See which players have signed with the Cougars, Utes and Aggies
If Utah's average star was .00000001 higher than BYU's, ChrisB would
be praising the Pac-12 gods all day long and singing how much better Utah is
over BYU. BYU beats them by a .07 star rating and he downplays that it not such
a big deal. You just cant win with his logic. I am stoked about this
recruiting class! BYU went out to recruit some higher profile kids and pulled in
quite a few of them! cant wait for spring practice and on to the 2014 season! Go
It would be interesting to know how much of the star ranking system is driven by
who recruits athletes.If you look at the numbers, it's sure
tilted towards the SEC. Seven of the top ten recruiting classes are at SEC
schools (USC is the only PAC-12 team in the top 10 at #10). There
were 30 five star athletes listed as committing to top 25 teams, 18 of those
committed to SEC schools, only 2 to the PAC-12 (both to USC).And
within the PAC-12, it really was a down year for Utah. There are 57 4+ star
athletes committed to Utah schools, one of those is going to Utah. USC got 11,
UCLA got 11 and Stanford 7.
@ CBI am not arguing your point.I am just saying most credible
sources, papers,and books use more than one source.I couldn't publish
my papers referencing one source, it would be rejected (and I would lose
scientific credibility).54-10it would be 9 of the last 1210 of
the last 12 is referencing basketball.
DuckhunterHighland, UTIt's all about performance on the
field. Like 4 in a row and 10 of the last 12.That's gotta
Congrats to the Utes getting DJ Law.That kid is crazy fast.Sounds
like a little drama in his signing.
besmart - 4 years in a row in recruiting4 yeras in a row on the fieldThink those are related?Yep!
@BeSmartutah "fans" only reference rivals because rivals
consistently over rates utah's recruiting classes in comparison to all the
other sites. In fact utah alum "fan" homers are some of the principles
at rivals so the bias is extraordinary although not the least bit surprising.
A couple of years ago utah "fan" naval vet made a big deal
in a post on here how "rivals is the ONLY recruiting site" he follows or
references. Of course that is why. When you have utah homers running a site they
are going to try to make it look like utah is doing well every year. The irony
of that is that even they have utah's class ranked pretty low this year
which would indicate to me that utah's class is even worse than they appear
since rivals over ranks them every year. You can probably drop whatever ranking
rivals has given them another 5-10 spots at least to get a true picture of what
@chris bYou continue to spout this fallacy:"Highest
average star for a class is still the best way to rank classes. Utah has won
that 4 years in a row,"No they have not. BYU's class
averaged more stars in 2010 and now again in 2014. utah's averaged more in
2011, 2012, and 2013. By BYU math that is 3 years, perhaps utah math is
different? Do you guys just use an "about" rather than an actual sum?
I agree with BeSmart. Espn only rates Barton 3 stars and scout.com also rates
him lower but still 4 star. I honestly don't know why Bronco didn't go
after him, and we may never know why, but I think he's pretty happy with
the class he signed...four 4 star guys and a couple of good late additions
including Nacua, which I thought CB was bragging about going to Utah a few weeks
@ CBPlease reference other recruiting outlets.broad knowledge is a
lot more impressive.Per scout Utah five year running average is a within a
few percentage points. Same with Espn, and 247 sports. Rivals ranking is based
on offers from power conference schools, other outlets have scouts.
TMurph,And thats why head to head is fun to look at it, but mostly
irrelevant. Highest average star for a class is still the best way to rank
classes. Utah has won that 4 years in a row, sometimes by up to .6 stars, which
yes is quite a bit. There is a big difference on AVERAGE between a team of 2.4
stars and a team of 3.0 stars. This year byu leads by .07 per rivals currently.
It would be the first win for byu over Utah in 5 years, on the field OR in
recruiting. Although a .07 difference is hardly worth bragging about.
Nice to see USU start to make a splash on the recruiting front, and nice to see
Utah pull kids in from other places. Lots of speed in this class.@WiscougarfanCongrats on another February Championship!
A fair and logical comment by Chris B. I agree with you that BYU would have
wanted him, but I don't think that changes the fact that BYU did well head
to head versus Utah this year.
@Wiscougarfan,The only thing I'd add about head to head is why
wouldnt bronco offer 4 star Jackson Barton who could have gone to almost any
school in the country? Thats a win for Utah over byu even if Bronco didnt offer
because he knew he wouldnt get him. And pleaes dont tell us he didnt want a
local 4 star kid - every coach in the nation basically wanted him.
All three of the “big three” Utah schools did fairly well in
recruiting this year. USU got several players who had other quality D1 offers
and their class ranking is in the top 100. Utah beat out several PAC12
opponents for some great athletes and ranked in the 60-70 range. BYU
“widened” their net and got quality recruits from all over the
country. They also ranked in the 60-70 range. There was much less
head-to-head competition this year between schools as recruiting target areas
have shifted dramatically over the last few years. However, BYU easily won the
head-to-head in 2014. The beat Utah 4-1 (Kaufusi, Bushman, Fonua, Warner to
Utah’s Christiansen), and beat USU 3-0 (Kaufusi, Kurtz, Cook). Utah beat
USU 4-2 (Luavai, Hughes, Christiansen, and Barton to USU’s Tauteoli and