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Published: Sunday, Dec. 1 2013 1:56 p.m. MST

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Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Awesome.

Keep up the good work

DRay
Roy, UT

Giving same-sex unions the status of marriage is just wrong. A crime against nature. Lets see what happens when humans try to fuel up on gasoline and oil instead of fuel. It brings only heartache and problems to society. Good for the Croatians. I applaud their vote, now lets see if Democracy rules, or something else...tyranny?

The Scientist
Provo, UT

Yeah, way to go Croatia! Facing some of the worst human rights violations in the EU:

- tens of thousands of people with mental and intellectual disabilities remain stuck in overcrowded and impoverished institutions;

- as an external border of the EU, Croatia's political asylum seekers is burgeoning. Thousands of unaccompanied migrant children lack the specialized protection required by international law, and are being victimized by human trafficking and forced labor. Reception centers for asylum seekers and refugees are overcrowded and inhumane.

- the rights of ethnic Serbs and Roma are summarily denied, including access to a program designed to help Serbs stripped of housing rights during the war, as well as access to medical care and education for Roma who lack identity documents.

- Croatia ranks 62nd behind Oman and Namibia for public sector corruption.

- racial and religious persecution continues to be serious problems in Croatia.

It can only be from naive animosity against others with which one disagrees that anyone could possibly give a shout out to Croatia for anything regarding human rights and human dignity.

higv
Dietrich, ID

So the majority of people still choose to follow the mind and will of the Lord on that matter. In the US most people in most states voted to keep same gender marriage down. Devil will still holler like he did in California.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@higv
there was a time when the majority of [people supported slavery, segregation and outlawing mixed marriages but just like is happening know times change just like in California. The last four polar votes on this issue went ion favor of gay rights and poll constantly show the majority of Americans support gay marriage sorry but thats just the way American history works always moving towards a more just society.

higv
Dietrich, ID

It does not matter what the majority of people feel about the issue, Only matters what the Lord feels about it. He never will favor people of the same gender getting in a so called marriage situation. Tragic when the majority of the people disregard the counsel of the Lord on that matter. When it was up for a vote twice people in California voted not to allow same gender marriage. Democracy was destroyed by the judges.

The devil will always favorite it because he is only concerned with our misery. Won't help those he speedily drags down to hell. Knows the misery of never having a family so does what he can to destroy the family. It would be good if the majority of people asked the Lord for his opinion and went with it. Those that don't ask how can you claim to speak for God without speaking to him? Since the Lord will never favor that situation you can be assured the Devil will. I would rather follow the Lord on that issue. Not someone who wants us to be miserable like he is.

Sorry Charlie!
SLC, UT

@higv

you are free to believe what you want but we as a society do not live by your interpretations of your religion.

higv
Dietrich, ID

So only people that agree with the devil can impose there lack of morality on people but people who are Religious have to keep there mouth shut. The first amendment applies to people who disagree with you too and all laws are based on someone's morals. Besides when until recently has same gender marriage been allowed? One of the things where you can't please God without offending the devil.

intervention
slc, UT

@higv
Seriously? Who said you do not bade right to your opinion? No one is forcing you to do anything other then not violate others individual rights. If not allowing you to force others to live by your dictates makes you feel like a victim then I suppose that's the way it is going to have to be, I see no reason to appologize to the oppressor because they lost the ability to control others.

Sorry Charlie!
SLC, UT

@higv

No one is taking away your right to free speech, you have the right to your point of view and to express as you wish, you do not have the right to force others to live their lives based on those views. As a society we value individual liberties and those liberties can only be abridged when the state can show a compelling state and/or social interest in doing so. Your views of your religion do not meet that threshold, plain and simple.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

If they have a corrupt court system like we have, some activist, corrupt judge will invalidate the election and legislate from the bench. Happens all the time here.

Ranch
Here, UT

'Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these, ye have done it unto me'.

Keep on killing your Jesus, Christians. You are your own worst enemy.

