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Published: Monday, Jan. 6 2014 12:00 a.m. MST

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Salt Lake City, UT

(ORDER LIST: 571 U.S.)
The application for stay presented to Justice Sotomayor and by her referred to the Court is granted. The permanent injunction issued by the United States District Court for the
District of Utah, case No. 2:13-cv-217, on December 20, 2013, is stayed pending final disposition of the appeal by the United States Court of Appeals for the Tenth Circuit.

Salt Lake City, UT

Awesome! States have the right to govern without the federal govt. intervening. It's not a right to have homosexual sex as a man and declare under the constitution that you are now a women and I titled to the same benefits that are reserved for real women.....this is known as the gays water down women....gays war on women!

not from utah, 00

Awesome news!!! Great to see some sanity to the ridiculousness that 1 judge can invalidate the decision by the citizens of a state with the swipe of a pen.

Homosexuality never was, nor will it ever be marriage.

I challenge any LDS member to detail how homosexuality is congruent with the plan of salvation and is doctrinally sound.

Salt Lake City, UT

'Great News. I expect now to see negative posts from a very well designed campaign from the gay community around the world telling Utahns that we are bigots etc.'

So has anyone actually CALLED you a bigot…?


Why is that?

Because people in this state are showing their Hate.

Gay marriage factually did nothing to bring any harm to any citizens, but we are hearing all kinds of false quotes from God today, aren't we?

Nothing like threatening people with burning in a lake of fire for eternity to show how much you are 'not' against them, right?

Theocracy aside, LGBT are first and foremost, human beings.

Vilifying them by claiming you are 'oppressed' when no factual example is present? Is a false flag.

What did Jesus say about False Witness?

Straight couples in Utah have access to the 1,100+ rights and legal protections of marriage.

LGBT Americans, do not.

If your God teaches you to lie, and treat people differently and promote discrimination.

It is a bad one.

There You Go Again
Saint George, UT

Conservatives want the government/courts off their backs and out of their business...

Unless, of course, their business is other peoples business.


Actually sotomeyer is one of the more liberal judges on the scotus and this indicates where the court itself probably falls on the issue. Not that the libs on the court are not in favor of gay marriages but that they realize it is a perogative of the individual states and not something the judiciary has the right to "legislate" on an unwilling populace. Occasionally they get things right despite their own bias.

This is a slap down of judge shelby and he is no doubt humiliated by it. Kinda funny.

Park City, UT

Uncle Rico,

Nice when the oppressor plays the martyr card.

Let the courts decide without all of the hype and emotion.

Portland, Oregon

@Charlemagne - There are two kinds of marriage: secular and religious. Due to the U.S. Constitution's freedom of religion imperative, while the state may not impose its power over religious marriage, it may impose its power over secular marriages. Just as the state should keep its nose out of religion unions and the free exercise thereof, religion should do likewise and keep its nose out of secular unions.
The secular freedom of two individuals to marry (regardless of gender) does not weaken the status of any religious freedom nor any marriage performed under such auspices except in the small minds of people unwilling to allow others to exercise their free will to decide for themselves with whom they want to share a life.
While I believe in the sanctity of Temple Marriage, I also understand that each person must be afforded the same freedom of choice within their own lives. It is not the right of the Church or its members to impose their beliefs on other persons...something the Church has found itself fighting against from opponents since its restoration.

New to Utah

SCOTUS made a wise decision. Judge
Shelby was ruling from the bench.

Leesburg, VA

>>The Attorney General's office was the one that was supposed to apply for the stay. Why should have Shelby done their job for them?

The AG's office did apply for the stay. Shelby rejected it. So they appealed. The fact that SCOTUS overturned Shelby and imposed the stay makes him look bad. No judge ever wants to be overturned by the Supreme Court, even on a procedural matter.

Salt Lake City, Utah

The interesting thing about this is that the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals has stated they don't think the State of Utah will win the appeal.

I wonder if the new AG will remember to request a stay?

@ Cats: Any "good" lawyer (heck any first year law student at even the most pathetic law school) would know to request a stay and would know that Judges cannot rule on motions that are not before them. You want to see judicial activism and overreach? Start demanding judges do whatever they want instead of being restricted by the motions before them.

The voice of the people has never had the power to take away the rights of the minority.

Provo, UT


Yes, it would have been helpful if SCOTUS had not dodged the issues behind Prop 8, but applying "equal protection" as articulated in the 14th amendment is not as straightforward as you suggest. That amendment was adopted to address civil rights such as voting for recently freed slaves. Marriage is not a civil right like voting. (At least I have not seen the SSM folks make any compelling argument for this position.) And those in same-sex relationships are not slaves. Marriage is about much more than the affection of two people-it is the foundational institution of our society and we need to be very thoughtful about such radical efforts to change its makeup.

Uncle Rico
Sandy, UT

@ Pagan

Nice try with trying to compare Polygamy and Homosexuality. Any third grader could tell you a natural vs unnatural act.
Its "Reasoning" like this where you can yell all you want, and it still doesn't make sense.

Centerville, UT

I hope Shelby recognizes his mistake in not issuing the stay immediately.

He should be removed from office.


This is just one more reason why I will never, ever walk into an LDS church ever again.

Fort Wayne, IN

How the US Government is attacking the Family. Definitions below from US Census dot gov.

1)A married couple, as defined for census purposes, is a husband and wife enumerated as members of the same household. The married couple may or may not have children living with them. The expression "husband-wife" or "married-couple" before the term "household," "family," or "subfamily" indicates that the household, family, or subfamily is maintained by a husband and wife. The number of married couples equals the count of married-couple families plus related and unrelated married-couple subfamilies.

2)A family is a group of two people or more (one of whom is the householder) related by birth, marriage, or adoption and residing together; all such people (including related subfamily members) are considered as members of one family.

3)A household consists of all the people who occupy a housing unit. There are two major categories of households, "family" and "nonfamily".

Bremerton, WA

Loved the quote from sunshiner! I am happy about this ruling also. God created man and woman - not man and man or woman and woman. They were also told to "be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth. Two men or 2 women can't do that without science stepping in to help.

Jeff in NC

It's interesting to see that everyone calling Shelby an "activist" judge also says something in their post that indicates their religion is the reason they would use to uphold the law to ban gay marriage. A judge who cites religion as the reason to uphold a law...now THERE is an activist judge. In this case, all the state of Utah has to do is to give a reasonable basis (not religious principles) for why the law is needed, and it wins. Shelby said there was no reasonable basis, and I still haven't heard one yet either.

1.96 Standard Deviations

Visitor from California-

You want equality for all? Does this mean you are also suggesting equal tax rates for everyone -- from the super poor to the super rich?

Since the Obamacare individual mandate is a "tax" as well, are you suggesting everyone should be equal and pay the same monthly insurance premiums -- whether poor/rich, smokers/non-smokers, healthy/unhealthy and so on?

Setting aside the "equality" argument, so-called same-sex marriage is a moral issue. It's unfortunate it has been twisted to become a civil issue in our day.

utah, UT

IT is the basic difference between natural law and unnatural law. Marriage between a man and a woman, as defined in the scriptures, is natural. Anything else is unnatural!

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