"President Barack Obama expressed deep concern Friday over reported military
activity inside Ukraine by Russia and warned "there will be costs" for
any intervention. He did not say what those costs might be".Of
course he didn't. He hasn't got a clue what he should do. Time to
draw another line in the sand??
'"Any violation of Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity
would be deeply stabilizing," Obama said in a hastily arranged statement
delivered from the White House.'I hope that's a
misprint... I would think "deeply DE-stabilizing" makes more sense.That said, maybe the "costs" threatened could be the requirement
that the US Congress be charged with making decisions for Russia for a while.
I'll tell you California Steve, I feel a lot better about having Barack
Obama in the White House, especially on foreign affairs, than I ever did with
George W. Bush. Hey, I know it's a low bar, but still. Conservatives can
holler about Benghazi, a trumped up nothing-burger of a scandal, all they want.
But BO has more good judgment in his pinky than Dick Cheney had in his entire
Ok Mr Putin. If you don't get out of Ukraine, I will be forced to put Joe
Biden in charge of a committee to research the effects of your aggression, and
have Susan Rice go on talk shows and make up stories about you!!!If
that isn't enough, I will hold a press conference and promise that justice
will be served! Lastly, my two secret weapons can and will be deployed....1. No golfing with you2. Michelle will take more vacations with
Oprah...Now...take that you poo poo head
Even if Obama draws another line in the sand for Russia, Putin knows it'll
be just a hollow threat like a bark coming from a dog without teeth. How's
he going to enforce it? There isn't a single leader among the nations of
the world that respect this president and America anymore. We are now the
laughing stock of the world because of this man's policies and arrogance.
The America we used to know no longer exists unfortunately!
A bit of historical fact is in order on this issue. Ukraine was part of the
Soviet Empire under Communism which fell in 1991. Eastern and Southern (Crimean
peninsula) have been Russian since the staring of millions by Joe Stalin and the
movement of Russian settlers into the regions. Western Ukraine is basically
oriented with the EU. Russia fought a war for the Crimea in the 1850's and
lost under the czar. This is where the Russian fleet is ported. The Black Sea
is only accessible through the Bosphorus which cuts Istanbul (Constantinople) in
half. As someone who served on a U.S. Navy cruiser on a state visit to Romania,
I can attest to the geo political needs of Russia. We dropped off CIA personnel
in Constanta to help overthrow their dictator. The Russian government is the
target and they will fight like "a wounded bear".
What's all the mystery about "costs" if Russia invades the Ukraine.
That was an understatement by Obama.Of course there will be costs.
Invading another nation to "stabilize" the country, can be
tremendously expensive for the invader, as we found out in Iraq . . . expensive
in lives and money lost.It could cost Russia a whole lot of money
and international political capital much as their misadventure in Afghanistan
cost them. Apparently Russian leaders are slow learners.
I'm sure Gandalf would have said the same thing in 1936 when Hitler started
invading his neighbors and in 1938 when Japan invaded Manchuria. Roosevelt
didn't want to get us involved with wars and he warned the Germany and
Japan. Our military is shrinking while China and Russia's military is
growing and no one fears us any more. The President will draw a line
in the sand which is worthless and our EU allies won't do anything that
could offend Russia and risk losing their source of cheap natural gas. The
world will watch as the Russian tanks roll into the Ukraine, just as it did when
Hitler rolled his tanks into the countries that neighbored Germany.The result of the West's apathy was a World War, will it happen again,
Yes. In 2008 Sarah Palin was mocked when she predicted if Sen Obama were
elected Russia would invade the Ukraine because he was weak. Six years later
she was right.The only thing the President will take action against
is his critics and he will bring the full weight of the government against them.
I don't miss Bush, I'm sorry Romney wasn't elected.
"There will be costs?" coming from the King of Intervention. Why
don't we take a dose of our own medicine?Gandalf: to compare a tyrant
with a psychopath doesn't mean the tyrant is desirable.
Obama should tone it down, especially about severing diplomatic ties. Remember
we are still both nuclear powers. As far as Ukraine, suppose Montana, Texas or
Arizona should decide to secede? We are not there yet, but we have ample unrest
(and attendant threats) by certain groups of our own. Would Mr.Obama send
troops? What is his contingency plan? We had better make sure our own house is
in order and that we have a more humane plan before we lecture the Russians.
I am sure he outer is shaking. He was how Obummer responded to the line he had
made in Syria. Oh, and he saw the competence of obamacare
Hard to draw a line in the sand worth considering when our military is being cut
down to its smallest size since World War II. What is the military suppose to
use, harsh language?
These kinds of things wouldn't have happened during the Reagan years when
we were a strong country.We were the reason many countries enjoyed
freedom.We are no longer strong, and independence is
disappearing.We were lied to about Romney, and now Barry is in the
drivers seat.Very sad.
Why is anyone surprised by this? Obama to the Russians caught on a hot
microphone just before he was re-elected, "After my election I will have
more flexibility." Obama is now, in effect, saying to Putin, If you like
your Ukraine, Georgia or any other real estate, you can keep it, period! Now
that is real "flexibility" from Obama! Putin flexes and Obama has no
ability or credibility!
All the "Conservatives" lambasting Obama on this site for allegedly
being a weak blowhard apparently yearn for the days of GW Bush.. .
. Nostalgic for the days when we invaded Iraq, a country that did not attack us
first, and wasted trillions of dollars and thousands of American lives, while
destabilizing the Middle East for years to come.Didn't Russia
invade Georgia during GW Bush's time in office?Apparently,
Putin didn't respect Bush's Republican administration much either.Why do you suppose that is?Does that say something about
Putin's regard for Republicans?Given the fact that Russia
invaded Georgia during the GW Bush administration, how in the world can
Republicans criticize Obama for Russia's threat against Ukraine?Please, can some "Conservative" explain to me in a rational manner
just what the thought process is here.. . . Or maybe there's
nothing rational about the thought process?
Nothing like a good geo-political crisis to bring the traitors out of the
woodwork!Wait, no, Fox News TV, aka Fox News Traitor Vision, has been at
this for over 6 years.Carry on.
@MountanmanObama was talking about nuclear weapons deals and he was 100%
accurate in saying there's more flexibility after elections because earlier
in his first term the new START treaty was passed by a lame-duck Congress in Dec
2010 after the election when there's more flexibility to pass bills without
re-election campaign pressure.
So, if I understand Sarah Palin and her followers, Putin disrespects Obama and
his Democratic administration, and therefore he will invade Ukraine.Russia invaded Georgia in 2008.Why?Was it because
Putin disrespected GW Bush and his Republican administration?
GaryO...1. Your assumption that those who don't trust the Obama team
therefore, love GW is your assumption. No one has commented on it so you own
it.2. Russia invading Georgia, The Five Day War...not the same thing as
this: A. Georgia was a divided territory with two weak forms of
government. Russia, like the USA went in to settle the civil unrest...they were
a settling force for a country that was not functioning. B. Not so in
the Ukrain. They simply had a flawed leader, and were working thru their
democracy, when Vlad came in.Surely you can understand the
difference between two weak and disfunctional forms of leadership. If not,
check out the Harry & Barry Show
In this world, the wisdom "If you want peace you need to prepare to have a
war" is still validated. Such thing as talks is just shown to the people
over the world that USA is weak. Action is required to show your determination
and power. Unfortunately, USA weakness is injecting instability over the world.
American voters should be blamed because they choose a wrong leader over this