Maudine
SLC, UT

@higv
No one said you do not have the right to free speech (including miss representing others) and religion you do not however have tbe right to have others to not respond to and challenge your opinions and you do not have the right to force others to forgo their rights individual liberties based on your religious beliefs and opinions.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@higv

You seem to be able to express your opinions without any real limitations as evidenced by this board and I do not see any evidence that your church doors are being bared shut. The right to free speech does not prevent others from expressing opposing views or to force others to live based on your views nor does your right to religious freedom extend to forcing others to live by your religious belief's. No one is forcing you to get married, and no one is forcing your religion to change its ecclesiastical functions.

@mountainman

I agree, how dare those "Activist" judges protect people's constitutional rights and act as a check and balance as a third branch of government, so "corrupt."

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

@dray

so protecting individual liberties is now "Tyranny?"

Contrarius
mid-state, TN

@Dray --

"A crime against nature. "

Many nonhuman animals out in nature practice homosexual behaviors. Therefore homosexual behaviors are perfectly natural.

In contrast, NO nonhuman animals have religion. So -- perhaps religion is actually the "crime against nature"?

@higv --

"people who are Religious have to keep there mouth shut."

Many religious people already support same-sex marriage, and many denominations are happy to perform same-sex weddings. This isn't a case of religion against "the devil" -- although it may be a case of people who ignore Jesus' instruction to "love your neighbor as yourself".

Nobody has to keep their mouths shut -- but it would be nice if some people would keep their noses out of other peoples' business.

"when until recently has same gender marriage been allowed? "

Same-sex marriage has been allowed in various cultures and at various times throughout human history, dating back at least to the time of the Assyrians and later the ancient Romans.

Denita
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

higv wrote:

So only people that agree with the devil can impose there lack of morality on people but people who are Religious have to keep there mouth shut. The first amendment applies to people who disagree with you too and all laws are based on someone's morals. Besides when until recently has same gender marriage been allowed? One of the things where you can't please God without offending the devil.

I am heterosexual and 100% ok with same sex marriage. I don't believe I'm satanic. I think you fail to see a distinction here that is very important. By desiring a legal, same sex marriage, gays are not imposing their morality on you. You are not required to do anything. It doesn't affect you or your marriage in the least. However, YOU are imposing YOUR morality on others by doing whatever you can to prevent a group of people from enjoying a privilege you already have for no other reason than it is against what YOU believe.

Denita
WEST VALLEY CITY, UT

Give me one non religious-based reason to oppose gay marriage. So far, nobody has been able to do it. I'm a heterosexual male who's been married for 22 years. If the gay couple next door gets married it won't change one thing about my marriage, my family, or anything else for that matter. If religion is the only reason you have to oppose something then you have no right to impose your morality on somebody who does not believe the way you do. And, no, if it becomes legal the Mormon church won't be forced to perform gay marriages in the temple, etc as they like to claim.

higv
Dietrich, ID

No one has the right to redefine marriage. Jesus's name gets invoked in any debate people choose to take. Marriage as an institution has always been between a man and women. Lets do away with people closely related marrying, People marrying there dog or a minor. Mass confusion there. Could anyone picture Jesus condoning Same Gender Marriage when he instituted it himself or his Father before the world is. People that don't think God exists I can see them not caring one way or the other. But Same gender marriage does and will hurt society as a whole.

California the Knight initive overturned, So a constitional amendment now how do they rule it unconstitutional does not make sense. When pointed out majority favor marriage how it has always been told don't know what they are talking about and the like. The Devil will always holler when people defend the sacred institution of marriage.

Stop The Nonsense
El Paso, TX

While we are on the subject of ensuring peoples' rights, why don't we talk about the rights of the millions of fetuses that are killed each year due to voluntary abortions? Who is standing up for them? While I am opposed to gay marriage for my belief in that it will negatively affect society, I would happily allow gay couples the right to marry and even adopt the children that would otherwise be aborted.

How about this idea: we outlaw voluntary abortions (except in the cases of rape, incest, and medically justified health risk to mother) and allow these children the right to live and be adopted by parents, be they gay or straight? (Thus we will have guaranteed the rights of two groups at the same time.) Any takers?

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