"essence of the law working just fine." It surely is - sky rocketed
insurance premiums = canceled long held insurance policies = cheaper policies
with high co-payments, higher out of pocket expenses = affordable inadequate
coverage. In short, we pay much more for a whole lot less.
"But he said, 'it's time for folks to stop rooting for its
failure.'"Why Mr. President? You and your party jammed
this down without a single Republican vote. And you wonder why we want to see
this fail? It's because it never had our support to begin with. You have
to earn support, not force it upon people. So whine all you want, but this
Republican will never support your left-lurching partisan inclinations and
I just spoke with a patient yesterday who signed up online for insurance. Her
husband makes 1,800.00 per month. She is unemployable. Her premiums will be
170.00 per month. Her deductible is 6K for physician related costs and 6K for
medications. This woman will be charged 13K!!! before her insurance kicks in a
dime, each year. Affordable Care??? I don't think so. Obama
is smashing the piggy bank, forcefully stealing the pennies and printing more
slugs in the garage. He is the worst President this country has ever seen. The
media is covering up this mess each day. Barry is getting away with it and all
of the "entitled" souls who elected him are cheering for this
socialistic dictator. Encouraging laziness and penalizing success
isn't the way this country became great.
Last week Canada’s Supreme Court ruled that doctors could not unilaterally
ignore a Toronto family’s decision to keep their near-dead husband and
father on life support. In the same breath, however, the court also confirmed
that, under the laws of Ontario, a group of government-appointed adjudicators
could yet overrule the family’s choice. That tribunal, not the family or
the doctors, has the ultimate power to pull the plug.In other words:
Canada has death panels. And, now so does America!
Marxist,I also see a weakening of our capitalist system of the
economy. Why is that?I believe it is because of the decreasing role
of religion and faith in America.I believe it is because of the
weakening of the family as the central unit of society.I believe it
is because divorce is too common.I believe it is because men,
including young men, are not living up to their abilities.I believe
it is because, after decades of effort, liberals have weakened our government
with entitlement programs that have left us bankrupt and have left individuals
dependent upon government programs.I believe it is because
politicians have too many safeguards that keep them in office.There
are many other things that are contributing to a weakening nation. Perhaps the
leaders, the voters, and everyone in between needs to take inventory of their
lives. A return to decency, to faith, to hard work, to personal responsibility
@ One vote. Obama and the Democrat's 10 alarm hissy fit rant against the
GOP and the TEA party is only because Obama and the demoborrowers detest anyone
questioning their irresponsible borrowing and spending party. How dare anyone
ask THEM for any fiscal accountability?
If he handles this like the house Republicans, no problem.
To "marxist" capitalism isn't failing. Fascism is failing along
with socialism.Just look at the industries that are struggling the
most or are hated the most. They are all being micromanaged by the Federal
Government. This is called Fascism.
re:HutteriteToo bad? Really? I would pay to hear a conversation
between yourself and one of the thousands of Utah residents who have seen their
health care premium double in cost. Yes that is DOUBLE with a capital D. I know
many poor souls who have seen their work hours go from 40 per week to 27 per
week due to the mandates of Obamacare. For those people - who where barely
making it as it - do you just say "oh well too bad"? Yes Hutterite it is
too bad. It is too bad that America has a socialist president and a completely
incompetent one on top of that. It is too bad that millions of hard working
Americans are going to LOSE their currently health care plan and be forced onto
something that they have to pay double for and doesn't meet their
needs....all 180 degrees opposite from what Mr Obama promised them. It is too
bad that millions who don't work and won't work get FREE health care
at the expense of those who do work and are carrying the load for all the dead
@jasonlivyYou misunderstand my comment. I'm saying that they
should absolutely have seen this coming. The fact that Pres Obama is saying
there's "no excuse" indicates that he doesn't understand
software, i.e. they're in over their heads, as you said, so I think
we're more in agreement than you realize. There are almost always
legitimate difficulties that come up when a major software product like this,
with lots of interactions with external systems, gets released. This happens
all of the time-- witness the instability of just about any first-version
software release, ever.
