I love this new fad for Republicans of I'm not a Republican I'm a
libertarian. It's rampant through my friends and family. You
know there are basically two ways to look at liberty (the freedom to act without
restraint). One is to have liberty as your goal. Which means you eschew pretty
much all restrictions and rules. This is pretty hard to do in a civilized
society so what you see is ranting and raving about their favorite restrictions
(taxes, business, environment etc.) and outright non conformity to restrictions
they can get away with (traffic etc.). The irony is this view is so personal
that they are perfectly comfortable denying others their liberty when it strikes
them as appropriate.The second view is liberty as a means to and
pillar of a just and fair society. This view accepts some restrictions as a
means to a greater end. With this view one needs to be vigilant but not
absolute. I personally believe the founding fathers saw liberty as
a means to a just and fair society, not as an absolute.
@jsfCenterville, UT@The Hammer, No Glenn Beck has stated he is
not a republican, He is a conservative libertarian.9:29 a.m. Oct. 8,
2013========== Libertarians support medical marijuana, a
woman's right to choose, Gay marriage, and No foreign Wars.Not
a Republican for sure, but he's not a Libertarian either.
It's an entertaining spectacle, watching the elephant eating itself.
Paranoia will get you conservatives if you think that this conservative paper is
blocking your opinions, unless they are just off subject rants against Obama
which Dnews generally lets go again and again.The Purity needed to
be in the GOP party will just help it fade faster.
@Kent C. DeForrest;I'd stick them in the cellar, personally.
It's cold, dank and musty.@Gildas;Would you care to
guess at how many of my comments don't get posted? Civil, on topic, etc.
Nope. At least the moderators get to read them. :)
To "Ben" the GOP is going through a crisis right now. They have
Progressives that are leading the party, and don't like it when the more
libertarian members do well or show that their Progressive policies are
foolish.If the GOP wants to regain their credibility, they need to
look to the libertarians that have and are winning elections against very well
funded canidates. The problem is that the leadership won't do that because
it isn't about winning elections, but is about the Progressive leaders
retaining power over their dominions.
This discussion seems almost all one way; I wonder why? Maybe it is reflected
in the fact that the opinion I posted hours ago, on the other side, has not
appeared. That seems to be more and more how things are done nowadays. What on
earth was "wrong" with my opinion this time? And has anyone
else noticed how difficult it often is to "like" a post - of a
conservative shade. Make sure that your "likes" are recorded.
Sometimes I have had to click the "like" button as many as a dozen times
before it tallies my favorable response to a conservative opinion.My
own opinion, if you haven't guessed, is that people should fight for what
the believe is right and not succumb to a collective or politically correct
mentality. There are some who I believe would opine that the War in Heaven
should have been settled by a "compromise".Stand for
Even though I didn't vote for Lee, he is doing a good job of representing
me right now. I HOPE Obama doesn't cave on Obamacare. If the country
defaults, it will suffocate anyway due to lack of funding.
Badgerbadger writes "I have yet to hear a Republican leader talk about the
'other Republicans'."Maybe not much from the
"republican leaders" but plenty from others. Here is a short list.Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Justin Amash were called "wacko birds"
by John McCain.Ted Cruz was called a "Fraud" by Republican
Peter KingBob Corker criticized Ted Cruz of grandstanding with his
filibuster."I don't think ever we've had in the Senate
where we had a 21-hour filibuster and then the person carrying out the
filibuster voted for the issue they were filibustering," Corker said.
"I don't think that's happened in the history of our
country."No, this is hardly a "liberal media" induced
"If there is one absolute about Republicans today it is that we are a house
divided — and the inevitable result is predetermined."(Republican Representative Rick Crawford from AK "Will divided
Republicans help implement ObamaCare?" For "The Hill")
"A Pew Research Center survey conducted Sept. 19-22 found that 39% of Tea
Partiers believe a shutdown would have a major effect on the economy compared to
60% of non-Tea Party Republicans — a difference of 21 percentage
points.Tea Party Republicans are also far more likely than non-Tea
party Republicans to say lawmakers should stand by their principles even if it
means a government shutdown. About seven-in-ten (71%) Tea Partiers holds that
view compared with 38% of non-Tea Party Republicans. (Over half — 54%
— of non-Tea Party Republicans say lawmakers should be willing to
compromise even if it’s on a budget they don’t agree with."(Pew)"Open warfare has broken out inside the GOP between Tea
Party Insurgents and the Republican Party Regulars. It revolves around tactics,
more than policy. Grover Norquist recently provided an acid critique of
The ones that are calling some Republicans RINOS and some Republican TEA
Partiers, and saying how divided they are, would be the democrats and the media,
most of it very liberal. I have yet to hear a Republican leader talk about the
'other Republicans'.Could it be that the big divide is the
wish/imagination of the left?
@The Hammer, No Glenn Beck has stated he is not a republican, He is a
I have a better idea. Republicans should leave the GOP in droves, insisting that
they will not return until the GOP leadership locks the tea party fanatics back
in the attic where they belong. This is the only message that the GOP
"leadership" will understand. "one vote" is right:
you cannot unite with the tea party, not unless you become one of them. They are
the Borg. Resistance is futile.
Glenn beck this morning called for defunding the GOP. Glenn beck is a RINO. He
has the same goals as the democrats and that is to destroy the republican
leadership and crush the GOP under his boot heel. He doesn't represent me
or the conservative movement he only wants to kick people out of the republican
party. he doesn't care about winning elections he only wants to have a
party that agrees with him 100%.
Did you see how fast they turned on Mitt the other day when he dared to have an
opinion?They should start their own party of the Ultra Pure
Conservative Radio Party, led by dropouts and anger.Then the rest of the
nation can then get back to work, and they can slowly eliminate each other
through impurity trials and they won't waste our time dwindling into
On one hand, I don't mind at all that republicans are mired in childish
antics. On the other hand, it's harming our national being. We need adults
to run the place again.
Great letter Ben.I think the term RINO is employed on the wrong set
of Republicans. It infers that a moderate Republican is not a Republican. I
would label Lee and Cruz as the RINO's. They do not represent the
historical Republican party. Reagan would surely fit today's
definition of RINOIn today's GOP, one must adhere 100% conservative
principles or be labeled a RINO.Think Global warming is happening
and is man made? - RINOThink your gay child should be allowed to marry -
RINOThink taxes could be raised? RINOThink that Abortion should be
safe, rare and legal? - RINOEven if you are perfectly conservative
on all other issues. It only takes one.Can someone on the far right
give me a list of 10 republicans that are not RINO's?
No one can unite with the tea party, they must submit.