DonP, a pedophile is a separate thing from being heterosexual or homosexual. In
scouting heterosexual women/moms are often in leadership roles, the child are
safe as long as the woman isn't a pedophile.
Does anyone else find it ironic that the Boy Scouts are being sued by adult
victims of sexual assaults by their male leaders that happened decades ago and
now they are being penalized for not allowing male leaders who may be attracted
to adolescent boys.
Why must the organization receive corporate sponsorship at all. I would rather
they charge less admission to their parks, focus their money on accessibility
within the parks for the disabled/challenged and make their service excellent
for the disabled and wish kids. Scholarships for employees (cast members) and
Last time I looked weren't Minnie and Mickey still holding hands? Poor
Donald, guess he'll have to resort to...let me see, Pluto or Goofy? The
slippery slope continues to get steeper and steeper every day. I agree to the
Boycott Disney campaign, but I''m not waiting until 2015.
Sneaky Jimmy : I had a son abused by a gay scout leader -- along with 11 other
boys.It is not a matter of equal rights - it is a matter of protecting boys from
this destructive behavior.I know by sad experience what can happen and does
how are the boy scouts going to make up for the lost money? Friends of Scouting
driving will be intense this year. Be ready
Walt died in 1966. How can anyone say what he would have done. Now I have
added Disney to my boycott list. I also don't wear Levi's or Levi
Strauss products due to them making the same type of decision regarding the Boy
Scouts as Disney did. No more Disneyland or Disney movies for me.PC
run amok. Sad. They are being as bigoted as they accuse the Boy Scouts of
I agree with As If. I NEVER saw men at a girls campout in all my years in
Mutual. Disney has really sunk. This has been going on for a long
time. I have no doubt that Walt is spinning in his grave.I have no
desire to have anything to do with Disney any more. It's really sad.
I highly doubt this has anything to do with ethics or morals, Disney Studios is
simply concerned about lost revenue and right now it's very en-vogue in
Hollywood to go support homosexuality and gay marriage.
I find it interesting that Disney meets its objection to intolerance with its
@cjb - Are you honestly suggesting that gay men more easily succumb to
temptation? I sincerely doubt that one's gender attraction preference has
any impact on ones ability to control their temptations.
Allowing gay boys to benefit from the scouting experience was the right thing to
do.Not allowing gay leaders is also the right thing to do. They
would be tempted. Where there is temptation, some would succumb to temptation.
Past news stories with scouts and other organizations proves this to be the
I hope everyone who agrees with the scouts will cut funding to Disney in 2015.
BSA should encourage all scouts to boycott all things dizzney! Turnabout is
fair play......follow me boys follow me!
To Utefan4Lyf,I grew up in Southern California and we NEVER had boys
with us when we went to camp or went camping as Young Women. As to Walt Disney,
I can't believe he would even slightly approve of what Disney is doing.
Totally out of character. If the Boy Scouts are destroyed because of the current
push towards Gay Leaders, the LDS Church will just come up with our itsogram. I
bet they're even working on one now.
This is such a double standard....So, I don't want you
discriminate against me for my choices, but I am going to
discriminate against you for your choices.Double Standard!
BSA is being used as a pawn by the far left. Sad to see this once great org die
but anything wholesome in America is bound to die anymore with the ugly PC
culture that exists. It's the boys that lose out.
@Conservative Scientist:And what do you think would happen during that one
on one time? I can guarantee that 99% of gay men think of young men about the
same way straight men think about young women. And aren't men invited to
Young Womens camping trips? I know that was the norm when I was growing up.
Shouldn't we be worried about that? You know, just in case?
We need to give this a rest already. I can't speak to what walt disney
would approve of; people disapproved and approved of a lot of stuff in the
fifties that have since changed. And maybe we need to start having some honest,
open and meaningful discussions about sex. Now let's all get back to work.
It's already been said quite clearly; there is a very real danger to having
knowingly or openly gay scout leaders. I can't look through the news on
any given day without some story of sexual assault on the part of a teacher, a
supervisor, a priest(people love to look really hard and dig these ones out), or
anyone else; it is not in anyone's best interest to force the Boy Scouts to
admit gay leaders.
Simple question. Would it be appropriate for an adult woman who is 20 years
old, or any age really - who is attracted to men - to go camping and on other
activities with 17 year old young men or any teenage young men? Is it
appropriate for a 20 year old man, or any age really - who is attracted to women
- to go camping with 17 year old women? Is it appropriate for an adult man of
any age - who is attracted to men - to go camping with young teenage boys? The
answer seems utterly obvious. I would never allow my teenage daughters to be in
situations that are common in scouting with an adult man. No amount of rules
and regulations within scouting can keep an adult man and a young man who are
attracted to each other out of a bad situation. Scout leaders end up alone, one
on one, with youth, all the time, even though it is not supposed to happen. A
couple of minutes is all one needs for sexual assault to happen. It happens in
schools as evidenced by recent headlines. Allowing gay men as leaders in the
scouting organization is a bad idea.
@Sneaky JimmyCome on Jimmy, you should know this. When they boy
turns 18, in the eyes of the law he is in a position of power and authority over
the other boys. How many cases of pedophilia and sex abuse have we heard about
where someone is using a position of authority to groom and then abuse?It's OK to disagree with BSA on this topic, but my advice is to come up
with a better argument.
@ Sneaky Jimmy - Bay Area, CA "Walt would not allow the BSA to discriminate
against people. Disney has long been at the forefront of offering equal benefits
to the LGBT community.Ask yourself: why is it OK to have a boy in scouting that
is gay but as soon as he turns 18 he has to leave the organization and
can't serve as a leader?"Answer: because while a fellow
Scout is only a peer, and NOT in a position of direct authority and influence, a
Scout leader IS in a position of direct authority and influence. That is a
night and day difference and therefore an easy answer. YOU may not think it
matters whether someone is a "peer" or a "leader" but other
people think it matters. I'm one who thinks it matters very much.Next question....
Walt would not allow the BSA to discriminate against people. Disney has long
been at the forefront of offering equal benefits to the LGBT community.Ask
yourself: why is it OK to have a boy in scouting that is gay but as soon as he
turns 18 he has to leave the organization and can't serve as a leader?
Walt would not have gone along with this decision .