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Published: Thursday, Dec. 19 2013 11:56 a.m. MST

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mohokat
Ogden, UT

I an personally calling every advertiser on A&E and informing them of my boycott. Starting with Sears.I plan on returning some chrstimas gifts I have purchased there.It is time that free speech is defended. If you don't like what someone says don't listen to them or in this case watch them. Good for you Phil.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

@SCFan

"If there were a proposed constitutional amendment that said that no slur or slander against any minority group will be legal, and only slurs and slanders against the majority would be allowed, I wonder who would approve of it? In this PC dominated country we live in today, I suspect many would."

I wasn't aware that he was losing his freedom over this. I didn't know the PC police were going to haul him to jail. A&E is a private company and can do what they want with their programming. He has freedom of speech, and he gets to "suffer" through the consequences of that speech.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

I congratulate him for sticking up for what he believes and for good values and morals.

Keep up the good work!

Hamfischer
American Fork, UT

No one violated his freedom of speech. He was able to say what he wanted. The magazine was free to publish that. There was no censorship. That doesn't mean that his comments don't have consequences.

Aloha Saint George
Saint George, Utah

Did I hear 'Political Correctness'? Don't wanna hear that the 'King has no clothes'.

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

CHS 85: "Have any of you even seen the show? I can't understand why it is so popular. I gave up after two episodes. ...it is just mindless television..."

I can't believe such hate speech made it past the forum moderators. Such obvious anti-redneck bigotry must be squashed right now. You can't say stuff like that and hope to hold on to your job. Only haters do not embrace the redneck lifestyle. You are just lucky you didn't say something like "their beards are ugly". Otherwise, you would have really crossed the line.

SoCalChris
Riverside, CA

He was asked by a reporter for a men's magazine what he thought was sinful, and he gave his honest answer. That's too much for the PC police.

ZorroPC
Park City, UT

UtahBlueDevil - check the facts, he did make the comment "off the payroll'

2 bit
Cottonwood Heights, UT

I don't know if I would characterize his comment as "ANTI-Gay". He just said in his opinion... it's a sin. He didn't say he hates gays or anything.

He's not the only person in the world that thinks homosexual sex is sin. Many religious people believe that. His only mistake was... he dared to SAY it... when the liberal-press was listening.

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What I'm wondering is...
Where's the TOLERANCE of other opinions?
Where's the joy in DIVERSITY of opinions?

Is diversity only acceptable when you want to diverge from normal sexual behavior? But if you admit a faith-based opinion... it's not to be tolerated???

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Many say, "Well he's on TV so he's held to a different standard". But how many reality show people and sit-com people in Hollywood (Charlie Sheen for example) have documented sex and drug binges... and we were told we need to be tolerant, they're just different?

But have an opinion based in your faith... and all tolerance goes out the window.

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They pray at the end of every show. Surely this magazine KNEW what his opinion would be. It was a trap.

Fred Vader
Oklahoma City, OK

This is not a 1st amendment issue, as A&E is not a government body. However, it is a Title VII issue. Title VII makes it illegal for an employer to take punitive action against an employee for his/her religious beliefs. Similar to the case where Ambercrombie fired two women for wearing a headscarf and claiming it didn't fit with the image of the company, A&E has "suspended" this man because his religious views do not fit with their image. The federal EEOC filed that lawsuit on their behalf. Ambercrombie was forced to settle with these women or be found in violation of Title VII, and the Fed courts in Louisiana would likewise find this action in violation of Title VII. Although I am not a proponent of lawsuits, this is one of those times it is needed to draw a line in the sand.

I applaud those supporters of GLBT's who have already denounced A&E's behavior on these postings. I am waiting for a few of the regular pro-GLBT rights posters to do the same...as they have said numerous times that they would.

justinbl
Portland, OR

Whatever happened to tolerance for different beliefs? This is a scary world we live in where only certain opinions have been deemed acceptable and anything outside of that is treated with contempt.

JBQ
Saint Louis, MO

There are some serious "free speech" issues at work in our country. The "nature v nurture" controversy in psychology alludes to the fact that the causes and effects for homosexuality are still open to valid debate. Youth see the world altogether differently than adults. Mr. Robertson does not say at what age he "picked cotton". I lived in Shreveport for about a year in my early grade school days with my dad in the Air Force. The only thing that I remember is that my mother had a maid and was very proud of that fact as a poor Irish woman. The woman was always treated with respect. Society must be very careful to impugn the motives of children with the evils of society. As Deborah Kerr "said" in "King and I" (while Marni Nixon sang), "children must be carefully taught not to hate". The appeal is their flair for "off the cuff". This doesn't mean that they are right. In fact, I am offended by some of their words. However, we as a society need to be very careful. In the 40s, this was used as a pretext for complete control.

Whoa Nellie
American Fork, UT

From the article, "What's clear is that such hateful anti-gay comments are unacceptable to fans, viewers, and networks alike," said GLAAD spokesman Wilson Cruz. Robertson's removal "has sent a strong message that discrimination is neither a Christian nor an American value."

