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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 6 2013 12:00 a.m. MST

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worf
Mcallen, TX

Oregon 48
Stanford 17

Stanford is overrated

StGtoSLC
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Stanford is definitely not overrated. They're a top 10 team, but this year the top 3 teams are simply a cut above 4-10. Oregon should win this.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Stanford is currently picked by just about all experts to be in a prestigious BCS bowl.

That will mean Kyle Whittingham has TWO wins over BCS bowl participants, and END of season(assuming Stanford's place stays similar, it could increase or decrease) top 10 teams.

Guess how many end of season top 10 teams Bronco has beaten?

ZERO!

Guess how many BCS Bowl participants Bronco has beaten?

ZERO!

CG
Orem, UT

Stanford is either vastly over rated or Stanford's loss to Utah was a total fluke.

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

This game is an interesting barometer between stanford and Oregon.
Should be an exciting game.
Where do the experts have the other Pac-12 experts going?
Where is Utah going for instance?

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

I thought stanford was better than it is, but the loss to utah definately exposed them.

Mildred in Fillmore
Salt Lake City, UT

BYU would beat either one of these teams.

Easily.

nosaerfoecioveht
NSL, UT

Chris, my friend, you're as obsessed w BYU as most of their fans are with Utah.

Most Ute fans I know are slowly but surely moving on. Come with us.

And here's hoping Oregon beats Stanford tonight on their way to the BCS title game. The only thing better would be seeing a crimson colored stake planted outside their stadium in a couple weeks, but that's probably not happening.

Go Ducks!

Who am I sir?
Cottonwood Heights, UT

@Duckhunter

I thought Virginia was underrated but the win over byu exposed them as well.

Probably all PAC-12 teams are hoping for Oregon to win - if it leads them to play in the national championship game. It would mean a couple extra Million to each conference team. This plus 7 home games for Utah (estimates are an additional Million) this year and the increase to 75% revenue sharing (vs 50% last year) should only increase our ability to compete in the PAC-12. (This does not include any revenue increase from the PAC-12 network.) So many advantages from our conference affiliation! Go Utes!

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@who are you?

"I thought Virginia was underrated but the win over byu exposed them as well."

That didn't make a lick of sense. Try again.

As for my point, do you disagree? I thought stanford was a legit top 5 team but top 5 teams dont lose to conference bottom dwellers. After they lose to oregon they will be out of the top 10. If they play osu in the rose bowl they'll lose that one and will be borderline top 20. It is obvious at this point that they were vastly overated.

It doesn't mean they aren't a good team, they just aren't top 5, and probably aren't top 10. utah exposed them, that should make you happy but I understand the shell game utah "fans" are trying to play here. You guys want it both ways. You want to claim stanford is a legit top 5 team because you think that gives utah credibility for beating them and lets you proclaim utah to be better than they are. Yet you want to also claim any ranked team BYU beats is obviously a fraud because BYU beat them.

I understand the hypocrisy, I just don't ignore it.

nosaerfoecioveht
NSL, UT

@Duckhunter

"It's obvious at this point that they (Stanford) were vastly overrated."

Obvious to who? Not the voters. Currently they are ranked 6th, even with the loss to Utah. If that's accurate, then it would make sense that they lose to #2 Oregon and #4 Ohio State. It could still easily be said they are legitimately one of the best teams in the country, and Utah happened to out coach and out play them this year.

I understand you want to claim Stanford is "vastly overrated" because you're negatively obsessed with Utah and it makes you feel better to think they didn't beat a great team. Yet you also want to beat your chest about beating teams who used to be ranked, so you don't ever say they are currently overrated.

We all understand the hypocrisy. And actually I usually chose to ignore it.

ekute
Layton, UT

I don't know duck, Texas has not returned to the top 25 since byu beat them, while Stanford is currently 5th in in the BCS. Maybe we're not as hypocritical as you think we are.

Duckhunter
Highland, UT

@nosaerfoecioveht

Pretty hard to claim you ignore anything while making a "frantic and emotional" reply about it. lol

@ekute

Once stanford loses tonight it will fall in the rankings. If it manages to play osu it will probably lose again and drop further in the rankings. If the voters keep them ranked 6th after the loss tonight and the probable loss to osu then you may have a point but I doubt it. You see teams rise and fall in the rankings based on winning and losing, that is how it works. texas lost again the week after losing to BYU, not to mention texas got blown out by BYU whereas stanford would have beaten utah if they just ran a couple of running plays, so the situations are not exactly parallel. but texas has been steadily rising in the rankings ever since thier second loss and are once again borderline top 25. If texas continues to win, and stanford loses the gap will close. Once again that is how it works. That is why I say so many of the utah "fans" on here want to play a shell game on this.

We'll all know after the season ends.

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

Correction:

Whittingham also beat and end of season top 10 TCU team in 2008

So Kyle has 3 wins against end of season top 10 teams

Bronco?

Still zero.

LOL!

nosaerfoecioveht
NSL, UT

@duckhunter

"Pretty hard to claim you ignore anything while making a "frantic and emotional" reply about it. lol"

No, my reply was pretty calm and sensible. I think most would say your lack of intelligent response coupled with "lol" appears more frantic and emotional.

By the way, thanks for keeping up with Pac 12 football :)

talkinsports
Gilbert, AZ

Whittingham also LOST to:

UNLV(2-10)
Colorado(3-10)
New Mexico(6-7)
No Carolina(5-6)
Wyoming(6-6)
SDSU(5-7)

and barely beat Colorado(1-11) 42-35

Ifel Of'a-sofa
Alpine, Utah

Stanford and Oregon play tonight, the two best teams in the pac.

That means utah is good because of them, right?

BeSmart
Cheyenne, WY

Ifel
yes it does because we all know that UNLV was on the same level as BYU and Utah in the MWC.

ekute
Layton, UT

sofa,

Can the Utes have a little credit for beating USU and Stanford?

byu is not good because of Virginia, right?

Chris B
Salt Lake City, UT

@Sofa,

Utah beat Stanford. This means Utah is capable of beating extremely talented teams. Stanford likely ends the season in the top 10(our best guess where they will end is where they are today)

Next time byu/usu beats an end of season top 10 team let me know.

Kyle Whittingham will have THREE(or just two is Stanford drops) end of season top 10 teams.

Alabama 2008
TCU 2008
Stanford 2013

When was the last time your team did that?

LOL!

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