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Published: Monday, March 17 2014 12:00 a.m. MDT

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worf
Mcallen, TX

Obama blew it when he took away the missile defenses, and downsized our military.

Who would stop Russia from taking all of Europe?

Should have listened to Mitt.

Thidder
MAPLETON, UT

I am sure these Russians are just quaking in their boots. Just think we are freezing their access to their petty cash funds. Want to witness a great nation in decline, follow Obama and his weak-knee approach. The U.S. now speaks softly and carries a wet noodle as punishment. A sad day for freedom, a great day for Obama.

G-Day-M8
WVC, UT

I'm not sure why Obama/Kerry can interfere and aid in the disrupting of the pro Russian Ukraine regime and the installation of the Pro Nazi regime and then turn around and punish Russia for trying to protect its own interest without incurring some very serious consequences to all peace on the planet and especially place the US in a no win situation.

It seams that Obama has been baiting the Russians into war with the Syrian crisis and now in the Ukraine.

Where is the wisdom and restraint that should prevail?

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Suggestions? Should we defend the poor people of Crimea--90% Russians--against their obvious and overwhelming desire to be part of their own nation again? What happened to the principle of self-determination? What difference does it make if Crimea joins Russia again? Most of the province was leased by Russia anyway. This whole discussion is ridiculous.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@worf

What would Mr. Romney have done to prevent Russia from taking Crimea? I see you that are a hawk who wants to go to war. You ready to pick up a rifle? You ready to send your sons to fight in another war in a far away land?

@Thiddler

What do you want the President to do? Do you expect a full-scale military invasion?

So many arm-chair, Monday morning conservatives out there with no actual ideas - just criticism. Let's hear your plans besides "we hate Obama" and "let's go to war."

G-Day-M8
WVC, UT

@CHS

Your use of the term conservative and others use of the word liberal is so much a part of the big picture problem. It's really just the Hegelian dialectic at work.

All of you so called or self labeled conservatives/liberals cannot see past your own narrow view points. The immediate past Bush administration and the current Obama administration are on the same exact course and that's the destruction of America.

The 13/14 year war in Iraq/Afghanistan has strung out our military to near disastrous consequences. Almost every reserve or guard unit in the nation has been deployed more than 3 or 4 times. For what purpose? The war on the constitution is in full battle dress and George Bush Jr referred to the constitution is a GD piece of paper. It is self evident every day that Barrack Obama is ignoring and seemingly intentionally disregarding his sworn duty to uphold it.

I think we have as many domestic enemies as foreign.

The red herrings, the straw men, the diversionary garbage is completely obscuring our vision of the real dangers and consequences.

God, help us, is my petition.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

That could help. A gradual application of pressure involving personal monetary loss might convince some of Russia's movers and shakers to use their persuasive skills on Putin.

Even if it works though and Russia gives up on the Crimea, Putin will try to save face somehow.

A good old fashioned military coup might be just the ticket to resolve the Putin problem.

I wonder now many wealthy top Russian brass have assets we can access?

Paddycakes
South Jordan, UT

When oh when will we learn to mind our own business. The US has illegally invaded Iraq and Afghanistan, yet we
hypocritically criticize Russia when we have done the same thing, only worse: we illdd thousands of Iraqis and the same in Afghanistan; additionally, we caused the illegal execution of a foreign leader, vis-a-vie, Sadam, who, by the way, never at any time threatened the US in any manner.

Too, we need to mind our own business, and heed the words of President Washington and the Monroe Doctrine: Stay out of the affairs/entanglements of foreign nations. Truly we are a double minded people.

