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Published: Friday, March 14 2014 12:00 p.m. MDT

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GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

"Despite a disastrous start . . . " Disastrous? . . . As in disaster?

Like GW's Iraq war fought under false pretenses that did absolutely no good for the USA and destabilized the Middle East possibly beyond repair?

Like GW's Great Recession caused by irresponsible Right Wingers in undeserved positions of power and public trust.

Now THOSE are disasters.

The Obamacare roll out was no "disaster." But it did have some major problems.

And of course, one of its major problems (and our nation's major problem) is the malevolent Right Wing presence that pervades this nation like a toxic cloud. I've always wondered just how many of the problems encountered in that roll out were directly due to right wing sabotage. The Koch brothers and others like them have proven time and again that they are willing to lay down billions of dollars to hinder the administration's efforts at helping this nation.

In any case, in spite of the worst wishes of Right Wing Publications (like Deseret News perhaps?) Obamacare is a success so far. But of course, it has issues that need to be resolved, as we always knew it would.

Hutterite
American Fork, UT

Good.

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

gary,

1. I assume you slept through the first 2 years of the Iraq War. You know, the war that was approved by a strong majority of both houses of congress. The war that both parties supported. Yes, it was fought for all the wrong reasons, and it hasn't been of any value to the U.S. at all, but to claim that it was Bush's war is just false. Americans on both side of the aisle were angry after 9/11 and demanded action. Our representatives in the Federal Government gave us what we wanted, right or wrong.

2. The recession you are talking about came about because of the housing crisis. The housing crisis was triggered by bad mortgages. The bad mortgages came about because of "equality" laws that required mortgage houses to lend to low income families who could not afford the mortgage. Those "equality" laws were put in place primarily by progressive (notice I did not say democrat, there is a difference) politicians.

3. By every imaginable standard, the initial roll-out of ObamaCare was a complete disaster.
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Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

4. It is the right, and the obligation, of every American to fight against bad politics.

5. There is no way to judge the success or failure of ObamaCare yet. People have not yet been subjected to the penalties for not enrolling, and we are still seeing an under-enrollment in the young and healthy (a required demographic for success). As for my personal experience, my premiums have nearly doubled since the passage of the law, and living in Utah I am sheltered from much of those increases until the end of this year. We'll see what happens in 2015.

The Rock
Federal Way, WA

Other great presidential quotes:

If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor.
If you like your insurance, you can keep your insurance.

GaryO
Virginia Beach, VA

Kirk R Graves -

1. Yes, Democrats in Congress were deceived by the Bush administration into believing our nation was in imminent peril from Iraqi WMD attacks.

2. The recession was triggered by horrendous mismanagement on the part of the Bush administration.

At the behest of the housing industry in 2002, GW Bush himself pressured Fannie into giving no-interest, no-down-payment loans to 5.5 MILLION dirt poor minority families.

“I set an ambitious goal. It's one that I believe we can achieve. It's a clear goal, that by the end of this decade we'll increase the number of minority homeowners by at least 5.5 million families. . . it's going to require a strong commitment from those of you involved in the housing industry . . . Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac . . . have committed to provide more money for lenders. They've committed to help meet the shortage of capital available for minority home buyers.” - GW Bush 2002

The rest is history, and the cause is no mystery.

3. WRONG. The GW Bush administration was a disaster.

4. EXACTLY

5. So far, so good, in spite of the worst wishes of malevolent Right Wingers.

Henry Drummond
San Jose, CA

Is holding vote after pointless vote to overturn Obamacare the only thing the House can do these days?

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

Obama says the health care program is stable huh? This is like saying the Titanic is stable 30 minutes after hitting the ice berg. Yes just stay on board people and all will be well...so long as you don't mind living at the bottom of the Atlantic! "If you like your insurance you can keep your insurance period". Hmmm....now who was it that gave us those comforting words...over and over and over? A good test of how stable this sinking ship is is to simply look at the number of exemptions and delays that are in place....and continuing to grow by the week for this bureaucratic nightmare of a bill. A new 2 year delay was added just this week. Mind you ...this is not to fix anything ...this is just to delay the pain until after elections are over.

Kirk R Graves
West Jordan, UT

1. Wrong. Everyone agreed that the existing intel showed significant risk. History showed that Iraq had WMD and were willing to use them (Kurds).
2. A policy that began under Clinton and continued under Bush 2. Yes, Bush blew it. Yes, his presidency will never go down as one of the top 10, or 30, or 50. Which is why I said Progressive, not Democrat. I blame the Progressives in both parties (Bush being one of them.)
3. Your reply was nonsense as I was talking about ObamaCare and you responded about Bush??? If you have no valid rebuttal, just admit it.
4. Glad we agree.
5. Again, you claim some level of success when there are NO metrics to prove it, and a number of metrics (one of which I mentioned) showing the likelihood of significant future (failure level) problems with the system.

worf
Mcallen, TX

Yes! $550 every two weeks is good.

Riverton Cougar
Riverton, UT

"Is holding vote after pointless vote to overturn Obamacare the only thing the House can do these days?"

To answer that question, I direct you to Kirk R. Grave's point #4 in his post at 1:23 pm on March 14. In case you missed it, it says "4. It is the right, and the obligation, of every American to fight against bad politics."

So Obama says the health care program is stable. Well, he said that we could keep our doctor if we would like. He also said we could keep our insurance if we'd like. He also said the economy was fixed. He also said he deserved to be a one-term president if he didn't fix the economy in his first three years (well, I suppose that statement is technically true, but he didn't follow through on his promise-- surprise!). He also said about the IRS scandal that there was "not a smidgen of corruption".

Bottom line: Obama has said a lot of things. We can count on him to be dishonest.

prelax
Murray, UT

This is good news, without enough young people signing up, taxes would have been raised to cover the shortfall.

Of course we don't know if Obama is telling the truth this time.

mohokat
Ogden, UT

This is scary. The words Obama says makes red flags pop up. Please enlighten me as to when Obama says means this is the truth. His latest in a long string of lies is the premiums will be about what your cellphone bill is. Say what? Is anyone signed up for less than a hundred a month? Or closer to seventy a month. Wake me up when the words Obama says really mean the truth

SKT
Pleasant Grove, UT

I still don't understand how government officials can represent us the people if they don't have to abide by the same rules? Until that changes, nothing will be done for the best interest of the people in this country!

doylespar
WARETOWN, NJ

And it would have been wonderful if all American political parties had supported it from the start but DELIBERATELY naming it after A black president riled up the "UNCIVIL WAR FOLKS",THE US TALIBAN IN CLOWNGRESS.But then the GOP fought Social Security and Medicare as well
GERMANY has had national healthcare since 1885, has no deficits and America owes them 300 Billion dollars.Twenty nine other civilized nations had it for decades or a century or more. American Exceptionalism?

doylespar
WARETOWN, NJ

If posts do not contain harsh or "curse words" why does this paper have to moderate to prevent harming the delicate sensibilities of the editors or who?Please advise if this is Communist China or Cuban owned?

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