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Three LDS Church buildings vandalized in Idaho, local station reports

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  • Contrariusier mid-state, TN
    Nov. 13, 2013 8:14 a.m.

    @mattrick78 --

    "I don't expect civil rights leaders to speak out against anything. "

    But Liberal Ted, happy2bhere, and Chris B do.

  • mattrick78 Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2013 6:41 p.m.

    Contrariusier: I don't expect civil rights leaders to speak out against anything. It doesn't mean anything. You are making too much out of nothing.

  • Contrariusier mid-state, TN
    Nov. 12, 2013 4:25 p.m.

    @mattrick78 --

    "No, but you are implying it."

    Nope. The only thing I'm "implying" -- actually, I'm stating it out loud -- is that it's illogical (and hypocritical) to expect racial-civil-rights leaders to speak out publicly against anti-Mormon vandalism when Mormon church leaders don't speak out publicly against racially motivated hate crimes.

    Ted and happy want marches and press releases? That's great -- where's the Mormon church leaders participating in marches and putting out press releases?

    I'm only pointing out the inconsistency here. It's pretty obvious.

  • mattrick78 Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 12, 2013 3:09 p.m.

    @Contrarius

    No, but you are implying it.

  • Open Minded Mormon Everett, 00
    Nov. 12, 2013 10:21 a.m.

    How can some of you jump to an inconclusive judgement and start blaming "liberals" or "athesists" or "anti-religous" folks being responsible for this crime?

    By reading the article,
    and the graffiti that was written --
    I'll bet my bottom dollar that the perpretrator is/was a MEMBER [or former-member], who felt victimized or offended in some way.

    But go ahead with your Al Sharpton, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi rants...
    because it only brings out the fool in you.

  • Flashback Kearns, UT
    Nov. 11, 2013 12:29 p.m.

    Why should we care about what Al, Jesse, Nancy, et.al say about anything? They're boneheads and what they say rarely affects us.

    This crime was mostly likely perpetrated by some idiot teenager with a grudge, just like when it happens here in the Salt Lake area. Most of these are done by teenagers. Chubbock is pretty rural. Not too many freaky anti-Mormons in that area.

    Clean up the damages to the churches, move on and let the cops handle it. Not everything is a hate crime. This is an act of vandalism, not an orchestrated attempt to intimidate Mormons.

    Some kid probabley got told to wear a white shirt to bless/pass the sacrament and got ticked off.

  • The Caravan Moves On Enid, OK
    Nov. 11, 2013 11:09 a.m.

    @spring street - SALT LAKE CITY, UT "@The Caravan Moves On nice straw man but I don't see one "liberal" here doing any such thing."

    On this article? No.

    On other articles? Yes.

    Many of them.

  • abtrumpet Provo, UT
    Nov. 10, 2013 5:52 p.m.

    I think we are all thinking a little too much about this! Some people with poor judgment vandalized some churches. Let the justice system do its job. The less we hear the better.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 6:28 p.m.

    @The Caravan Moves On

    nice straw man but I don't see one "liberal" here doing any such thing.

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Nov. 9, 2013 12:05 p.m.

    @Dan Maloy --

    "You should watch sessions of LDS General Conference.... "

    And perhaps the civil rights and political leaders being criticized by Ted and Chris have also spoken out against anti-Mormon vandalism within the confines of their own churches as well.

    Ted wants civil rights and political leaders to march against anti-Mormon vandalism. Can you please tell me of any recent incidents in which Mormon leaders have marched against racial hate crimes?

    happy2bhere wants civil rights and political leaders to publish press releases against anti-Mormon vandalism. Can you please tell me of any recent incidents in which Mormon leaders have put out press releases against racial hate crimes?

  • Contrarius mid-state, TN
    Nov. 9, 2013 11:18 a.m.

    @mattrick78 --

    "Of course Mormon leaders do not condone similar hate crimes no matter what the circumstance."

    And of course I never said that they did.

    Do you believe that civil rights leaders condone hate crimes against Mormons?

  • mattrick78 Cedar City, UT
    Nov. 9, 2013 3:23 a.m.

    @Contrariuser

    Of course Mormon leaders do not condone similar hate crimes no matter what the circumstance.

  • antodav TAMPA, FL
    Nov. 8, 2013 5:09 p.m.

    It will only get worse.

  • The Caravan Moves On Enid, OK
    Nov. 8, 2013 5:02 p.m.

    Three LDS buildings are vandalized in a single night in Idaho.

    And yet, some liberals will claim that there is absolutely no persecution against Christians.

    Riiiiight......

    Hold on, my brothers and sisters, it's gonna get worse before it gets better.