Anti Bush-Obama
Chihuahua, 00

America deserves anything that happens to them. I'm so sick of them policing the world. No more war and mind your own business.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

This is all just the consequences of a weak America. We are weak because of Barack Obama and what strength we have left is in spite of his cuts. Russia has no fear of the US anymore. None. That is all on Barack Obama. Russia well knows what the cuts to our military mean for the future and so does China and they will increase their agressive land grab going forward as the US stands and watches ..and gives meaningless speeches at the UN. The financial sanctions won't do much ...Russia has Europe in their pocket with oil and gas. The US could be just as strong with oil and gas and independent of the middle east but we have a president who will not drill on public land or devolop pipelines or make use of the vast amounts of energy we have right here. Think also of the high paying jobs that would and could create. It is sad and sickening to watch this country decline like this but again...elections have consequences. If we were strong the likelihood of war is less. If we are weak the likelihood goes way up. Something to think about.

wer
South Jordan, UT

His hollow "threat" is far less dangerous than what he has been doing to the traditional family and people of Christian faith.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Patriot - When did the Russians fear America? And when did that fear cause them not to invade a nation?

Russia (the Soviet Union) gobbled up a good part of Eastern Europe after WWII, and when Hungary rebelled in 1996, the Russians brutally suppressed that rebellion with Red Army tanks literally rolling over Hungarians.

Are you actually recommending that America confronts Russia with military force?

Any claim that the US could replace Russia as an energy source for Eastern Europe in the near future is pure nonsense. Domestic oil and gas production has increased by leaps and bounds here in the US since Obama became President, but getting it to Europe would take a lot of money for infrastructure that has not been economically feasible for private industry to do.

Are you suggesting that the Federal government should build that infrastructure.

Apparently all Obama-hating Right Wingers can do is complain.

They certainly can't come up with any rational solutions to ANY problem.

All Right Wingers can offer is nonsense on top of more nonsense.

Strider303
Salt Lake City, UT

IMO we as a world including the US are plagued with a serious problem - we are almost all governed by a ruling class of people who see their role as controlling the masses. I include congress and state government. There may be exceptions but it appears to me that these people aspire to membership in the ruling class by proper schooling, election to minor office and then going along to get along and invited into the group from which they struggle to rise to the top.

They tell us what we want to hear, or they think what we want to hear, stifle dissent and work money and media to neutralize opposition.

That being said, I don't think the US in this weakened and fractured state politically, will do or is able to do anything of substance in this matter. Europe can't get their act together and will roll over.

The Chinese, and maybe India, will take notes and engage in adventures in their long term self interest.

Even if we, the people of the US wanted to do something, our leaders are incompetent to do much more than fill out their bracket sheets and hold press conferences.

mark
Salt Lake City, UT

"Obama blew it when he took away the missile defenses, and downsized our military."

worf, do you have a fear of Putin launching missiles at Poland? Downsized or military? Really? Care to tell us exactly what has been downsized and how that affects our military readiness and strength?

"Who would stop Russia from taking all of Europe?"

Uh. . . You think Russia is planning in taking all of Europe?

"Should have listened to Mitt."

And what did Mitt say? Other then that he would have put us in a war with Iran by now, and most likely with Syria, and Lybia, as well as keeping all the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan.

"The U.S. now speaks softly and carries a wet noodle as punishment."

Thidder, what would you suggest? Going to war with Russia over Crimea? Will you be one that gets deployed?

"This is all just the consequences of a weak America."

"patriot", care to discuss exactly what cuts have been made to the military and exactly how they have weakened the military? Care to tell us what you are comparing our military to when you say it's weak?

Schnee
Salt Lake City, UT

@wolf
"Obama blew it when he took away the missile defenses, and downsized our military."

I'd still like to know how missile defense shields (which have an abysmal track record of doing what they claim to do anyway) have any effect against tanks and ground troops.

Downsizing our military is meaningless to this conflict, we still have the largest defense budget in the world, by a lot, and we aren't going to fight Russia either way so the number of troops we aren't fighting with doesn't make a difference.

@patriot
A higher defense budget didn't stop Russia from actually fighting with Georgia during Bush's 2nd term. (Personally I think Bush handled that about as well as he could, given that there's not all that much we could or should about it, much like the current issue).