We can yack back and forth all we want, but capitalism is itself failing. The
debate on either side here is as they say 'rearranging the deck chairs on
lars:I'm shocked by your ignorance in this matter! What we are
seeing is what we can fully expect from the US Federal Government in regulating
our health care! The message that everyone should take away from this latest
example is the extreme level of incompetence demonstrated. I'm all about
compassion, but this is way beyond giving them a pass. There is simply no excuse
for this!True, there should be a degree of allowance offered, but
this program would have failed miserably in the free market. The government
doesn't play by the same rules, so no matter how badly they fail, they will
never be held responsible. No one will be fired and the government will continue
on in it's path of extreme mediocrity at best and criminal incompetence at
worst. Obama's administration has proven they are way over their heads time
and time again...The fact that they spent over $630 million on this
website that couldn't handle 15 million views is atrocious! Why defend
them? Why should we not demand better from our tax dollars?!
'essence of law 'working just fine'??? HA!! Barack is such a
demagogue. The essence of the law - meaning the skyrocketing cost of premiums
for the majority of current health care carriers? What about the reduction of
work hours to 27 for full time employees? Add to this the number of layoffs and
the lack of business expansion due to Obamacare. What in the world is this man
measuring to determine that the essence of law 'working just fine? This is
an outright lie.
I find it ironic that he did not mention the cost that people are finding in
this website, or is that a glitch also.I also find it ironic that he
did not talk about the 479,000 people who successfully signed up. However, they
are not either discussing how many of those 479k have opted for one of these so
called great plans. Just another tactic by Barry to hide behind something and
waste more time until it is too late and it has to be pressed. If it is that
important Barry, then agree with the GOP and suspend it for a year and get the
thing straight. Don't just try to jam it down our throat in the next six
months.I can see Barry now with his new computer crew....."Ummm,
fellas, just get it up and running, I don't care if it works, just get it
up and running so people will quit coming to me about it. By the time the
realize it won't work, it will be too late and my evil plan to destroy
America will be in full implementation."
To "Hutterite" you should be grateful that we didn't get a single
payer system.In 45 of 50 states insurance costs have gone up an
average of 73%. Now that is with private companies that have pay out 85% of
every dollar they take in. Which is much better than the 70% that the Federal
government pays out for every dollar they take in.Do you hate your
fellow man so much that you would want them to NOT get the care they needed
because the government couldn't afford it, didn't want to pay for for
"non-productive" people, or has waiting lists for procedures?
Obama is a master at taking the side of the average person in words, without
holding anyone responsible. He himself knows he will never be held responsible
and his feigned outrage is nauseatingly predicable. It literally turns my
stomach knowing that he continually excoriates himself from so many of the
horrible debacles his administration has found themselves in. He's done
this time and time again and I can only conclude he is a pathologic liar. At the very least he is not a man of his word. His words carry zero
weight. I'm tired of hearing how much he cares and that he understands the
plight of the middle class when his actions show he is only concerned about
passing his extreme liberal agenda behind closed doors. Obamacare will weaken
our country by forcing more people to rely on the government, something Obama
and his ilk only care about. Under Obamacare we will be less healthy due to the
super high deductibles, and the state of our health care in the US will
deteriorate.What will it take for the majority to see what is really
This is a classic government project - horribly inefficient - grossly over cost
and lots of finger pointing. Folks I'm afraid this is just a precursor of
things to come with Obamacare. This is just the web site which is nothing more
than a simple data entry site and the thing costs in excess of 200 million and
it runs like pig. I 100% guarantee there is no possible way this thing should
cost anywhere near this amount and the fact that it doesn't scale at all is
a HUGE red flag. Being an electrical engineer myself in the software business I
get a pretty good feel that the design on this site was horribly orchestrated -
the requirements from a UI perspective + the physical hardware including
database choice and then the overall architectural platform used. This should
have been an Amazon Cloud app but from the sounds of scalability issues and
costs it wasn't. Now this is just the web site - what about the LAW itself?