  • Dan Maloy Enid, OK
    Nov. 8, 2013 4:59 p.m.

    @ Contrariuser - mid-state, TN "@Chris B --"it speaks volumes about the "character" of the people he mentions, knowing were this done at an NAACP center we'd be hearing from them. And yet when its against a group that's mainly white and conservative? Silence."

    I haven't seen Mormon leaders speaking out against racially-motivated hate crimes. Why do you expect the reverse?"

    Contrariuser -

    Mormon leaders don't speak out against racially motivated acts of pain and anger?

    You should watch sessions of LDS General Conference. If you did, you'd know how silly your comment is.

    You're welcome....

  • t702 Las Vegas, NV
    Nov. 8, 2013 1:06 p.m.

    This happens a lot, we do what we normally do. Clean it up and life moves on - the law enforcement will take care of it as best they can. Those who came before us faced far worse this - we don't cry about stuff like this... just put your should to the wheel and push no matter how little the wheel turns that's all that matters

  • Contrariuser mid-state, TN
    Nov. 8, 2013 12:43 p.m.

    @happy2bhere --

    "Are you suggesting that Mormon leaders are not against racially-motivated hate crimes?"

    Nope, I'm leaving the "suggesting" to folks like Chris and Ted.

    I'm just pointing out the obvious logical contradiction in their claims. They expect black leaders to speak out against anti-Mormon vandalism, but they apparently don't expect Mormon leaders to speak out against anti-black crimes.

    "So if they truly cared about all hate crimes, then they should at least do a press release or something."

    Yeah, get back to me the next time one of the Mormon church leaders speaks out against a racially-motivated hate crime.

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 12:26 p.m.

    I would also add that this crime is being investigated as a possible hate crime which many of the incidents that people normally speak out against have not been. again don't get me wrong this is a horrible and inexcusable crime but your comments do noting but add to the flames. .

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 12:20 p.m.

    @happy2behere

    way to read in things never said. They stated the church does not make public statements every time there is a racially motivated hate crime just as the people listed above do not make such statements every time there is a religious or for that matter racially motivated hate crime. If the church or the people listed above made public proclamations every time an incident happened that would be all they had time for. while a disgusting display, no one died no one got physically harmed, not really on the same scale as some past events.

  • happy2bhere clearfield, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:38 a.m.

    Contrariuser

    Are you suggesting that Mormon leaders are not against racially-motivated hate crimes? As for the people mentioned like Jackson, Sharpton, ect. They have made it their business to be out speaking publically when these things happen. So if they truly cared about all hate crimes, then they should at least do a press release or something.

  • Contrariuser mid-state, TN
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:23 a.m.

    @Chris B --

    "it speaks volumes about the "character" of the people he mentions, knowing were this done at an NAACP center we'd be hearing from them. And yet when its against a group that's mainly white and conservative? Silence."

    I haven't seen Mormon leaders speaking out against racially-motivated hate crimes. Why do you expect the reverse?

  • Richard Larson Galt, CA
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:15 a.m.

    Liberal Ted,
    Perhaps they are just letting the US Dept.
    of Justice handle it.
    You know, Mormon hate crime and all.....

  • Straitpath PROVO, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 11:08 a.m.

    Clean it up. Look for the perps. Move on.

  • Chris B Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:44 a.m.

    atl134, Regardless of the wording Liberal Ted uses, it speaks volumes about the "character" of the people he mentions, knowing were this done at an NAACP center we'd be hearing from them. And yet when its against a group that's mainly white and conservative? Silence.

  • atl134 Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    @Liberal Ted
    "I wonder when Al Sharpton, barack Obama, harry reid, nancy Pelosi will come out and march against hate towards people of religious faith?

    Or maybe they're just not open minded enough to accept that people have faith in a deity over mans intellect."

    All four of them are Christians...

  • spring street SALT LAKE CITY, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:34 a.m.

    I agree with ranch this type of behavior is "Disgusting" and inexcusable.

    @liberal ted

    Why feed the fire of us against them? all you do is add fire to the flames of the type of people that would behave this way. be a part of the solution instead of a part of the problem.

  • Liberal Ted Salt Lake City, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:15 a.m.

    I wonder when Al Sharpton, barack Obama, harry reid, nancy Pelosi will come out and march against hate towards people of religious faith?

    Or maybe they're just not open minded enough to accept that people have faith in a deity over mans intellect.

  • Say No to BO Mapleton, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 10:04 a.m.

    Juxtaposed against an article about Kristallnacht 75 years ago.

  • Richard Larson Galt, CA
    Nov. 8, 2013 9:47 a.m.

    that's a shame

  • Ranch Here, UT
    Nov. 8, 2013 9:26 a.m.

    Disgusting.