97 percent of the 17 millon people affected would get significant raises, and 3
percent would lose their jobs.I don't want to see anyone lose
their jobs, but if you're looking at the greatest good for the greatest
number, then raising the minimum wage is the way to go.
glad to see quaker and heretic basking in a mutual lovefest. they seem to have
nailed it, they are the only ones that tell the truth. history bares it out that
libs always tell the truth. thank you for identifying with the takers vs. the
makers and continuing the liberal drivel of know what is best for others, using
their money to accomplish it.
It appears that there are a few more educated folks out there, more than I
thought possible a few years ago. Capitalism and liberty will have a chance to
right itself if enough liberty minded people realize that a civil society does
not occur with more government or government/business monopolies. It only comes
when government protects me in my individual liberties and God-given rights,
including lifting the oppressive hand of government from the weaknesses of men!
When evil and conspiring men are evicted from office, the poor will be allowed
to rise from the ashes. The poor will never rise when vain and conspiring men
can use the power of the government to suppress them. After all, it isn't
about the poor; it is about getting praise for their own hubris and vanity. It
is an ancient battle that is being played out again right before our eyes.
Union trained President Obama and his minions are union trained negotiators.
They know how to hand their detractors the dirty ind of the stick to make
themselves look good. they know nothing about modern free market economics and
care less. Just make it sound good and their no nothing voter base will vote for
them. Wake up folks, the wool is being pulled over your eyes. The people
you have put in charge of our country are suceeding in ruining it. We have a
wana be dictator on our hands.
All of the wealth in our country doesn't equal our national debt.What is Obama going to redistribute?We've been scammed!
@AntiGovernment: It's bad enough you have neither empathy nor
compassion for the working poor, do you need to mock them as well? ("... and
then they will no longer have problems in their lives!")@ennayr:Many of the people stuck in low-wage jobs already have
college degrees, and came out of school at the perfectly worst time, in the
middle of the Great Recession. There aren't jobs for all the educated and
trained people now, not even with advanced degrees. Besides, what's to
become of the 16.5 million low-wage positions in this economy? Are we just to
eliminate them, close all the restaurants, cleaning services, guard services,
laundries, garment factories, etc.? Get serious.@MainlyMe:Did you live in Australia when the minimum wage was lower? Was it easier?
What about the suburbs? Sidney is like Manhattan. Rents in Brooklyn are a
fraction of Midtown. @DnSubscriber, @Badgerbadger, @WhatInTucket,
@MonsieurLeProf: Do you have anything else other than denigrating
"Liberals"? Look up "Plutocracy" some time. A free society
needs a balance between private opportunity and public policy. Without the
latter, there is no middle class, and the upper class closes ranks.
Yea, let's keep them poor!Corporations get food stamps for their
employees.Way to go, Walmart!
Raising the minimum wage will destroy 500,000 jobs...Yikes.Lowering the minimum wage will create 500,000 jobs...So... a
minimum wage worker will now work 80 hours to make what they made in 40
hours...while attending some type of school to improve their skills to get a
better paying job...In fact... Doing away with the
minimum wage will create even more jobs.Wait a minute...So doing away with any wage will create an infinite number of jobs?The 1% is working on that concept...If the messaging can be
convincing...it just might work.Perfect.
@HappyValleyHeretic: Thank you kindly! I've enjoyed your comments as
well. Keep up the good work, speaking Truth, even if it seems lamentable at
times that some people have such made-up minds that they're immune to
common sense. This negative spin on the CBO claim reminds me of the
last one. I believe they said something like the ACA ("Obamacare")
would result in 2.5 million less people with jobs. When you looked closer, it
turned out they were talking about 2.5 million people who weren't old
enough to qualify for Medicare, who otherwise wanted to retire, still working
just for the group medical insurance.In other words, Obamacare turns
out to be a blessing for those 2.5 million people who want to retire early and
will finally be able to do so without worrying about medical insurance. Not
only that, but those 2.5 million newly freed-up job vacancies will be a blessing
for all those college grads who haven't found work yet!But,
right-wing radio was content to spin it as some kind of a bad thing. Ooooh...!
This is such an easy position to take. It has been repeated since Taft.
Actually one might call raising the minimum wage a communist technique.
Obama's main agenda is wealth redistribution. Unfortunately all that does
is produce a recession if it goes far enough. Just like their defense of the
stimulus bill. It could not and did not help the overall economy it made it
worse. Some Obama cronies benefited. How one can figure the government can
take your money and spend it better than you is beyond me. Not to mention the
proportion taken out by the bureaucracy that administers it. Communists love to
say, "the rich get richer and the poor get poorer." If you look at
really poor countries seem to have very few rich. In Haiti there are a few
millionaires, no billionaires. The rich have companies with workers and that is
where they get their income. So if their company does better they reap the
Plenty of history of what happens when you raise minimum wage.But that
conflicts with what the corporate world wants you to believe.Here's a
hint- None of what the right wing radio fans above say will happen has
ever happened before when it was raised.Thank you Quaker for a well
thought out comment in a sea of prophets.
