Published: Monday, Oct. 21 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT
Basically these four legislators said that they would be happy to let America
fail as long as President Obama gets the blame. Patriot is not a term that one
could apply to any of them.
I find this extremely funny since we all had to endure the endless rantings
about how when Obama was in the Illinois chamber he voted present (no vote)
several times. Oh how the far righties had a heyday with that. It was proof he
shouldn't be a leader. It will be interesting to see the
justification behind these lack of votes. Particularly from Lee... with all his
principles and all. If should have stared true to course, voted No against the
CR and the cap increase. He was all bluster when no shots were being fired, but
when the actual fight came to him, he was no where to be found. He had left his
Republican colleagues to make the hard choice.... his choice... to not make a
choice. Shameful seeing how he is one of the principles who
started the fight. You don't throw the first punch, then walk away,
leaving someone else to clean up your mess. Place the dang vote.
Whatever happened to government for the people by the people?I read
poll after poll from BYU and KSL how unpopular the shutdown was. All the polls I
read showed that a majority here in Utah did not support or agree with what our
state delegation was doing. So only a very small minority supported them.
Yet...Why then was our state delegation catering to the minority and
ignoring the majority?Could it be because the minority are the
delegates for the caucus system? Could it be that our state delegation was
catering to those who control our caucus system rather than adhering to those
who they're supposed to represent?Just another prime example of
why we need to "Count me Vote" and rid ourselves of the corrupt caucus
system. It merely breeds radicalism and extremism. Time to give the
majority a voice! Let freedom ring!
If you don't intentionally do something, you unintentionally cause bad
things to happen.
They all jumped onto the Tea Party sinking boat.
A solution is at hand if the people of Utah will rise up and vote against their
republican masters long enough to make voting count in Utah. Although there is
no guarantee that democrats would give people the right to elect the government,
the chances are slightly better than with the republicans.
i think they did just fine you all need to quit attacking the republicans and
stand for what is right and true the true enemy is democrats who want to keep us
in debt you ppl need to wake up we will default sooner or later you cant spend
like they been spending
Four members of Congress from Utah had the courage to NOT kick the can down the
road. Four members of Congress had the courage to NOT let Obama and Reid
dictate terms to the House. Four members of Congress kept their oath to protect
the Constitution.Those who are beating their chests over the fact
that we did not default seem to think that doing nothing means something.
Exactly what was done? Obama's credit card was renewed. That's all.
There is no budget. There was no compromise. The whole mess has to be repeated
in a few months.Apparently, that's what the liberals want -
continued chaos. Four members of Congress wanted to solve the problem NOW.
Embarrassments, all of them, No alternative, No ideas, No votes, No character,
next election No jobs."the true enemy is democrats" funny,
sad, but funny. The republicans really needed the red menace to focus their
collective hate upon or they start calling everyone one else "the
enemy." "Four members of Congress wanted to solve the
problem NOW." with continued chaos, ignorance, and grandstanding, not
Brad, RolandThe idea that the US would default on its debt was a scare
tactic created by the DNC, peddled by a lapdog media, and swallowed by a
gullible public.I assume that if you are employed and get paid more
than once a month that you received at least one paycheck during the dem-forced
shutdown. Did you not have taxes withheld? There is more than enough revenue
coming in to meet all the debt service requirements. The only way there would
have been a default was if Lew ignored the constitution and spent the money on
other things before servicing the debt.Bob,The answer is at
hand if the American people will rise up and vote against their dem masters.And all you lib apologists seem to ignore the fact that the house voted
to keep the government open – BO and the dems voted to shut it down. The
shut-down was purely a dem creation.
Great letter. These guys can go through an entire term without a single
accomplishment, and yet still get re-elected by constituents who only care to
hear about their "principles". We Utahns will vote against our own self
interests time and again!
To lost in D.C.: Every single bill submitted to the Treasury represents funds
that were legally and lawfully appropriated by Congress. Failure to pay any of
them constitutes a default. What you suggest would be like saying that as long
as you make your house payment, you can stop paying your car payment, utilities,
credit cards, etc. It's nonsense.
What really upsets the Democrats is that anyone would dare to question the
Democrat's irresponsible borrowing and spending party. How dare anyone hold
If I were a bank, I would be reluctant to loan money to those who think Lee,
Chaffetz, Bishop, and Stewart did the right thing by effectively voting for the
U.S. to default on its debt.
Surprise! The liberals here are not going to vote for any of the republican
incumbents. Who would have thought! I am sure they would have, had it not been
for the last 3 weeks. (Sarcasm off)The debt ceiling is a grade 2
rapid compared to Niagara Falls called bankruptcy, which is surely coming to the
US if we don't get our spending under control. Thank goodness some
legislators are willing to try to steer the federal government away from the
I read somewhere that governing by crisis (which has been done since 2010) has
consistently kept the GDP down by a full 1%. Imagine what a higher GDP could
accomplish/lead to?Is it really surprising Lee would play this card?
Am I the only one who recalls his playing fast & loose w/ his own mortgage?
The Junior Senator from Zion has no credibility IMO.
There are sins of commission and sins of omission. The black 4 are guilty of
both. Lets remove them all at the next opportunity.
We actually did partially default once in 1979 with one of these stunts
(didn't even cross the debt ceiling line but got close enough it messed
things up for a couple weeks). Interest rates rose half a percent as a result
which doesn't sound like much but cost the nation billions. So much for
deficit reduction... this stunt would've just increased the money spent on
absolutely nothing (interest) if the Utah delegation had their way.
Per the Huffington post, U.S. defaulted on its debts in 1814 and 1979. 1979
Bond holders sued to recover interest and the courts identified it as a default.
In 1971, the U.S. defaulted on their debts when demand for Gold to replace
dollars was not honored and we stiffed the French for millions. The U.S.
terminated the gold standard. That's three defaults on U.S. debt. We may
not be bankrupt yet, but we as a nation are insolvent. It is strictly propaganda
for the Congress and President to claim we have not defaulted ever. Go
get'em Lee. Orin is the one who needs to be recalled.
"The black 4 are guilty of both. Lets remove them all at the next
opportunity."Isn't it the liberal left who claim that
opposition to Obama is because of racism. Yet here a liberal uses a racist
label to denigrate the opposition and color as reason to remove them from
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