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Published: Thursday, Feb. 13 2014 7:00 a.m. MST

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joemakati
Slidell, 27

The Mormon flourish, and no body can't stop it, get use of it.

donn
layton, UT

RE: Redshirt1701, Jacob 2:19…,"if ye seek them; and ye will seek them for the intent to do good, to clothe the naked, and to feed the hungry, and to liberate the captive, and administer relief to the sick and the afflicted."

The Mormon church has no hospitals and only a handful of primary schools. Its university system is limited BYU in Utah, Idaho and Hawaii, and LDS Business College. Seminaries and institutes for high school students and single adults offer religious studies for hundreds of thousands.

In contrast, the Seventh-day Adventist Church, which had about 17 million members a year ago, appears to be getting a better return on investment: It builds smaller meeting houses and lots of schools and hospitals.

"The Seventh-day Adventists clearly have a much more expansive humanitarian project in terms of building hospitals and medical schools and schools and universities and long-term developmental infrastructure around the world," Aug 13, 2012 ,

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SLC_Mormon
Salt Lake City, UT

Birder

I see why they would want to buy the block next to the temple because maybe its a rough neighborhood but what about the block adjacent to the mall or the one next to that? Where does it stop? If we can convince ourselves that building malls are what God wants then what could be next...

All this money going into developments when I know first hand that in many wards around the world members are going hungry. I talked to a bishop in Africa and he said 60% of his members don't have enough money to feed their families. When I hear that I feel like this building is a bit unimportant to those members.

Ralph
Salt Lake City, UT

Just because Jesus beat up the money changers doesn't mean that the Heavenly Father is averse to making a little prophet.
I think it's great that the LDS church makes money. Why shouldn't they?
They have as much right to capitalist endeavors as any other entity in this wonderful country. That's what made this country great!

Shelama
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Whatever the benefits and whatever the good will come of it, it getting harder and harder to see where the Mormon concept of "Kingdom of God" resembles very much the "Kingdom of God" that the Galilean peasant taught along the dusty back roads among the downtrodden poor and marginalized.

iron&clay
RIVERTON, UT

@ atl134

Yes it is true that Jesus was not ostentatious while in his mortal ministry. He was born in a stable. No opulence there. His mortal mother was forced to travel from her hometown of Nazareth to pay taxes/tribute to the powerful world government. The only visitors that Holy night were shepherds in a stable where animals gave place in a manger.

Jesus is now a glorified resurrected being. He is the Son of the Most High, Man of Holiness. We see 'Holiness to the Lord' etched in stone on His Temples.
If you think his authorized servants, the Quorum of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Council of the Twelve, have business acumen, you are right.

These small business ventures in creating architectural splendor against the backdrop of the building blight of inner cities will be as nothing compared to the profusion of abundance to be displayed at His second coming in clouds of Glory.

Tasha B
A Place, UT

@esquire. Actually, Philly can be pretty rough in certain stats. For example its murder rate is higher, numbers wise, to Chicago, NYC, and LA even though it has fewer people. Though the area near the temple is definitely not one of those rougher areas

As for the building. Another article I read mentioned it was to keep with the promise of investing in Philadelphia made with the city earlier. I'm pretty happy about it, personally. Philly could use the boost, especially with it's high unemployment rate compared to the rest of the state.

bj-hp
Maryville, MO

Those that are criticizing the building of the tower do not understand at all how the finances of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints actually works.

One poster above mentions that most of a ward in Africa is having trouble meeting their financial needs. What they fail to understand is that there are budget matters that allows the ward/branch to meet its obligations pertaining to their sacrament attendance. Fast offerings are used to assist those who are in need. It only a temporary solution, not a permanent solution. The LDS Church teaches self-reliance. Unfortunately, the United States welfare program decides we as a nation give to the poor but fails to teach anything else.

The Gospel of Jesus Christ teaches that a man is reliant upon himself and thus the LDS Church tries to meet these needs on a temporary basis. Once they are able to become more reliant then less assistant is required. The perpetual education fund is what helps some of these individuals to become self-reliant. You don't just throw money out there and hope to get someone out of trouble. It takes a lot of sacrifice.

