This is absolutely ridiculous. Can't people spend their time worrying about
something important like world peace, world hunger or even just volunteering at
a community organization who might need their help. Have they ever noticed any
other architecture around the world?
Methinks some people need more with which to occupy their time. No one church
has a monopoly on spires. Compared to the rest of the building, that spire is
completely out of place.
As we said in the 1970's, "big whoop." In Idaho
there's Boise and then there's the rest of the state. Boise tries so
hard to be a secular "big city" and at times projects a California
attitude. The rest of the state--especially Southeast
Idaho--embraces the LDS faith.
The rest of the building makes it clear that it is not an LDS temple. Besides,
they live in a area with a lot of Church influence, and it is going to come out
once in a while. What is wrong with the spire?
Put a flagpole on it and move on!
Looks like a temple? Heck no. Looks like a stretched-up stake center? Maybe. Get
a grip Boise. Paranoia is now taken to a new level.
Donn,Hey, I only get 200 words. Glad you read it. So you do
understand that the iconography of the cross is not from the very earliest days
of Christianity but was a later overlay. Right?
To,Twin Lights, From the Wiki folks: The extensive adoption of the cross as
Christian iconographic symbol arose from the 4th century...continues,However, the cross symbol was already associated with Christians in the 2nd
century,written at the end of that century or the beginning of the next, and by
the fact that by the early 3rd century the cross had become so closely
associated with Christ that Clement of Alexandria, who died between 211 and
216.The Jewish Encyclopedia says The cross as a Christian symbol or
"seal" came into use at least as early as the second century . see Colossians 2:15,
Donn,From the Wiki folks:During the first two centuries
of Christianity, the cross may have been rare in Christian iconography, as it
depicts a purposely painful and gruesome method of public execution and
Christians were reluctant to use it. A symbol similar to the cross, the
staurogram, was used to abbreviate the Greek word for cross in very early New
Testament manuscripts such as P66, P45 and P75, almost like a nomina sacra. The
extensive adoption of the cross as Christian iconographic symbol arose from the
That's it! Why not paint it like a barber pole with the Boise State orange
and blue? Also, the landscaping could include blue "grass".
Awesome!And, is it time to re-design/modify the Empire State
To:c Twin Lights, there are other Christian denominations that do not top their
spires with crosses. Early Christ centered Church architecture. The
Cross is centered, not man centered. The Pulpit (man) is to the left or
right.The altar, is elevated to the rest of the Church, The theological
implications of this are on purpose.Christian centered churches are
constructed in the shape of a cross,(cruciform) so that if you were to look down
at them they would actually look like a cross. Other symbols, e.g. dove,
Donn,First, the spire is not what tops it. Second, from this photo
a cross would not likely be visible even if present. Third, there are other
Christian denominations that do not top their spires with crosses.
I can't see any resemblance.
It is both biszrre and ludicrous that citizens in Boise would concern themselves
with this non issue. They should be happy to have the big hole filled and a nice
office building. Three people will complain about anything. It seems that the
contractor is trying to be sensitive to these people.
Never mind what this building reminds people of, it is one UGLY building - the
mast was attached to an ordinary block building - like something out of Monty
TO: Semi-Strong, Don't know if it looks specifically like a temple spire
but it does look generally like a church spire. True, But not a
Christian church, Corinthians 1:18 For the preaching of the Cross is to them
that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
In this day and age, this is what it's all about --- complaining. Elder
Boyd K. Packer once said: 'Where there are problems we'll abate them,
where there are none, we'll create them.' If you begin
any topic of discussion, there will be someone who will rush in to complain
about it -- pro or con, it doesn't matter. If you say it's a bad day,
someone will become offended and file a complaint. If you say the performer did
an excellent job, someone will rush in to counter your compliment. Its just
what our society has devolved in to.
So some people think it looks like a temple. So what?Why should
anybody cater to the PC-pines? We don't tolerate tantrums from children --
why do we tolerate them from adults?
Three complaints? Three?! And they are considering expensive changes to the
building? I'd say that was silly. The three complaints might even have come
from a group of people that egged each other on.
It does look like a rather misplaced temple spire...minus Moroni, who probably
is laughing hysterically on the other side of the veil (if you are LDS). Since
it is white, but the building is, well, building-colored, it looks mostly
undone. How 'bout a nice coat of paint?
Complaints and concerns? Huh?!?dpgrizzle: I thought that was the
Nashville temple... But no, its the AT&T building. ;)
Yeah. Not seeing what even REMOTELY looks like a temple spire. I thought if I
zoomed in on the picture....nope. Still looks like lovely building, but hardly
a temple. Please make a fuss elsewhere...
I clicked on this link because I thought it was an Onion spoof :)
This certainly should take its place at the top of the list of important things
that need to get done to make life more tolerable. Get on it right away.
So, just because there is a spire it automatically looks like a Mormon Temple?
