Does Jason Chaffetz even live in the District he represents?[I
don't think he does.]
OMGoodness, OMGoodness, OMGoodness!!I agree with Mike Richards.
It's a Miracle; a full blown, bonafide Miracle!God MUST exist
(well, maybe not, but...)...
MaxPower,I think your "Evidence" of gerrymandering is based on
false information and faulty deductive reasoning. #1. Democrats
gained seats in both Senate and House. Just not enough to give them a majority
in the House. How is that evidence of gerrymandering?#2. More
people voting for Democrats nationally or statewide doesn't automatically
mean you will get the same exact trend locally (or in House elections). People often vote for Democrats nationally and Republicans locally (or
visa versa). I tend to prefer Republicans nationally but Democrats locally,
because I want Federal spending and control reduced but local spending (where we
can control the amount and where it goes better) to be more liberal. But
that's just my philosophy.But pretending Senate distribution
should match the house distribution is bogus. Almost no states split their
Senate seats (it would be idiotic to do that, your representatives would vote
against each other on every issue so in effect your state would have ZERO
influence on any national issue). But local preferences may differ from the
state-wide majority. So you see a LOT of states that have split House
Representation (Utah is no different).
I wasn't making a case for gerrymandering at all. I was saying it was
common among legislators to do exactly what Mr. Chaffetz is doing. The internet
has made talking to them easier, so more people do it (a good thing) it also
makes it easier to write OTHER people's representatives. My
district is represented by Mr. Matheson, if I want something changed, I should
really write him or one of my two Senators. I should not be writing to Mr.
Chaffetz, he has enough people in his district writing him to have to answer my
letter as well.However if you want to see evidence of gerrymandering
(not necessarily in Utah) the fact that more people voted for democrats in the
2012 election, yet more Republicans won in the house...and yet the Democrats
gained seats (much more difficult to gerrymander a whole State).
Wahh Wahh.. I don't even know who my elected representative is... and my
zip code isn't enough to tell me. Come on, grow up... don't you even
remember who was in the general election? and who WON? This is something
every Boy Scout knows. You would think the adults in our neighborhoods would
know who their elected representatives currently are.If you think
it's hard keeping track of who your representative is in Utah (we have 4),
try living in California where they have 53! Think they have any gerrymandering
in CA? Think it always divides nicely along zip code lines?Zip
codes are designed for mail delivery... not voting districts.MaxPower,I don't know if this is evidence of rampant gerrymandering
in Utah either. Not everything divides best along zip code lines. Utah only
has 4 representatives in the House of Representatives. It seems like you could
remember which one is yours.Orrin Hatch is a bad example. He's
a Senator. So everybody in the State gets to vote for/against him, because
Senators are elected by the whole State, not a specific part of the State. So
no gerrymandering possible.
I tried to send John Boehner a piece of my mind. I got the same zip-code
rejection. But then I saw a little notice down in the corner for those outside
his district who wanted to contact him. It sent me to a page where I could leave
him a message. It apparently went through, but I haven't received a reply
yet. He probably didn't appreciate what I had to say. Neither would Jason.
The good Congressman should read the Constitition. The Constitution does not
subdivide the States into districts. We are allowed four members of the House
from Utah to represent ALL the people of Utah. Any Congressman who thinks that
he only represents a portion of the people of his State should be replaced with
someone who knows how to read the Constitution.
I CAN vote for Representative Chaffetz. I did not and I assure you he feels
absolutely no responsibility to listen to anything I say. He pretends I
don't exist. I, unfortunately, have a hard time doing the same about him.
I don't think this is a case of gerrymandering per se. Rather, because of
the convenience of the internet, it is now easier to contact one's
representative. Because of that, more people are doing so, and writing other
people's representatives. Mr. Chaffetz has a responsibility first and
foremost to those who can vote for him. If you were to go to Orrin
Hatch's website you wold see a similar messsage saying he can only respond
to letters written by Utah residents.
The joys of the gerrymandered. Utah should have a new motto: Give me
Gerrymander or give me death!
If that weren't enough, The GOP would simply skip houses that
weren't already the "R", or use "Ward" lists if they
could get away with it.