I know it. I Live it. I Love it.
Provo, UT

Open and honest,

I'm against selling a market in the temple, "selling salvation" if you will. I'm not against buildings homes next door. In fact, I love the idea. Does that make me horrible? No.

If you don't have the spirit with you, you'll never understand the scriptures.

sukiyhtaky
us, CA

Perhaps this is a benevolent gesture to add low income housing to downtown Philly? Lets hope so because I don't think Jesus would look kindly on more housing for the 1%. I'm going to think positively and believe it is.

ulvegaard
Medical Lake, Washington

It would seem that every time the church announces a project red flags start waiving all over the place. The buildings are eventually built, the surrounding area is greatly enhanced and then the 'nay' sayers hang on the edge of their seat waiting for the next announcement to be made so that more criticism can be voiced and more complaints can be filed.

For a generation now we have tried to enforce the notion that religion must be confined to Sunday mornings and securely locked behind sanctuary doors so as not to disturb the population at large. We have successfully removed the notions of right and wrong from society and now are wondering why our politicians are so untrustworthy.

The LDS church seems to have vision. They preach of improving lives, so let them work to build a better society and not just a secluded chapel behind a thorny hedge.

Rikitikitavi
Cardston, Alberta

The LDS Church is unrelenting in doing good around the globe. Compassion for others who are in dire need leads to countless humanitarian projects which extend far beyond disaster recovery. In Philadelphia the building announced by the Philadelphia media is an example of how this project is welcomed by that city. For temple workers and patrons what a relief to be so close and not have to fight traffic. What a blessing to serve in the evening and not have to be afraid being out after dark in the city.

PP
Eagle Mountain, UT

atl134 "Jesus didn't start a carpentry business and proclaim that hiring a bunch of workers while making a good profit was his purpose."

Are you sure? At the age of 30 Jesus quit working and turned his life over to the Ministry. He had no income for the next 4 years of his life. Maybe his carpentry business made a little more profit than you know. Not many people are in a financial position to take the next 4 years off.

Esquire
Springville, UT

@ SCfan, why, oh why, did you have to pull Obama into this discussion? Please stop with the irrational obsession. He has nothing to do with any of this.

@ Tasha B, I know Philly really, really, really well....

cambodia girl
Phnom Penh, Cambodia

I think this is wonderful news. The Church was restored in a free nation, what better place to have a Temple built than the city where the Declaration of Independence was signed. I'm sure it will be lovely!

wYo8
Rock Springs, WY

besides tithing and fast offering funds. there use to be a ward or stake building fund plus the local budget fund. These funds are no longer needed because of the church investments, etc.

Owl
Salt Lake City, UT

Esquire
Springville, UT

The Philadelphia project is similar but larger than the Manhattan Temple. SLC Mormon needs to understand that all commercial property owned by the LDS church is tax paying. It is incorrect to believe that PRI is owned by the church and therefore is the church. The IRS doesn't see it that way. Only those that are for religious purposes are tax exempt. The after tax profits from commercial properties are used for multiple charitable purposes that are seldom publicized and are not paid to share holders. That is far better for the tax payor than to have a private equity fund build the tower.

Xbalanque
DC, VA

This is great for Philadelphia. Like, like, like!

BehindTheGoldenCurtain
San Diego, CA

When the San Diego Temple was built it was the most expensive project the Church had ever undertaken and there was a lot of criticism about the cost. To quote President Hinckley when speaking to a group of members while visiting San Diego to review the progress of construction he said, "Nothing is to expensive or to good for the Lord." I don't see anyone calling for the Church to sell or tear down the Temple. I'm sure the same will happen in Philadelphia and that the people will come to realize what a good decision this was in years to come.

BrentBot
Salt Lake City, UT

The New York City (Manhattan) temple is adjacent to a tall church-owned apartment building. It provided the flexibility of using part of the apartment building for ward classrooms, and housing for the temple presidency and full-time workers.

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