Perhaps people don't know, but on Mormon Temples there are statues of an
Angel blowing a horn...how is that remotely the same as a Spire?
Even if the owner of the building called a press conference and stated,
"YES! We intended for it to look EXACTLY like a Mormon Temple spire. That
is the effect we purposefully wanted! We hope everyone in the world thinks it
DOES look exactly like a temple spire! That was our absolute motive in
designing it that way!"SO WHAT?!?!
Looks like the NSA will need to find a different spot for it's covert
antenna array.Honestly, folks-have you any idea what it will cost to
bring scaffolding to change this thing? Why not just paint it black, or even
navy blue or orange? Dudes! Get creative here. Nobody ever accused
the Eiffel Tower, the Chrysler Building or many newer structures moving back to
an art deco look, of being religious. Tell these three complainers to google
"Liberty Place" to catch changes in new world architecture. Before adding unnecessary public expense, I'd use the media by showing
photos of these famous buildings (to show it's not a "Mormon
Thing") run them on the front page of the largest newspaper there, and take
a public opinion poll. Looks to me like Boise is ahead of the new wave in
architecture, but I guess that bothers some old timers. Don't let a few
squeaks get to you, mayor!
really seriously how does this look like a temple ? ok guess some are just
I haven't read all the comments, but someone must have said something about
the lack of an Angel Moroni statue. Most LDS temples have the Angel Moroni
statue on them.
This is the same state where residents complained about the flag flying at half
staff when President Benson died. Really.
The article doesn't say if it is LDS people or non-LDS people complaining.
In looking at the photo and thinking about it, I really can't see why
anyone in either group would care, let alone complain.You can't
please all the people all the time, so don't try.
I looked at the picture and thought "what in the world are they talking
about?" Maybe they could mount a bowl-shaped piece of metal part way down
the spire--make it look like a satellite dish? Add a little water and turn it
into a giant bird bath.
Much ado about nothing.
Have you seen the Boise Temple? I'd rather look at this building.....
I don't know that it looks like a temple, but it's definitely a bad
look for a sky rise. Pretty weird!
Really? the building looks nothing like a temple. Boise's population is
212,000, they've gotten 3 complaints, it's much ado about nothing.
Spires are not an unusual architectural motif. A quick Google image search on
the phrase "Nashville skyline" will reveal a skyscraper even more
evocative of an LDS temple.Perhaps it should be the LDS Church
protesting, or else the residents of Boise should acknowledge that imitation is
the sincerest form of flattery.
I didn't know Boise even had any big buildings.
If I understand correctly, this is a privately owned building. The owners are
free to design it as they see fit. If the design turns out to be unpopular,
then the owners will likely change it (as they seem to be doing) so that the
building will be a profitable investment.Concerning the statement
that the building is like a temple, nothing could be further from the truth. A
spire, though it is an attractive adornment, is not what makes a temple. All
temples are built and operated by the authority of the Holy Priesthood. They
are dedicated to the Lord and bear the inscription "Holiness to the
From the picture with this article, it takes a big stretch of imagination to
believe that building looks like a temple. I would think Idaho would have more
important things to concern themselves other than this non issue.
"My native country, thee,Land of the noble free,Thy name I
love;I love thy rocks and rills,Thy woods and TEMPLED hills;My
heart with rapture thrills,Like that above."~Samuel F. Smith
They just need to put an angel on top of it.
Don't know if it looks specifically like a temple spire but it does look
generally like a church spire.More to the point, it just looks odd
on the building. Like an afterthought. Probably would work better if it were
of materials more in keeping with the rest of the structure.
Interesting that so many assume it is non-Mormons complaining. How do you all
know that it is not a case of Mormons wanting respect for their religious
symbols?Personally, however, I think it looks more like a particular
bird than a temple spire.
That look only works on a real temple.
It does look a bit like the Manhattan LDS Temple.
When you're a paranoid conspiracy theorist, everything is suspicious. Next
it may be accusing Lego models of looking like a temple.
This is what you get in "small town America". Get a grip. How about the
TransAmerica building in SF??
As an LDS Boise resident... I'm both amused and mystified at the
"outcry" over the design of the building. Maybe people who live in the
"Moroni Belt" could spot some vague similarity to the spire, and Mormon
architecture. (A cube, with a smaller cube atop, and a spire sticking up.)The best suggestion I've heard so far - install a miniature bronze
"King Kong" statue, clinging to the spire!! (Now THAT would be a
souptwinsI agree 100%. I really don't see the problem. I
suspect this is more about a very successful businessman who is known to be LDS,
and some people just can't cope with that.Seriously, some people
really need to get a life.
That's what happens when standardized Mormon temples start to look like
enhanced secular buildings.
I had no idea Mormons had a patent on spires. Exactly which LDS temple looks
anything remotely like this building? Do these same people think the Empire
State Bldg. looks like a temple? Good grief! Talk about paranoid people
looking for something to whine about.