To "Furry1993" wow, you really don't know what a conservative is.
Jon Huntsman is as much as a conservative as Mickey Mouse is a real person. He
is not that much different than many of the moderate Democrats. I wouldn't
call him conservative. Moderate at best, but the proper term for him is
Having seen what the Republicans have to offer so far, I see no way that I can
support any of them. There's not a decent one in the bunch. I really hope
Jon Huntsman, or another TRUE conservative (not far right extremist), decides to
run. That type of candidate I could support.For both parties -- I
hope there is a long series of debates so the candidates in both parties can
thoroughly vet each other and the public can see what it would really be getting
with each of them. The best way to keep from buying a "pig in a poke"
is to have all of the candidates' dirty laundry spread out for everyone to
see. We need more of that, on both sides. Not less.
The GOP Debates should be held early and decided sooner. After that, the GOP
Convention should be held in June at the very latest so we can get more funding
(if the IRS allows it). And last, but not least, the GOP should stand together
and elect their candidate. Don't be so foolish as the last two times when
the Libertarian nut jobs threw away their votes and got Obama elected.
To "LiberalJimmy" wow, you really did not read what I said. I never
said that the Republican always wins. I said that in many cases the far-right
canidate wins when they present themselves with actual principles and as an
actual contrast to the Democrat or Progressive Republican.I
don't like the message that the Republican leadership keeps putting out. I
prefer the message that the Libertarian leaning republicans put out. They are
the ones that give us a contrast to the Progressives in both the Republican and
@LibJim-There are more flavors of ice cream than giddy libby. Ask my
husband, a PhD, rocket scientist, conservative Independent. You make us smile,
thank you. Ask your Ivy Leagers how wide BHO's winning margin was...Oh, and more than one media outlet than MSNBC. Rage against the
Machine, but FOX still leads.
@Shazandra...Your post alone is a perfect example of why the Republican party is
dead my friend. Believe it or not there are numerous young people such as myself
that posses Ivy League Degrees and are highly educated. We vote how we feel. We
vote on which candidate will offer the best for our generation. We have a vision
of moving forward rather then taking a time machine back into the 1800's.
Most important. We vote with intellect, reasoning and logic. Therefore as you
are aware this means we vote for the Democratic candidate.
@Red Shirt...Wow! Really? The Republican candidate always wins? Are you
referring to the last two Presidential elections? Definitely remember what it
took to beat Al Gore. Is that what you mean by winning? Keep pushing the message
of divide rather then unification. Continue assuming that everyone is a
Christian. Continue that there is a correlation between SSM and religion.
Continue attempting to deny women freedom of choice. Etc, etc. It's
definitely a new age. The Republican message is old, tiresome and completely out
of date. Don't believe me? Wait until 2016. Thank you for your service and
best of luck. Be safe!
@Jamescmeyer...Only in Oklahoma along with states similar in ideology are there
people that actually believe ANY of these one dimensional individuals are solid
Presidential candidates. These are the same people that still believe our
President was born in Kenya! Typical religious zealots which believe everyone
does or should share their beliefs. Just wait until 16. Hillary will cruise.
Cannot wait to find out where she was actually born.
Who knew conservatism was dead in the USA...?Oh yeah, anyone trying
to get a job, keep a job, start jobs, provide health coverage, get some
affordable health coverage, keep a business afloat, buy a float...The Party of Spend-Everyone-Else's-Money will soon have to dig into their
own pockets to shell out Their Own Money. The conservatives' was all taken
away... After they read the bill.
To "NeilT" if republican voters are "tired of the extreme right"
then why is it that when in many cases where the "far right" canidate is
the under dog, they end up winning? Why to they win as often as they have been
over the pat 4 years? The facts seem to show that Republican voters are tired
of moderates and Progressive Republicans.To the liberals out there.
Please explain why we should listen to your "advice" on who to run and
how to improve the Republican's chances of getting their canidate elected?
You do not have the Republican party's best interest in mide. Your goal is
to get the Democrat elected. So again, why should we listen to you? When
Republicans have, we have ended up with John McCain and other Progressives.
In case one has always wondered...When discussing the Southern Utah town
of LaVerkin, Utah, which is located on the curve of the highway, at the bottom
of the hill, on the way to Zion's National Park......One will clearly
recall their drive through this little quirky little town.La Verkin is the
town that is known for rather odd buildings AND the large banner hung over the
main highway stating,"Get Us Out Of the United Nations".
To elabrotae somewhat on the UN are two issues; First, that the UN's very
chartering is faulty, in both being modeled much after the soviet charter and in
granting a small number of countries (including Russia!?) on the "Security
Council" supreme power to influence and act. The second concern is in
preserving the United States' national soverign rights, particularly when
it comes to UN agreements that would run counter to the constitution of said
nation.What's more, my life dispels the idea that
"conservatism is dead in America".Mitt Romney was awesome.
Rick Santorum is awesome. Rick Perry is awesome. Ron Paul is mostly awesome.
Ted Cruz is awesome, and absolutely correct. There is no shortage of fantastic
presidential nominees, especially if one compares it to the roster of likely
"The Dems allowed plenty of discussion before passing Obamacare, but the
Republicans didn't want to have anything to do with it.The
Republicans had their chance to contribute constructive suggestions, but
apparently they couldn't think of any."Is this some sort of
new revisionist history they teach in Virginia nowadays? Obama told Republicans
they can come for the ride but need to sit in the back. Many of the discussions
were behind locked doors.