The LAW makes the web site look like a smooth running machine. The LAW is going
to bankrupt business and raise the cost of premiums beyond reach of most.
I think there's plenty of valid excuses for the glitches. A complex
software system like this is bound to run into problems without a slow,
controlled ramp-up. Opening the flood gates like this seems to be asking for
trouble. Lots of software companies go through a public Beta release first.
(Of course, a gradual increase would have its own share of problems, including
of course the need to be flexible on postponing when the fine for not signing up
starts to be imposed...)
@ BeverlyI totally agree. Thank you for being a voice of reason and
objectivity in this sea of partisan opinions. I too am a lifelong Republican
but agree that the health care industry is broken, needs reform and that the
Republicans need to either stop complaining about Obamacare or come up with a
viable alternative. Honestly, I don't care much for Obamacare but I have
to admit that at least it starts the discussion concerning the healthcare
problem in this country. If there are alternatives, if there is a better
solution, then let's hear it. Until then, we should all see the healthcare
industry for what it is and support improvements so that medical care and
prescription medications can be available for all.
@David, I completely agree. How did we expect this to work, let alone not break
the bank worse than it is, when we try to fund hugely expensive new initiatives
while ignoring our Social Security/Medicaid mess
When I was studying computer science at Westminster College I was told that 50%
of major software development projects crash and burn before completion - that
is, they never see the light of day. The outright failure rate is a little
lower for private sector and a little higher for public sector. I worked on a
major software development project for the Utah Department of Health - it
finally was a deliverable 3 years late! Why? Well software engineering is a
tough deal. That said, Obama had better get this done and soon!
My concern is cost. It is unthinkable to me, with our current federal debt and
deficit spending, that the government would add another program, and not just
any program, but a massive health program. We have &17 Trillion in debt.
We spend $300 billion this year on interest on the debt. We have a projected
$70 Trillion in unfunded liabilities. I am frustrated that after
two years to prepare, the roll-out is really a disaster and is costing several
times more than budgeted. Do we dare project the additional, unexpected costs,
forward throughout the program. What will it cost then? Would we have
supported this if we knew the true costs?Can we afford this? How
can we survive our current debt plus the debt this health care disaster will
add?I can't believe Obama ever won his first term, yet alone
The product is there; it's too bad the website is causing problems. And
it's too bad we didn't get real single payer health care.
Barry just finished another sales pitch on national tv. the consummate pitchman.
The problem is that he has nothing to sell. Good luck CO, the world is
I keep waiting for his pants to catch on fire! Obamas greatest talent is the
way he can lie, he is truly gifted. See, I can give credit where credit is due,
even to Obama.
@Beverly"President Bush tried to get a health care law passed
and failed. President Clinton tried to get a health care law passed and also
failed. President Obama got the job done, [by strongarm and bullying tactics,
but then afterwards failed, too, making more people sick - and sicker]"
Oh,joy. Another speech touting how wonderful Obamacare is. Wonder who
he'll blame for the HHS mess and what flavor of 'wall paper'
people he will have standing behind him this time?
I expect Obama to tell us these lies all over again:#1: Obamacare will
reduce healthcare premiums by $2,500 for a family of 4.#2: There will be
no individual mandate.#3; Complete transparency.#4: If you like your
current plan, you can keep it.#5: Allow drug companies to deal with the
government and lower costs.#6: You can keep your doctor.And since
NONE of these things are happening, Obama will say its the GOP that is making
his plan fail.
Does anybody really expect to hear the truth? Really.
I support Obamacare and I support the President. President Bush tried to get a
health care law passed and failed. President Clinton tried to get a health care
law passed and also failed. President Obama got the job done. Like all major
pieces of legislation, it will take time and adjustments. Give the President
credit for helping get a long over due health care law in place. I'm a
life long Republican and I know this law is necessary for America. Once the
profit seeking health care industry stops lobbying against this law with their
billions of dollars - it will be a good thing for all Americans. Ask
our Republican delegation how much money they have accepted from the health care
lobby in attempts to block Obamacare!
What he has to say is easy to anticipate. It's either the
Republican's fault or Bush's fault.