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Published: Wednesday, Dec. 4 2013 10:40 a.m. MST

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high school fan
Huntington, UT

Yep, try and change the subject to anything away from his ongoing disasters. Obama needs to learn to govern more and to speak less and to quit stuffing people behind him on camera. The more he talks at this point, the more damage he does to himself. Set the good example and talk less and stay home for Christmas .

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

The 1st Presidency and Quorum of the Twelve Apostles:

THE EXPERIENCE OF MANKIND has shown that the people of communities and nations among whom wealth is the most equally distributed, enjoy the largest degree of liberty, are the least exposed to tyranny and oppression and suffer the least...

ONE OF THE GREAT EVILS with which our own nation is menaced at the present time is the wonderful growth of wealth in the hands of a comparatively few individuals. The very liberties for which our fathers contended so steadfastly and courageously... are endangered by the monstrous power which this accumulation of wealth gives to a few individuals and a few powerful corporations. ...were it more equally distributed, would be impossible under our form of government. It threatens the entire country. If this evil should not be checked, and measures not taken to prevent the continued enormous growth of riches among the class already rich, and the painful increase of destitution and want among the poor, the nation is likely to be overtaken by disaster; for, according to history, such a tendency among nations once powerful was the sure precursor of ruin.

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Looks like Obama is in harmony with the Brethren.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Google and watch:
Wealth Inequality in America

That your eyes might be opened, and never decieved...

Ranch
Here, UT

Greed. America's most cherished "value".

Weber State Graduate
Clearfield, UT

The true aim is to encourage envy and hostility against success and champion the idea that those with higher incomes somehow owe a portion of their wealth to those with less. A focus on "income disparity" is nothing more than code for social justice. After all, social justice dictates that those with more are not entitled to what they have and must share simply because a "disparity" exists.

Envy is a potent human emotion and is another form of greed...the demand that others give what is unearned. And it's easy to whip up hostility against those with more with a play on words such as "greed" and cloak class envy under the pretense of "fairness."

Rather than focus on upward mobility and create opportunities for those with less to improve their condition, it's simply much easier to prescribe action for redistributing wealth at the top in order to fit the progressive model of equality. Of course, a powerful progressive tax structure is the supreme instrument for promoting social justice.

Unfortunately, the President's progressive objective for equity always involves a "government" solution...and it doesn't have to be.

Ranch
Here, UT

@Weber State Graduate;

The real question is: "Should the people at the very top take all the rewards for the labor of those at the bottom"?

3.1 Timothy 5:18
“Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and “The worker deserves his wages.”

Ecclesiastes 5:11-13 (in Context) Ecclesiastes 5 (Whole Chapter) Other Translations
10.Malachi 3:5

“So I will come to put you on trial. I will be quick to testify against ..., against those who defraud laborers of their wages, who oppress the widows and the fatherless, and deprive the foreigners among you of justice, but do not fear me,” says the Lord Almighty.

Weber State Graduate
Clearfield, UT

The real question is:

Should the people at the bottom demand what those have at the top, even if their labor did not actually contribute to what those have at the top?

It's simply a red herring to claim that most people at the top callously "took" what they have off the backs and labor of those who have less...this is simply not true and does nothing more than promote bitter jealousy and hatred. That's the problem with social justice and class envy...the idea that because someone has more, they must have obtained it unscrupulously. And those who have less are owed and entitled to something that is not theirs.

James 4:2-3
"You desire and do not have...You covet and cannot obtain, so you fight and quarrel. You do not have, because you do not ask. You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly"

James 3:14-15
"But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth."

Exodus 20:17
"You shall not covet your neighbor's house; you shall not covet your neighbor's wife or his...donkey, or anything that is your neighbor's."

worf
Mcallen, TX

Is this the mind set of people?

* A burger flipper should receive equal pay of a dentist.

* Entitlement, and receiving! America's most cherished "value".

* People at the top didn't build on their work, someone else did it for them.

* It's a sin to work, and be successful, because others are struggling.

* Political leaders give over half their wealth to equalize the poor.

* If someone is poor, it's another persons fault.

* The brethren take millions of tithing payers money for lavish vacations, and are in harmony with Obama.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

@Weber State Graduate
Clearfield, UT

The real question is:

How many hamburgers did the CEO of McDonald's flip?

The PRODUCT and Production comes from the LABORER,
the PROFIT seems to only be going to the NON-Laborer.

That runs diametrically opposed to God's Law of the Harvest.

The Gadianton Robbers and Master Mahon economy 1010 is what we are witnessing in Corporate America.

Read the Book of Mormon.
It WILL be our ruin.

Just like I quoted form our LDS Prophets!

Ranch
Here, UT

@Weber State Graduate & worf;

Your position is that the laborer does not deserve a living wage for his daily labors, but the owner/CEO should get it all.

How very "Christian" of you. I'm sure Christ would agree.

GmaxD
Lehi, UT

No--income inequality is not the gravest concern. The greatest challenge this country faces is proper education of the next generation and creating a business environment that encourages more wealth creation by more people.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

If we learn anything from history we should know that such inequality will not stand. So just get ready for the chaos.

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

"The president cited the pope's question of how it isn't news when an elderly homeless person dies from exposure, but news when stock market loses two points."

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God bless our Prophets! [for the LDS Proclamation on the Economy saying the same thing.]
God bless the Pope! [for bringing this to our attention.]
God bless the President! [for agreeing and echoing his statements.]
God bless Aemrica! [and pray we wake up to the Gadianton's on WallStreet who have over taken us].

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Open Minded Mormon

Would you please give the reference to that quote you say is from the LDS Church leadership. Name of who said it, place where it was said, and date. Thank you.

SCfan
clearfield, UT

Doesn't it strike any of you as an important fact that the times when the wealthiest one percent are getting the wealthiest is during the Obama administration? The wealth gap has grown the most in these recent years? In other words, the guy who was supposed to come along and "fix" these things, is the one who is not changing anything. How does that make you who voted for him for this reason feel. You can't be happy. And you can't blame it on anyone else now, not after 5 years. Frankly, this speech by Obama reminds me of Jimmy Carters "malaise" speech, which pretty much signaled the end of his Presidency.

FDRfan
Sugar City, ID

Open Minded Mormon
Everett, 00

Great input. Please give reference.

metamoracoug
metamora, IL

Has anyone considered the possibility that it is government's policies which are creating and/or contributing to income inequality?

Billy Bob
Salt Lake City, UT

Ironic how Obama and his policies have made the wealth gap worse. Maybe "ironic" isn't the right word. More like "predictable" for anyone who really understands Obama and his policies.

Itsme2
SLC, UT

I'm no rich person, just part of the working middle-class. I do not live off of others (ie, welfare or other social programs). I'd be far more concerned about income equality if those who choose to live off the government and have the ability to do for themselves would stop taking advantage of welfare programs. You know there are many who do it. Let those who are poor use opportunities available to get themselves out of poverty. I'd be all for helping those who want to work for it.

Billy Bob
Salt Lake City, UT

Oh, also the problem with income inequality isn't the rich getting richer, since most of them are earning it. The problem is that the poor and the middle class are hurting and are not keeping up with the growth in income that the rich are experiencing. This generally is the result of liberal policies that democrats and other liberals claim will do just the opposite. Liberal economic policies hurt the poor and the middle class.

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