@ShazandraThat misplaced arrogance is also exactly why conservatism is
dead in America. Sadly for the far right they are not as clever as they think.
nicholdraper - The Dems allowed plenty of discussion before passing Obamacare,
but the Republicans didn't want to have anything to do with it.The Republicans had their chance to contribute constructive suggestions, but
apparently they couldn't think of any.Ah well . . . fortunately
the Dems were wise enough and capable enough to take the initiative and get this
beneficial law passed.Thank goodness for the wisdom, the
perseverance, and the can-do ethic of Obama and the Democrats.And
thank you Founding Fathers for giving our generation the opportunity to enact
@slcdenizon If you think the UN is doing the USA any good then you must be a
brick short. All we do is support the UN and they try to destroy us.
Why do I vote for Republicans? I disagree with most of their platform.
I'm for open boarders. I don't think a women should have to speak to
a judge to get an abortion. I even think we should have universal health care.
We should have allowed gays to marry and divorce years ago. The divisions and
discussions in the Republican Party are healthy. The Democratic party is sick.
Passing a law, like Obamacare without allowing the division and discussion is a
recipe for disaster. I would trust a leader who disagrees with me and listens
to me more than someone who tells me they agree with me but doesn't listen.
If you want a party that doesn't bother with discussion vote for the
Democrats. Then you will hear, "We have to pass this bill to find out what
is in it," "If you like your health care plan you can keep it," and
when you want an explanation you will be told "what difference does it
make?" Yes, I remember why I vote for Republicans.
"'If you want to lose elections, stand for nothing,' said Cruz . .
. "If you want to lose elections by the largest possible margin,
then define your Party as out of touch, irrational, delusional, uncaring, and
just plain mean.Welcome to the Modern Republican Party.
@intervention:Yup. Thaz what I said, and thaz exactly what I meant.
@shazandra That's the answer, we foolish masses just need some shiny
beads to distract us while the conservatives with thier superior intellect come
in and save us from ourselves
Please. Please. Offer up ANY of these candidates as the Republican nominee.
Hillary will cruise even easier then she already will in 2016. Possibly then the
conservatives will realize that their party is completely out of touch and needs
a new message along with a serious dose of reality!
The Repubs will only ever win a nat'l election again when they
"get" their demographics right:Get behind one, good-looking,
young, cool/hip, intelligent, eloquent "token" Black Republican.
There's several out there. And put the female minority equivalent on the
ticket as VP.Libs, hip college youth and the vain in America care
more about the outward. Do the BHO shtick and don't go into detail on the
social issues, skirt around them and keep "open" and looking cool. Hang
with Jimmy Fallon, get some rock stars on board, kick CatScratchFever moron off
the circuit, and it's a done deal... Well, try to hoodwink Oprah and get
her royal blessings; throw in Brad & Jolina.Done deal. Then
hammer them with conservative agendas for the next four. They'll see
success in a new way and stop whining.Someone kidnap the old guys
during the vote and make it happen.
"When you don't stand and draw a clear distinction, when you don't
stand for principle, Democrats celebrate."I wonder if people
like Cruiz will ever understand that it is not that we the voters do not
understand were they stand and what they think we should be doing, we actually
want them to shut up for a minute and actually listen to what we the voters
(their potential bosses) want from our employees.
There may be a division in the Republican Party for some, but I see this as very
healthy. It is great to be a party of open-minded people with strong
convictions and individual thought. Somewhere along the line the Republican
Party will unite behind a strong leader, but in the meantime, it is good to have
much to debate. It is incumbent upon dynamic political parties to have
diversity and not to kneel down to a "king" figure or the winner of some
popularity contest and to shut down all debate. Debates are good and healthy
and I'm sure our founding fathers would approve as they were strong opinion
holders as well. Perhaps, if the citizens would scour various news outlets daily
and become involved in the political process rather than staying up late at
night to let late night comedians set the agenda this country would be in a true
leadership role and "a light on the hill" (figuratively and literally
Republicans have all but forgotten Reagans 11th commandment. Thou shalt not
speak ill of fellow Republicans. The country needs leadership and a president
who knows how to unify not divide the country. I really don't care who is
the most conservative. Republicans are acting like children who can't get
along. The next election is not going to a wake up call for Republicans.
Voters are tired of the extreme ideology of the far right.
I love the annual c-pac meetings, they make great fodder for the late night
@RichieI'm baffled at the St. George sentiment regarding the
UN. Did the school system stop teaching history? Have the libraries shutdown?
Does the drinking water contain high doses of harmful chemicals? I can't
for the life of me understand the peculiar sentiment in Southern Utah that the
US is somehow harmed by UN membership. Prior to it's formation, the world
saw two wars with millions of lives lost. Is there a better solution for
creating relative stability throughout the world?
What does it mean to have "starch in his backbone"? Doe "cow
tow" have to do with livestock transport?
Time to set off a fire storm. I am a Mormon and I like Rick Perry because I
think he has some starch in his backbone and he won't cow tow to the UN.