No offense taken here. I don't think he was intending to offend anyone.
He was merely stating that regardless of the outcome of the game, he still felt
his guys were the best and didn't care who disagreed with him. This is
just the media making much ado about nothing.
I wasn't offended either. However, it is bizarre he needed to use the word
Mormon at all. Why not just say "I don't care if a lot of byu fans are
mad at me?"
It will be the Utah fans who should be up in arms, since Coach Walters obviously
feels that the state as a whole is composed of both Mormons and BYU fans. Of
course, he's not TOO far off with that statement.
Every coach wants to win and believes his team is the most talented, but when
they have to resort to holding, pushing, and aggressive "banging," this
is an obvious admission of their inability to stop their opponent any other way
proves that they are not the best team. Still, when most coaches loose, they
have enough class not to run down the other team or their fans. BYU had just
beaten San Francisco for the third time this year, which isn't an easy
thing to do, and this coach still insisted that his team was the better team.
We all say things in times of stress that aren't intended to offend but
could. The statement was unnecessary but hey this guy is a wonderfully coach
who gets really fired up. Go cougs!
I'm guessing the wcc put a lot of pressure on him to retract his comment.
byu brings alot of benefits to the conference, including holmoe's
leadership, fan attendance, and tv...and they're beatable.
His comments were dumb and sounded like sour grapes, but they weren't
offensive. No need to apologize.
What a stupid comment! His comment makes me glad that BYU won the game!
I don't care if there are a lot of black people made at meI
don't care if there are a lot of women mad at meI don't care if
there are a lot of Jews mad at meI don't care if there are a lot of
Asians mad at me.I don't think we should get upset, but if
anyone used any of the phrases above he'd be called a sexist, racist,
bigot.....just for singling out a group of people unnecessarily. And
that's what he did here. I don't understand why he would use the
terminology he did, but whatever. Lets not get up in arms and scream
discrimination like other groups would do.
“He who takes offense when no offense is intended is a fool, and he who
takes offense when offense is intended is a greater fool.” ―
Coach's comments are just an interesting way of refering to a group of
like-minded people. No offense taken.Now, ekute... why would you
think it is cute or smart or whatever you thought, or didn't think, when
you said "they're beatable" about a team that didn't get
beat?And to comment about a conference, and the benefits a new
member brings to that conference, and mention "beatable?"Do
you not see the irony?In case you didn't, let me help. One
could make the same defense of a certain team on a hill with new membership in a
conference. They bring all of the same benefits to the conference. Except
leadership. And fan attendance. And tv. But they have the other
benefit. Maybe not by BYU. But by the vast majority of their conference mates.
@representblue,And so far I see no one taking offense.
I felt his comments were classless. These types of comments are what you hear
from San Deigo State's "the show" and Dennis Rodman. Listening to
the LMU coaches comments after his defeat and SF's coaches comments were
night and day. LMU's coach was respectful while also giving praise to his
team, SF's coach was negative and borderline derogatory. I agree with most
posters that this isn't something to get offended by, but like Sports Are
Great said, if this was said about a "protected" group, there would be
forced repercussions. I am of the belief that if you verbally demean someone,
you verbally apologize. Using Twitter is a cop out.
It would have been better for him if he would have said "BYU Fans"
rather than just "Mormons". Still, no personal offense need be taken by
anyone.When asked the question if he thought his players were still
the best team in the tournament, perhaps he should have said yes, but despite
being voted the coach of the year, maybe a better coaching job would have helped
his players avoid a 3 peat sweep by BYU. That would have sounded a lot better.
Thanks Coach. Your words just might show up on the locker room wall next
year.I didn't take any offense at his remarks but it was
fooling for him to say what he said. He also complained about all the "over
the backs". I don't know about this year, but last year Haws was
punched almost every time the ref was not looking at him.Great game
last night. Looking forward to tonight.
No offense taken. In fact, I like spirited comments. They give us something to
talk about the next day. I don't think an apology was necessary.