People are hired according to their skills, and ability to help a business
grow.Of course a car dealer will pay more for a good salesman.This is a natural, and Obama doesn't need to mandate wages.Just that simple.
@Badgerbadger:"Tell Mr. President you don't think he should make
you a loser so he can randomly pick a few winners. That isn't what
democracy is about."Mr. President is not concerned at all about
wage levels. He's seeking votes for the upcoming elections such as the
Congressional this year and the presidential in 2016. He's also working on
getting the Hispanic vote by pushing Congress to get busy on an amnesty and
citizenship bill for illegals.
The one thing we know about predictions is, they're imprecise. But, like
making wishes from genie's magic lamp, even when the results exactly fit
the words, it's not always what you expected.When it comes to
minimum wage workers, especially those trying to support a family, many people
presently hold more than one job. It's entirely possible that increased
income from their full-time job might make it possible for people to give up a
second, part-time job. There are also people trying to make a living from three
or more part-time jobs.CBO's job figures don't distinguish
between full-time and part-time, don't distinguish between two workers with
one job each or one worker with two jobs.Some things are certain,
however. Nearly one in six people will experience some increase in income if
the minimum wage is raised. (Think "trickle-up.") Taxpayers will save
billions in food stamps and supplemental support programs when millions are
raised out of poverty. Let employers support their own workers.
Taxpayers shouldn't have to.Plus, raising the wage is an
economic stimulus program guaranteed to work.
Stop with the logic you guys!All that matters is that some people
earning lower wages will get more and then they will no longer have problems in
their lives!Well, that is how liberals think at least.Forget the fact they are still making $10/hr. Forget the fact that over half
a million other poor people lose the jobs they had. Forget the fact the prices
on everything wherever they work go up.Forget all that willy stuff.
Such is the life of a liberal who enjoys utopian fantasies where you
get to pick which parts of things you like and then you pretend the rest of the
consequences don't exist.
As Krauthammer said, "There's a reason why that magnificent edifice in
New York is called the Statue of Liberty and not the Statue of Equality..."
Let supply and demand dictate the wage a person makes. Most of these
minimum-wage jobs are being filled by teenagers who are not trying to support a
family, but just make some pocket money for their own needs and desires. Like most liberal ideas, the legislation is a "feel good"
idea not based in economic reality.
If you want a job that pays higher than minimum wage then perhaps you should
acquire some skills that would help move you toward a job that pays better.
Anyone can ask, "do you want fries with that?" These types of jobs are
not supposed to be for those who are trying to support a family. I worked hard
to get a degree to improve my job choices and guess what, it was costly but in
the long run very worth it. It can be done!
Having people increase their income is like paying for Hawaiian vacations on
someone else's dime.
I'm an American living in Australia and I can tell you that a high minimum
wage simply does not work. The minimum wage for a casual worker here is more
than $21/hour, but it simply isn't enough. With a raise in the minimum
wage you get a corresponding raise in housing, food, fuel, heating, electric,
transportation, etc., all across the board. A cheap, dump of a house to rent in
Sydney costs at least $2000 a month. Electric for that house costs more than
$300 a month and that's without a clothes dryer and very minimal air
conditioning. Tack on another $60 to $70 a month for that. Gasoline is
currently nearly $1.76 USD a litre (that's $6.68/gallon). For 3 people, it
costs at least $200 a week for groceries. It still takes two incomes at more
than $21/hour to make ends meet.Sure, raise the minimum wage. It
If you happen to be one of the fortunate ones who benefits from this minimum
wage change, then kudos to you. But if you happen to be one of the
half million people who lose their jobs because of this increase in the minimum
wage, it's about the worst news you could get.
So raising the minimum wage amounts to the government picking winners and
losers, again. Some will get a raise, making them the winners. Others will lose
their jobs, making them the losers.Of course prices will go up, the
economy will be slowed, which makes everyone, except those staying in minimum
wage jobs, losers too. Tell Mr. President you don't think he
should make you a loser so he can randomly pick a few winners. That isn't
what democracy is about. It is not what a democratic republic is about. It is
not what the USA is about. To the liberal wealth distributors here,
please realize that the ones who will pay the highest price will be those in
minimum wage jobs now, who will have no job when the wage goes up. It won't
do diddly squat to the rich. It is the low income people who will pay.How
could you support hurting these people?
Why only $10.10 per hour? Why not allow low skill, low motivation
workers to really enjoy life? Make the minimum $50.00 per hour, or even more,
so they can live like a lawyer, or a brilliant surgeon, but without wasting all
the time and work to actually acquire skills that are in demand. Heck, raise
the minimum pay to match that of a movie star or sports champion, and let's
really enjoy live!Any time the minimum wage is increased, it drives
up the wages for every level above that. Since NO ONE is actually contributing
more productivity for the increased wage, employers have no option but o
increase the prices on their products. So, the new "higher" wages end
up buying no more than before. And the higher wages and prices fuel inflation
which destroys the real value of any money that anyone frugal has saved.Please, do the poor a favor, and keep Obama and his politician cronies
out of any economic decisions, they ALWAYS get them wrong!