"The US could be just as strong with oil and gas"

Natural gas production has increased rapidly, and the reason we don't sell LNG to Europe is because it's not profitable so unless you want to socialize the energy sector, we're not going to be a viable natural gas alternative for Europe.

JimInSLC
Salt Lake City, UT

This is an issue for the people of Ukraine to resolve, hopefully peacefully and democratically. The US should not have been involved. McCain, and State Dept. persons should not have been in Kiev marching with protestors telling them the US is backing them and paying protestors. The previous Ukraine administration was corrupt. Those that overthrew them are thugs. The US weapons manufacturers will likely be selling them military weapons. Seems like the US is all over the world creating a market for military weapons which the weapons industry is happy to fill.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:GaryO

When did Russia fear America? Seriously? During the Reagan presidency the USSR folded because they couldn't keep up with the US arms build up. Following Reagan the new Russia stayed in its box until Barack Obama. Just like little Jimmy Carter the bad guys laugh at Obama and they release a sigh of relief knowing the same little man that folded like a cheap lawn chair in Syria with his ridiculous red lines will continue to fold. They are sadly correct. The Russian bear is most agressive when it has nothing to fear and that is certainly the case at present. Peace through stength was the Reagan doctine and it ended the cold war. Now we cut our military and make hollow theats and what happens?? More and more conflicts will happen simply because not Russia or China or Iran fear the US anymore. Teddy Roosevelt said "walk softly and carry a BIG stick". Obama says walk softly...actually running would be better ...and make speeches. Again Obama is the laughing stock of the world and especially where the bad guys are concerned.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:Schnee

the aggression and outright disregard that Russia has shown during the Obama years is unmatched perhaps since Russia fought in Afghanastan. Reagan ..if you recall...took a floundering US defense from Jimmy Carter and the liberals and turned the thing around 180 degree's. The result - the USSR folded. When a leader shows strength the bad guys stay put ...or they get crushed as happend with Saddam Hussin. The ONLY thing leaders like Putin understand is strength. Putin isn't fooled by Barack's silly telepromter speeches and his Syria - like red lines. Putin is a KGB hard shell and Obama is a ....well you get the picture.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

re:GaryO

Wow ... where do I start??

1. Reagan took a floundering US military away from little Jimmy Carter and rebuilt it and the USSR folded. Historians all agree the USSR folded because they couldn't keep pace with the US arms build up.
2. When you are strong - you AVOID war. When you are weak you INVITE war. Hard for a liberal to grasp I understand but the truth remains. Of course we don't confront Russia and that's the whole point of being strong Gary - when you are strong the bad guys WON'T want to confront you but when you are weak they see an opportunity.
3. The US needs to be energy independent so they can not continually be drug into conflicts in the Persain gulf. We drill and frack on US soil for OUR OWN needs ....not for Europe. We have the resources here ...we just don't have a leader in the White House who has the will or the understanding.

I would suggest looking back into history Gary and paying more attention to when America was strong and when it was weak (like now). What made the difference? People like Putin know for sure!!

LinfordFamily
Fairview, WY

The Crimea was part of Russia proper for centuries and only allocated to the Ukraine as part of the Soviet Union, and once the breakup of the USSR happened it also came across to the Ukraine. This was intended to allow the mostly Russian population to have influence in the Ukraine and keep a close alliance with first the USSR and and then Russia - it was an interesting move but the seed planted for the problems today. It is unrealistic for the US to have expected any other outcome of the referendum given the circumstances with our without Russian pressure and military threat. We should strengthen our ties with the Ukraine economically and strenghten our ties with Poland, Hungary and other former satelites as a counter balance to Putin the Conqueror.

President Obama is being illogical in taking such a strong stance against Russia literally on their door step when he let Syria cross the "red line" with chemical weapons...his weakness in that instance has provoked Russia in this...wrong time to play Clint Eastwood, and the wrong person...Putin WILL NOT backdown.

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