My first reaction to his comments was simply that he was a coach disappointed in
the loss and wanted to show support for his team. The fact he said
"Mormons" seemed unnecessary since it makes it seem as though all
Mormons are BYU fans or that all/only Mormons live in Utah. Of course, neither
of those things are true and he may be surprised to learn how many Mormons and
BYU fans (2 diff. things) live in the San Fran. area. Nothing to be offended by
but not very good sportsmanship from the guy that was just awarded the WCC coach
of the year.
Doesn't sound like he was taking a shot at anyone. Still I've heard
other coaches (including BYU coaches) sometimes use the phrase "the best
team didn't win today." I kind of know what they mean but it still
comes across as being lest that gracious in defeat. Just credit your opponent
and move on.
Y Grad / Y Dad,I predicted your response. You can't deny that byu is
a giant in the wcc in all aspects, yet...they're beatable.
ekute. "Beatable" ha, good one. Evidently not by San Diego in three
tries this year. Thanks though for describing the Utes joining the PAC in EVERY
major sport for three years and counting. Y grad/dad is right, irony at
ekuteLayton, UT"Y Grad / Y Dad,I predicted your
response. You can't deny that byu is a giant in the wcc in all aspects,
yet...they're beatable."So, what, did you write it down and
put it in your pocket? What is the point? Gonzaga is beatable, by BYU even.
Arizona is beatable. Utah is beatable.Only more so...Hey, I have a prediction. BYU IS beatable AND we bring leadership, fans and
TV. Maybe the PAC whatever will reconsider inviting BYU to come play.Nah, the PAC doesn't need leadership, fans or TV. And they've
already taken care of a two year supply of "beatable."Seriouusly, why do you want to continue this discussion?
USF MOTTO: Motto: Educating minds and hearts to change the world, Change the
World from here yey
If I was still living in Marin County (across the Golden Gate Bride). I would of
come to his campus and leave a message "Morman was here". Come on coach
want missionary discussion?
No offense taken. This is a case of a good coach supporting his team. If you or
your son played for him would you rather he said something like, "My players
just aren't that good. They'll never match up with some of the other
teams in this conference."?
It may have been a dumb comment but an apology was not necessary. I am a Mormon,
I am not mad at him, and was nowhere near offended by his comment. Honestly, I
don't see anything to be offended by unless you look at it from an
ultra-sensitive politically correct lame liberal point of view.The
silliest thing about his comment was him saying that he thinks SF is the best
team in the WCC. That is laughable since it has been proven to be incorrect by
head-to-head play, overall record, conference record, etc. But that didn't
make me mad, it just gave me a good laugh.
@Sports Are GreatI am glad that is so. There were a few on CB last
night who did take offense, although I am sure most of those have slept it off
since. Its easy for both sides to let their emotions get the better of them
after a close, hard fought game, and I suspect that is why Coach Walters made
the comments he did. If anything he just sounded like a sore loser, which is
what I am sure he regrets most.
what would anyone be offended about? I think the pc police have gone
crazy......I AM NOT OFFENED
what was offensive about that?
agree with this assessment: "No offense taken here. I don't think he
was intending to offend anyone."
I'm Mormon and I am curious to understand what he said that caused such a
stir in the media?GO UTES! GO LDS!!
After reading his remarks, I found myself asking myself, "Was I supposed to
be offended by what he said?" It wouldn't have occurred to me to give
his commentary a second thought.
I am so sick of the PC culture in our society. Nothing he said was offensive
and even if it was...WHO CARES!!!!! This country did not achieve the strength
of character it has by everyone being handled with kit gloves. We are free and
if you want to maintain freedom you have to take the good with the bad. Freedom
is sometimes offensive!It is OK for Pornographers to peddle their filth
and enslave a generation of people, but it isn't OK to say, I don't
care if Mormons or Utahns are made at me? He is delusional anyway, he just said
his guys won tonight when the scoreboard said otherwise.
