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Published: Friday, Nov. 15 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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Las Vegas, NV

"Friday's vote came as Obama arranged a meeting later in the day at the White House with insurance company CEOs..." that's great the president is now reduced to an insurance salesman, the only problem insurance salesmen know their stuff, Obama is clueless, he has zero experience in doing anything. The dude is dying to vote on this, no doubt he'll vote present

Farmington, UT

So we'll see if the Senate and Harry are willing to make the President a liar or if they are willing to really help people. Oh, what a sticky wicket when one doesn't tell the truth and it catches up to them.

(Why would anyone be unhappy with Obamacare----after all, it's such a wonderful fix, a great bargain, and it's as easy to sign up for as falling off a log. In fact millions have already effortlessly enrolled online and over the phone. Plus, the coverage is indescribable.)

Cedar Hills, UT

the BIGGER news is that 39 Democrats joined with Republicans to pass the bill...the bill Barack said he will veto of course because it came from the GOP..regardless of whether it is good for the country or not. It has gotten to the point where not even Democrats are willing to follow Barack anymore seeing him as an un-moving demagogue rigid in ideology and short on common sense. The man is worse than just a lame duck because not only has his credibility gone south but his likeability is at an all time low as well. Bottom line - we are leader-less in the White House.

Bountiful, UT

From the article: “In a veto threat Thursday night, the White House accused Republicans of seeking to
‘sabotage the health care law…’”

This law will not be sabotaged by the Republicans. It is well on the way to its own demise without any Republican help. They need 7 million new enrollees to sign up to the Obamacare exchanges (state and federal) between now and the end of next March. Of that 7 million, 2.7 million have to be the young folks in order for Obamacare to be financially viable.

As of Nov 2nd, only about 106 thousand have signed up for Obamacare, while just under 0.5 million were eligible and have signed up for Medicaid. The new Medicaid enrollees will just be an additional drain upon federal and state costs for Medicare with no new revenue coming in to help pay for Obamacare.

At this rate, without significant changes to the law, Obamacare is doomed to collapse under the weight of its own financial shortfall.

Hyrum, UT

This is how changes in laws (as opposed to policies) are supposed to happen... from the legislative branch of the government and not as an executive order... the way Obama keeps trying to unconstitutionally change things.
Obama will likely veto this bill because it's not a change initiated by him. Consequently, he wouldn't get the credit for it. Heaven forbid if Republicans were to get any credit for something positive in Washington with the next election less than a year away!

Salt Lake City, UT

Everyone is focusing on the 39 Dems voting for this.

FYI? 222 Republicans voted for this, and Republicans have the majority in the house.

What did you honestly expect to happen?

Just because you have the majority in the House, does not mean you run the entire government. America is not JUST Republican.

Now that Obama is trying to ADDRESS the problem, Obama is a 'salesman' for corporations.

Keep in mind, under our last President, we were STILL being dropped, and no one did…anything.

'Wellpoint DROPS Coverage For Some Women With BREAST CANCER' - By Mary Ellen Egan - Forbes Magazine - 04/23/10

'Yesterday, an investigation by Reuters revealed that Wellpoint routinely drops coverage of women with breast cancer. According to the report, Wellpoint used a computer algorithm that automatically targeted...'

Some of the arguments about the ACA are lacking facts.

spring street

"So we'll see if the Senate and Harry are willing to make the President a liar or if they are willing to really help people."
except the fact is this law as it stands goes well beyond just helping those that like their plan to keep it. It basically guts the ACA's protections standards for all customers causing a harm not "help." At what point do we stop letting insurance companies run amok.

Sanpete, UT

Republicans need to let this go.

This is what Democrats have wanted for decades, and now they have it. Republicans and Conservatives have warned about it for the same amount of time. It's here; it's failing just like we taught people. So why on Earth would you want to fix it? This is the Democrats' mess--let THEM own it 100%.

Salt Lake City, UT

No, he's going to veto it because he just wants to delay it one year while Republicans want to get rid of it forever.

Durham, NC

"The final vote was 261-157 as lawmakers clashed over an issue likely to be at the heart of next year's midterm elections."

This is what this is really about. If they had really wanted to get the passed, simply putting a time frame on the bill.... say a two extension for people and insurance companies to get this sorted out.... it would fly through both houses and be signed. But since the bill is yet another political statement rather than a real fix, it includes language that makes its term indefinite, it will likely get a reading in the Senate.

Pass something for two years, and if need be, continue it as needed, just like they do with the budget. But no, this is about forcing people to make statement votes rather than votes they no will lead to ultimate legislation to fix the problems.

Enough political games.... lets get down to doing the real business of the people, rather than doing the business of the party.

Provo, UT

If the President was truly sorry for his "lie"... he would NOT oppose the House bill. The house bill is what everyone thought Obama was saying when he said we could keep our insurance.

Mcallen, TX

Wow! Hundreds of billions spent on shovel ready jobs. Didn't happen!

Millions spent on Solyndra. Lost tax money!

Now the the healthcare trainwreck!

Don't understand how some keep supporting our commander

spring street

no actually it goes well beyond that removing protections for new policy consumers allowing insurance to deny people with pre existing conditions and sale the same old high deductible low benefit insurance for jacked up prices.

Cowboy Dude

I challenge President Obama, Senator Reid, and Congresswoman Pelosi to take their State Health Insurance License test.

Cowboy Dude

"it's failing just like we taught people. So why on Earth would you want to fix it? This is the Democrats' mess--let THEM own it 100%."

Because, when we redistribute wealth, the economy slows down. This is bigger than health care. We must fight now for our country, not sit back and hope the President fails so we can say...told you so.

Bluffdale, UT

Cowboy Dude "I challenge President Obama, Senator Reid, and Congresswoman Pelosi to take their State Health Insurance License test."

Until then it should be illegal for them to be selling their insurance plan.

Salt Lake City, UT

$4 trillion spent on Iraq.

$24 billion spent on the Government shutdown.

$50 million spent on 47 failed attempts to repeal the ACA.

Reagan tripled the debt.

W. Bush doubled the debt.

You cannot say any of that, about Obama.

Want lower debt?

Vote Democrat.

Mcallen, TX

The web site will be fixed by the end of November--Obama


Merritt Island, Fl

No one in the administration is canceling insurance policies. The Insurance industry is on a great quest to cancel policies months before 1 Jan 2014 and when people call in a panic they are sold a policy outside the published Exchange rates and they buy. The policy holders are simply profits to these companies. Contrary to the law, policies grandfathered are being canceled as well now. Shame on them. Any system that keeps "free market" tactics like this is not good, time for Single Payer.
Every person cancelled who was walked through the Exchanges for their State or Fed found they bought a superior policy at an affordable price. You will not see people bankrupt like before. These people are much better off, especially with the provisions of preexisting conditions and they cannot be dropped. The House is doing a great disservice to the citizens of this country, bowing to the money of the industry.
To paraphrase Congressman Grayson: "Congress needs to go, and go quickly".

Medical Lake, Washington

Granted, prior to the ACA, people were unjustly being dropped from their insurance policies and something needed to be done. Now, it seems that the President has achieved his goal in making everyone more equal --- millions are being dropped from their policies.

Government was never intended to be a business. Goverments regulate the playing field, provide for the common defence, promote the general welfare and install infrastructure. They don't open shop and they don't legislate the closure of businesses nor people's life styles.

It always seemed to me that if corrections were needed for the overall medical care in this country, it could have been done in a different way than with a 2,000 page document that includes everything from Family Planning to lower dollar amounts required before businesses file 1099 forms. The next time we need to find a burglar, let's not burn down the city to do it.

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