There's no credibility in this GLAAD spokesman as Phil did not, and has not, discriminated against any specific group. His comments included seven other groups or categories of sins or sinners, so where is his discrimination? One thing for certain, Phil has much more relevance and peace than this GLAAD group will ever hope to have.

May Faith, Family, and Firearms live forever!

QUACK! QUACK! QUACK!

no fit in SG
St.George, Utah

Money is the bottom line.
Although these Robertsons look and act like a bunch of hillbillies, they should know better.
They just may have cooked the goose who laid their golden egg,,,'er the duck.

Cougsndawgs
West Point , UT

Freedom of speech like every other freedom we enjoy, doesn't mean there are no consequences or repercussions for exercising that freedom. I have the freedom to drink as much alcohol as I want, but I'm also liable for the consequences of my indulgence.

I love DD, and admire their family values. I think A&E is being ridiculous by allowing themselves to be bullied by GLAAD (never thought I'd say that til now). However, that being said, A&E does have the right to hold their employees and representatives to a standard. I certainly can't say whatever I want at my job and expect to keep it. For every action there is a consequence, even if those actions are protected by my personal rights and freedoms...just as there is always a choice, there is always a consequence.

My advice to the Robertsons would be to show A&E that there are consequences for their actions as well. Take your show to another network, because there are plenty of networks that would love to have the Robertsons and their DD brand. Consequences can cut both ways.

Baccus0902
Leesburg, VA

"Start with homosexual behavior and......," such as bestiality, he said.

"Don't be deceived," "Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the male prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers ; they won't inherit the kingdom of God..... It's not right."

"I myself am a product of the '60s" who indulged in sex and drugs until hitting bottom and accepting Jesus.., he said in a statement..... , Robertson said he "would never treat anyone with disrespect" because they are different."

Let's see:
He equated homosexuality with: greed, drunkenness, slandering, swindlers
He condemned "male prostitution" I guess female prostitution would be O.K.
In the '60's" while "he" was indulging what was his opinion about these matters?
He became a "self proclaimed Christian" and now he has the power to judge.
Yet! he makes the false disclaimer that he would never disrespect anyone because they are different.

Is this guy for real or he is still "indulging" ?

I agree with all the comments here defending his right to express his opinion. I also defend the right of A&E to take any action they feel is appropriate. If the action is illegal Phil can fight it.

Bored to the point of THIS!
Ogden, UT

This story is a great example of what's wrong with our country. We speak of "freedoms" but anytime someone expresses their opinion they are 'punished' for it.

I believe the great philosopher Voltaire said, "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it".

If people disagree with his view, then don't support his show. I don't believe in smoking, so how do I respond... I choose not to buy cigarettes. I think its bad to drink, so how do I respond... I choose not to drink.

I realize the use of certain types of language and/or phrases are offensive. However, if a person expresses an opinion, without being crude or vulgar, that opinion should be respected regardless of whether or not you agree.

This is why our government is disfunctional... there's no civility when it comes to ideas or thoughts.

Bleed Crimson
Sandy, Utah

@ A Scientist

"You knew this was going to happen sooner or later. Religious folks with a platform will always use it to condemn their fellow man eventually. They can't seem to help themselves. How sad"

Same can be said about atheists and other nonreligious folks. They also have a platform that will be used to condemn their fellow man. They can't seem to help themselves either. How sad!

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

Robertson, quoted in article: "Neither the adulterers, the idolaters, the MALE prostitutes, the homosexual offenders, the greedy, the drunkards, the slanderers, the swindlers — they won't inherit the kingdom of God." [emphasis added]

Is it an accidental oversight or an intentional omission of female prostitutes? Perhaps in his mind female prostitution is OK. That would be convenient.

While I disagree with what he said on so many different levels, his remarks don't strike me as rising to the firing level. I'm much more troubled by his comments on race. So he never noticed blacks being treated unfairly? Perhaps he wasn't looking. No blacks confided in him, a white man, complaining that they were being mistreated by white men? Not the least bit surprising.

patriot
Cedar Hills, UT

I love Duck Dynasty. I have several T-Shirts and will continue to wear them proudly. Phil actually quoted a scripture in Corinthians in the New Testament as part of his comments regarding homosexual sex so this isn't something he just made up. I am proud of Phil for stating his views and his faith without trying to be PC. It is interesting that scum buckets like Bill Maher can belch out all sorts of vulgar hate speech toward Christians with ZERO repercussions in the media ...just another disgusting double standard that is a sad reminder of where 21st cent society is today. Also it is interesting that gays are all for free speech and freedom of expression even the violent brutality toward those that disagree with their lifestyle as well as defacing of LDS temples during prop 8 in California (remember that?). When someone else expresses non-violent opinion against them the knee jerk reaction is to FIRE the person and sensor/silence him. Ugly ugly double standard and bald faced hypocrisy.

DD will find a new home on another network and I will NOT tune into A AND E again.

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