Wookie, in this crazy PC world we live in, any time a protected group is
unnecessarily singled out its automatically some form of bigotry. He referred to
Mormons even though he didn't need to as not all Mormons are byu fans and
not all byu fans are Mormon. If he had played a team full of black
players at a historically black college with mainly black fans and said
"I'm sure I'm going to upset a lot of black people but we were the
better team" surely you can realize the liberal masses would scream bigotry.
No difference between my hypothetical and what he did. The only difference is
the reaction the left would have and the reaction(or really lack of) most BYU
Mormons are displaying here. Like just about every poster has said,
we're choosing to not be offended by it. It just wasn't a
smart thing to say in this PC obsessed world we live in.
Represent Blue quoted Brigham Young and I agree completely with BY's
sentiment. Even though Coach Walters apologized I think it's self evident
what he meant. I don't take offense at comments like this but it was a
verbal dig and cannot be retracted. The post game handshakes by USF
players and coaches were obviously a physical portrayal of what they felt and
thought and the comments by the coach verbalized their collective feelings.The game was probably the most physical conference game of the year and
the refs let both teams play hard. BYU and USF had several no-calls and tempers
were hot. I'm just happy BYU won the game, it could have gone easily the
other way so by my accounting and opinion, the best team did win last night.
My shell is thick and I will respond in kindness, no hard feelings.
You have to choose to take offense. And that applies to life in general.
The only thing I'm offended by is his lumping Mormons and BYU fans.
Back off PC Police...nothing here to see. Now, USF, best team?? You
lose to BYU at home, on the road and at a neutral site...0-3.I...don't...think...so!
"I'm proud of our guys. They won the game tonight." - San Francisco
coach Rex WaltersWait a sec...this coach is saying his team won the
game in spite of the fact that BYU actually won it? Does this sound
familiar?"We won this game. It felt like a win. Just because
the scoreboard says something different doesn't mean we didn't
win." - BYU LB Brady Poppinga after losing to Boise St.Coach
Walters may be closer to being a BYU-type than he would be comfortable with.
If you come to San Francisco...Be sure to wear some flowers in your
hairSummertime, there will be a love-in thereMust be March
madness. ... Not summertime.
IF I offended anyone: famous non-apology words. I personally am not offended,
but I am a little embarrassed for Coach Walters. Not his best moment I think,
neither in the post game comments, nor in the weak apology.
Christine B. HedgefogSalt Lake City, UTekute. "Beatable" ha,
good one. Evidently not by San Diego in three tries this year. Thanks though for
describing the Utes joining the PAC in EVERY major sport for three years and
counting. Y grad/dad is right, irony at it's finest.Or by usf whom
also got beat 3 times by BYU,but for Walters to say what he did does not make
him look like the WCC coach of the year ,it makes him look more like the WCC
chump of the year.
Hey, it's a free country. If Rex wants to state how he feels, more power to
him. I'm a little puzzled why Mormons/BYU fans would be upset with him for
losing to us 3 times in one season. We won all three games. Couldn't be
happier. But if it makes him happy to proclaim his team is the best one in the
Sounds like poor sportsmanship at the end of a heated game.
DN moderator: I don't understand why I am being censored for a direct quote
that DN put in print…I'll modify and try again:---Offended? Not really.But his post game comments tell me 3
things about him1. He loves his players.2. He is a delusional sore
loser.3. He is a religious bigot. There is no reason whatsoever to bring
religion ("Mormons") into the topic. He could have easily said "BYU
fans" instead, but he chose not to.And if he doesn't give a
hoot what Mormons think, then why is he apologizing?
After the heat of the battle, don't speak for 1 hour. Just ask Max Hall and
the corner with Seattle. That said, I wasn't offended and would find it
silly for anyone to be offended by what Rex said. No big deal.
C'mon media. As a proud Cougar fan and Mormon, I couldn't have cared
less about Walter's comments and I can't imagine anyone else being
offended. Media concocted story. Period.
