Staver, founder and chairman of the Christian legal group Liberty Counsel:
"Same-sex marriage represents a classic conflict with religious
freedom." "I think there will come a tipping point where the pendulum
will swing the other way as people begin to see the impact of same-sex
marriage."Does he want to say what the "impact" will
be?The end of the human race, civilization, religion?Rampant
polygamy, incest, pedophilia, bestiality?Loss of desire to marry by other
couples?Escalating divorce, child neglect, deadbeat fathers?A
handful of people: wedding photographers, bakers, florists, who think their
business is now the practice of their "religion" and everyone
else's "religion," can no longer turn away new customers.Same-sex marriage and Staver's business certainly provides him new
customers. Wonder if he might sue from being overworked, or overlooked. That
must be the "pendulum" he anticipates.
Almost a decade after MA allowed gay marriage: They continue to have
the lowest divorce rate in the country. And now 15 other states are
next in line to allow gay marriage by I believe December. I would
like everyone to take a moment this Thanksgiving.. and wonder what
all that money donated against gay marriage..could have fed this month?
A few days ago this paper ran an article about religious freedom where it talked
about religious based exemptions for pacifists. I found that a very interesting
analogy - a pacifist has the right to refuse to serve in a combat role, but does
not have the right to refuse to make cakes for soldiers who do serve in combat
roles. Nor can a pacifist refuse to rent to a soldier, or fire a veteran, or
refuse to take pictures at a military wedding. The article also
mentioned exemptions surrounding abortions - and how the more personal
exemptions are given, the more are demanded. Now, not only can individuals
refuse to assist with abortions, employers want to dictate their employees'
reproductive medical care based on the employer's religious beliefs as
opposed to the employee getting to make decisions based on their personal
religious beliefs. It is obvious that the first method is more
respectful of all those involved - and should be used when it comes to same-sex
This is all kind of like forcing kids to taste their carrots for the first time.
Some of them will yell and scream and throw tantrums -- but if the parent is
firm and patient and unyielding, one or two carrots will eventually go into the
kid's mouth. And once the kid actually tastes those carrots, he
usually figures out that they don't taste so bad after all. The
same thing is going to happen with same-sex marriages. All these anti-gay folks
kick and scream and yell about the end of the world -- but once they actually
experience the reality of living in a society with legal gay marriages,
they'll eventually figure out that the world is not ending after all.And just like carrots is good for kids, honoring the equal rights of gay
citizens will be good for the country, too.
Sorry Mr. Staver, but this is more like a river of no return. It is inevitable
that same sex marriage will be recognized by all 50 states. so stop dreaming
about turn back time.
The cat's out of the bag. And it doesn't seem to be wrecking the