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Published: Thursday, Oct. 3 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Ranch
Here, UT

40 votes to repeal the ACA have already failed, so not they're taking hostages.

2 bits
Cottonwood Heights, UT

Re: "not by making the country, individual workers and the general economy suffer through a government shutdown"...

Exactly how is the general economy "suffering through a government shutdown"? Have you seen how the Stock Market has responded (with a yawn).

Are you individually suffering? How?

The news may be able to find people willing to wail for the TV cameras about how they are suffering from the shutdown... but how many people are going to wail about their insurance rates going up a coverages going down under ObamaCare? And how many people work for insurance companies in the United States that are going to be unemployed if ObamaCare is successful in destroying the private insurance companies in the USA?

Do you think the news will cover the impact to the economy and the people unemployed by the closing of US insurance companies when they start going under one by one? Unless they find other jobs (maybe yours or mine, or net new jobs) that's a LOT of unemployment.

Nan BW
ELder, CO

Shame on all of us for not doing a better job of electing leaders who would have nipped Obamacare before it ever got this far. The problem is not government shutdown but a disaster disguised as health care. The "affordable" health care is not that at all. Better a shutdown than failure to stand up for reason.

Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

What a total falsehood!

The House passed a budget. That is their duty. The duty of the Senate is to concur and to add amendments (if desired). The Senate is not authorized to originate budget bills, which is what Harry Reid did when he subtracted from the bill passed by the House.

The Democrats shut down the government. The Democrats closed the parks. The Democrats shut off WIC. The Democrats refuse to pay the National Guard. The Democrats refuse to pay the workers at Hill Air Force Base. The House funded all of that. The House funded everything except ObamaCare. Obame had a tantrum and threw everyone under the bus because he didn't get what he wanted.

The Republicans had absolutely nothing to do with the government shutdown - no matter what Obama and Harry Reid tell us. They shut down the government. Those two men have personally caused the havoc that troubles millions.

m.g. scott
clearfield, UT

Shame on the radical Democrats!!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

Agreed,

but when you said;
"I heard many of them state they did not want government to close..."

That was AFTER the shutdown.

Mike Lee and many others have said, and were on full time campaigns for MONTHS prior to, that they DID want a Government Shutdown.

Be careful for what you wish for...

SEY
Sandy, UT

Is it time to refer to Democrats as obstructionists now?

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

The real reason we have a partial shut down is because of Obama and Harry Reid. The Republican controlled House has sent numerous funding bills to the Senate and like the dictators they are, its their way or NO way!

JoeCapitalist2
Orem, UT

Shame on the author and all the other venomous partisans who insist that this government shutdown was purely one party's fault.

BOTH sides have dug in their heels and refuse to cave into the demands of the other side and are thus both equally responsible for the shutdown. Only the most partisan hacks refuse to acknowledge this.

The Republicans have at least backed off their initial hopes of completely defunding Obamacare and have moved towards a compromise. The president and the Democrats in the Senate so far have not budged an inch.

Irony Guy
Bountiful, Utah

Both sides are behaving like infants. It's time to sit down like adults and discuss how to make the health care law work and mitigate its unintended consequences. This is what grownups do.

T. Party
Pleasant Grove, UT

I'm proud of Mike Lee for having the courage to take a stand. Obamacare has done enough damage already.

Makid
Kearns, UT

Mike, I do request that you show me anywhere in the Constitution anything that confirms this: "The House passed a budget. That is their duty. The duty of the Senate is to concur and to add amendments (if desired)."

The House has refused to take up the budget that was legally passed by the Senate. The House has used partisan brinkmanship to bring the country to its knees. You notice, I am not singling out a party but rather 1/2 of Congress.

Now, if you would stop reading right wing propoganda and listing to talk radio and actually went out into the big and scary world, you might notice that many people that don't work for the government are having a severe impact due to the shutdown.

Hotels, restaurants and tour operators all have taken a direct hit due to the closuer of national parks. Other businesses will see a similar drop in revenue due to a loss of 800,000 consumers.

The stock market doesn't control revenue. It is based on the assumption that this will be resolved soon and include a debt ceiling fix. If that doesn't happen, the stock market will go down further.

booshway
Woods Cross, UT

This shutdown is wholly owned by the Democrats. Obamacare is 100% owned by the Democrats. NO Republicans voted for it. The House is listening to the American people and refuses to fund a one-party law that MOST of the country doesn't want and can't afford. Affordable Care Act? Are you kidding me?

booshway
Woods Cross, UT

Here's an idea - since Obamacare was passed with ONLY Democrat votes, how about ONLY Democrats be forced to participate - with the very first ones to sign up being Obama and the House and Senate Democrats?

Truthseeker
SLO, CA

Re:Mike

Boehner added, refreshed a favorite GOP talking point: "The Democrat-controlled Senate, it hasn't passed a budget in more than 1,000 days."

House Republican Paul Ryan: The U.S. Senate Democrats "have gone without any budget at all" for almost three years.
(2012)

The Senate passed a budget this year.

Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash., Budget Committee Chairwoman has attempted to go to conference on the Senate Democratic budget more than a dozen times this year. Each time Republicans have objected, worried that their House colleagues would agree to a deal on funding the government, raising the debt ceiling, or both.

Democrats have gone to the floor 18 times to try to get a conference on the budget.

Speaker John Boehner halted a vote last week on a two-month continuing resolution to keep the government funded.
(Sept 2013)

Ernest T. Bass
Bountiful, UT

The Affordable Care Act was first conceived and written by conservative republicans. The only reason they oppose it now is because The President implemented it. That is the only reason.
Had Bush passed the ACA, then repubs would love it and the country would be much better off for it.
This shutdown is due to the extremist who want to destroy the country.

Mountanman
Hayden, ID

@ booshway. Brilliant idea! But don't you find it amazing that the Democrats that gave us this mess exempted themselves and their friends from it with waivers? Too bad for the rest of us stooges!

LDS Liberal
Farmington, UT

@Mike Richards
South Jordan, Utah

What a total falsehood!

The House passed a budget. That is their duty. The duty of the Senate is to concur...

The Republicans had absolutely nothing to do with the government shutdown - no matter what Obama and Harry Reid tell us. They shut down the government. Those two men have personally caused the havoc that troubles millions.
6:57 a.m. Oct. 3, 2013

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Mike --
How can you possible argue that Republicans are absolved from any of this?

Please show us where in the Constitution it says that the Senate MUST concur with the House.

The Senate [by design] is there as a Gate-Keeper, not a rubber stamp of the House.
They rejected the House bill, and sent it back to them. [per the Constitution]

BTW - the President [Obama in this case] only gets involved by either Signing or Vetoing whatever the House AND the Senate finally passes and gives him. So technically, he hasn't done anything - yet.
but my guess is - Obama would have Line Item Veto'ed the bill to kept the Government running.

Democrats shutdown the Government....hardy har har.

Hemlock
Salt Lake City, UT

Mr. Bass,
Speaking of inconvenient truths, the fact is that conservative Republicans did not conceive the ACA. It was a superior bipartisan Wyden (D-OR)-Bennett (R-UT) proposal that was rejected by the Democrat administration. Do away with the congressional, big business and union exemptions and implement the entire ACA now. The middle class alone is shouldering the ACA and the economy is suffering as a result. Mr. Obama promised to protect the middle class, yet another empty campaign promise.

spring street
SALT LAKE CITY, UT

Why should we be negotiating with people holding our budget hostage over lost elections.

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