"The best team may not have won tonight."Don't know why
BYU fans would be mad at the statement. Lots of them make it after a lot of
Wow, people are up in arms over the losing coach saying "the best team lost
this game", yet they use the same quote when the cougars lose games.
Absurd that the coach insists his team is better after repeatedly losing to BYU
head to head. Wait, where have I heard that before?
The better team doesn't always win...3 or 4 times in a row.
If Coach Walters, or any USF players or fans are reading this, let me just say
as a BYU fan, Apology Accepted. No Harm, No Foul. USF is a great
team and you guys played your guts out Monday night. As a Cougar fan, we know
all about close, difficult losses and sometimes emotions can boil over. In the
past, some of our guys have said things to the media which made us as fans shake
our heads and quietly say, "OOPS!" And in all honesty, what Coach
Walters said really wasn't all that bad. No doubt that with a
21-11 record, the Dons will land in one of the post season tournaments, and I
truly, sincerely hope they do well. GO COUGARS AND GO DONS!
@StGtoSLC@KimmyPI agree the phrase, "The best team
lost this game", is probably not the most intelligent comment ever spoken,
but I'm certain that at least one time every team has had a coach or a
member of their fan base make that remark. Hardly exclusive to BYU or the other
WCC teams.I actually don't blame Coach Walters for saying or
believing his team was better than BYU. After all, the Cougars did not have
their best game against USF. Despite a couple of double digit leads, the Cougar
offense went cold at a number of key points and allowed the Dons to get right
back into the game. My advice to everyone is, forget about it and
carry on. BYU's season isn't over yet and I'm certain San
Fransisco's isn't either. It's just a matter of waiting to find
out what post-season tournament each team lands in. GO COUGARS AND
Yawn! Much ado about nothing. No offense intended. No offense taken.
I'm a proud Mormon and a huge Coug fan...But I like and admire the SF
coach... He has put a good team together and the Dons did well this year...
It's always hard to lose that last game (particularly in OT)...The Media was simply trying to rub his face in his earlier statement about
having the best team at the Tourney... To back down from that statement would be
a slap in his player's face... Not the best choice of words but definitely
the right intention.
Oh c'mon, Y Grad/Y Dad and Christine B. Hedgefog, all ekute is trying to
say is that we (BYU) bring a lot to the table for the WCC in terms of publicity,
fan base, tv, etc. but that we are beatable which means we don't (or at
least haven't so far) dominate the conference (that's Gonzaga's
role for now). We are beatable. No, we didn't lose to San Franciso or San
Diego this year but are we beatable in the WCC? Yes! By Gonzaga most recently
but once before (1/25/14), by LMU (12/28/13) by Pepperdine (12/30/13), by
Pacific (1/23/14). And that fact -- that we are beatable -- is, I think, all
that ekute is trying to say. We bring a lot to the conference but we
aren't dominating the conference (yet!!!!). I don't see much irony
here. I think (staying in line with some earlier comments in this strand) that
we don't need to take offense. Point well made, ekute!
Why get offended by that? He loves his team just like any good coach. He was
simply referencing the obvious that most of BYU's fans are members of the
Church. Can't get better publicity than free publicity.
Strong ManEau Claire, WIThanks for trying to be the voice of
reason!But I'm not ready yet. ek's comments COULD be
taken as a sarcastic , but that would be like taking offense at anything Rex
said. Why waste the energy? I don't have a problem feeling like his team
is better than the Y. That point has been examined to death.So, if
we take ek's comments at face value, what's the point. EVERY team is
beatable. Might as well point out that we also bring a really nice shade of
blue to the conference.But, as you have obviously tried to take the
higher road, I will try to repent and do better.Thanks, ekute, for
the compliments! When we think we're unbeatable, we'll let you know.
Hopefully AFTER we've gone unbeaten, not before.
I think SOME BYU fans will agree that a more appropriate post-game comment would
be:“I don’t like [BYU]. In fact, I hate them. I hate
everything about them. I hate their program, their fans. I hate everything.... I
think the whole university and their fans and the organization is