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Published: Monday, Jan. 20 2014 10:30 p.m. MST

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Oatmeal
Woods Cross, UT

I believe that if we want to save gun rights, we have to get our wives and daughters to the shooting range. If Second Amendment rights and shooting/hunting sports survive in this country, it will be because women support them.

P.S. Be prepared to have the women out-shoot you once in a while... with their fine motor skills, they are amazingly good.

Lobotech
Grantsville, UT

Fire arm training is an equal opportunity issue. If the female is fortunate enough to out shoot me, I note her technique and incorporate the best features.

samhill
Salt Lake City, UT

Interesting that the percentage of women seeking to own a gun and be trained in its use had gone up so fast during the most gun averse Federal administration in history.

Could it be more than mere coincidence?

pragmatistferlife
salt lake city, utah

"the most gun averse Federal administration in history."

That is not even close to being true. It isn't even in the universe of truth. Go back and check previous gun laws. How new gun laws has this administration passed..none. What have they proposed background checks and high capacity limitation.

Coincidence, not by a long shot. It's the result of mass paranoia,& mass marketing.

justamacguy
Manti, UT

The 2nd Amendment is a right not to be treated lightly. It is sad we have to arm ourselves beyond recreation and food for the table. The fact that the 2nd Amendment has to be exercised beyond that proves there is something wrong with our society. "60 Minutes" pretty much hit the nail on the head with their piece entitled "Patients as prisoners, jails new mental health institutions". In our rush to be a more civil society we have acted out of emotion to close mental hospitals declaring them inhumane. Now the jails have become the new insane asylum where the mentally ill get no help and are then dumped back on our streets as an endangerment to us. Yet certain, so called, intellectuals continue to blame inanimate objects for the problems in society rather than seeking real solutions. Even the media seem to be oblivious to this fact. Even though these people are "criminally insane" the irony is that they are not stupid to self preservation. The knowingly pick soft targets for their crimes. That fact, that is repeated constantly. I was totally blown away when the KSL news anchors quoted "gun free zones" as a solution the other night.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

Perhaps women are arming themselves because they know that a gun in their hand is much better than a cop on the phone!

southmtnman
Provo, UT

Statistically, a woman is more likely to be harmed or killed by her husnpband or boyfriend. Men should be paying attention and changing their ways. Women have had enough.

Vanceone
Provo, UT

Wait, what? I'm confused. According to the Democratic party, the recommended self defense for women involves screaming, pissing your pants and puking on your attacker. Ask any Democratic state representative from Colorado. Beyond that, if that doesn't deter the attacker, then just lie there and think of England, I suppose.

I mean, wouldn't it just be awful if a woman shot her attempted rapist? How could she be so callous or something like that?

airnaut
Everett, 00

Just like the ancient Nephites --

As our socitey de-volvles into anrachy,
the conservative answer is "every man or woman for himself".

Eliyahu
Pleasant Grove, UT

If we listen to popular opinion, Utah is a dangerous and lawless state where it's everyone for himself, and survival depends on being able to get the drop on all your neighbors. If I believed that, I'd go back to my native Brooklyn, where I never felt the need to carry a gun.

Vince Ballard
South Ogden, UT

Actually, the dynamics of this trend can be traced back to the "Warren Supreme Court" of the 1960's which so blocked up the halls of justice that it is now virtually impossible to control the violent element of society. They are also those who dismantled our mental health system in the name of "civil rights". Fifty years ago, few people felt the need to carry firearms for immediate protection, and in fact the laws of most states forbade it. Now, the evening news is all that is necessary to convince more people of both sexes that they had better be armed, and current "shall issue" laws reflects this change of opinion. If anti gun liberals,(and there are more pro-gun liberals emerging all the time) want to know how this phenomenon has come about, they need only examine their own failed policies. "We have met the enemy and he is us".

What in Tucket?
Provo, UT

This is a very good idea. Just showing a gun usually stops the action. Where ever people own guns the more they have the less crime. Apparently the Detroit Chief of Police on Fox said more people in Detroit have guns so the perps have started to wear vests and avoid homes. Guns reduce violent crime.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

Now an increasing number of women can feel personally responsible when their children are killed by their own gun.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ Stalwart. More children die of drowning than from firearm accidents. We would save more lives if we banned swimming pools, lakes, rivers and creeks!

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

According to reliable statistical data reported in 2009 covering the years 1904-2006, from the National Center for Health Statistics (1981 on) and the National Safety Council (prior to 1981), while the number of privately owned guns in the U.S. is at an all-time high, and rises by about 4.5 million per year, the firearm accident death rate is at an all-time annual low, 0.2 per 100,000 population, down 94 percent since the all-time high in 1904.

Ryan9
Grantsville, UT

I'm glad to see more women are getting trained in the use of firearms. Anyone, male or female, that is not thoroughly trained in the use of firearms should not carry them. They will have no idea what to expect in a situation that would require them to defend themselves. Just the physiological changes that occur in such stressful situations is enough to completely immobilize most people unless they train for it.
Thanks to the press for having the guts to say something somewhat positive about guns. I hope they will be allowed to continue to do so.

atl134
Salt Lake City, UT

@samhill
"Interesting that the percentage of women seeking to own a gun and be trained in its use had gone up so fast during the most gun averse Federal administration in history."

Nobody would buy a gun because of fear that the gov't will take their then nonexistent gun away...

Another Perspective
Bountiful, UT

A number of people think that if guns were done away with the violence problem would be mostly solved. It would be nice if this were so, but before guns, murders and attacks did happen. The main difference being back then a strong person had the advantage. With the gun, physical strength makes no difference, therefore a strong thug attacking a much weaker woman is at great risk. Guns help women more than they do men. It seems natural that women would recognize this and adopt a protective gun for their use.

Police are great at investigating crimes, but only so so at stopping them. They can't always arrive in time.

Stalwart Sentinel
San Jose, CA

Mountanman (sic)

1 - Your point on rivers, lakes, etc... is a non sequitur. Water in general has multiple uses outside of causing death (ie sustaining life) whereas a gun is specifically and exclusively designed to kill. When someone drowns it is an accident, while when someone is shot and killed the gun is functioning precisely as engineered - it is not an accident. I'm sorry but the two are not comparable in any way.

2 - The net number of guns owned is at an all-time high but the net number of households that own guns has steadily decreased for many decades. Thus, a fewer number of people are purchasing a higher concentration of guns. However, the percentage of people killed by their own gun has not decreased for decades - which explains your point above re: death rates. Therefore, if mothers begin to purchase guns at higher rates, all they are doing is increasing the risk their own child will be killed by that gun. For every one "intruder" that is shot by the owner of a gun in defense, there are roughly four family members killed by an owner's gun.

cjb
Bountiful, UT

Re Stalwart Sentinel

An antibiotic is designed to kill. A gun can do much more. It can ward off a bad guy making killing them unnecessary. It can be used for sport, for target practice. Just having one around can bring peace of mind. And yes if the terrorist / criminal won't take the hint to cease his evil ways, a gun can kill, whereby it saves live(s) of good innocent people.

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