of political expediency and whatever is considered the current politically correct thing to do. And yes, it did buy him his 15 minutes of fame... just as intended.

When society finally learns it's lesson and discovers the longer-term negative effects that go along with homosexual marriages, especially regarding the rearing of children in most such relationships, the damage will have been done and many current proponents will then change their minds.
It's a sad fact that society often has to learn such lessons the hard way. But that's just how this will eventually play out, regardless of how anyone currently feels about it.

It's obvious you and other known liberals feel the judge's ruling was wise indeed. But as the Bible so poignantly states it, "The wisdom of man is foolishness unto God." Unfortunately, it usually takes awhile for mankind to realize just how true that really is.

Lane Myer
Salt Lake City, UT

tators: "When society finally learns it's lesson and discovers the longer-term negative effects that go along with homosexual marriages, especially regarding the rearing of children in most such relationships, the damage will have been done and many current proponents will then change their minds. "

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What we do know is that child molesters are allowed to marry and reproduce. What we do know is that murderers are allowed to marry and reproduce. What we do know is that wife and child abusers are allowed to marry and reproduce. What we do know is that there is a very high possibility for these people to harm their children.

What we don't know about the children who are growing up in gay families is not as little as you think. Check out what those who study these things have to say about gay parents. There are some pretty good references from some pretty well respected societies and associations that have done quite a bit of research on this. Read up on them.

And then tell my why we allow child molesters to marry and not two loving gay people.

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