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Published: Monday, Sept. 30 2013 12:00 a.m. MDT

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Salt Lake City, UT

Here's the thing. Yes, polls show more disapprove of Obamacare than approve of it. However, a decent number of those that disapprove want it to be more liberal, not more conservative. They may not like Obamacare, but they dislike the Republican alternative even more. So polling shows that repeal of Obamacare has only 38% support to 44% opposition (CNBC poll). Even more people don't like using the threat of a shutdown to accomplish it. When tied to the idea of threatening shutdown if not defunded, only 19% support defunding Obamacare compared to 59% who oppose defunding Obamacare at the threat of shutdown.

lost in DC
West Jordan, UT

You point out why reid, BO, and the dems are willing to shut down the government despite the damage it will do to the economy – because they will win political points. Winning political points is more important to the dems than is the good of the country.

There are 55 some-odd senators and one potus holding the economy hostage.

Why do you think I leave “truth” out of t-seeker’s name? don’t forget that BO already made exceptions for corporations, delaying their implementation for 1 year. Libs are always complaining that the scotus calls corporations people, but now BO is treating corporations BETTER than people, yet still the libs grovel at his feet.

You admit the repubs had a plan! Finally turned on something beside msnbc? There may be hope for you yet.

one vote
Salt Lake City, UT

Senator McCain called the tea party "wacko birds". This sounds like an in fight. Sit back and watch if the tea party take over the United States.

Hyrum, UT

@ alt134:

Try harder to keep up on current news. Conservatives have offered a compromise that does NOT entail defunding Obamacare... just delaying it for a year while very obvious flaws can be corrected, which is not at all unreasonable... especially since Obama has already issued similar exemptions to unions and other special interest groups who supported him. American people truly deserve the same type of consideration as Obama's special interest groups are getting.

It's now the liberals who are unwilling to compromise whatsoever. If the government does get shut down, it should be on their heads, regardless of how the liberal media tries to spin it.

One other thing. The general population is NOT rejecting Obamacare in the polls because it isn't liberal enough. That's simply crazy talk. They are rejecting it because it's already costing thousands of jobs and turning tens of thousands more into part-time jobs. Even the Congressional Budget Office has recently released numbers showing that Obamacare is now going to cost at least double what the administration originally estimated... the phony numbers they used to sell it. Most people now see it as the huge train-wreck it is.

Mcallen, TX

JohnJacobJingleHeimerSchmidt--Please! All American wars combined, doesn't equal trillions.

A million is a thousand , thousands, a billion is a thousand million, and a trillion is a thousand billion.

spring street

If defunding the ACA is as popular an idea as the GOP would like us to believe then why are the votes not there in both houses and a president in office to do so? there is a reason they have to try to piggy back such a bad idea onto such serious legislation instead of letting it stand on its own.



80% of Republicans favor “creating an insurance pool where small businesses and uninsured have access to insurance exchanges to take advantage of large group pricing benefits.” That’s backed by 75% of independents.

57% percent of Republicans support “providing subsidies on a sliding scale to aid individuals and families who cannot afford health insurance.” That’s backed by 67% of independents.

54% of Republicans favor “requiring companies with more than 50 employees to provide insurance for their employers.” That’s backed by 75 percent of independents.

52% of Republicans favor “allowing children to stay on parents insurance until age 26.” That’s backed by 69% of independents.

78% of Republicans support “banning insurance companies from denying coverage for pre-existing conditions; 86 percent of Republicans favor “banning insurance companies from cancelling policies because a person becomes ill.” Those are backed by 82 percent of independents and 87 percent of independents.
(Ipsos-Reuters Poll 2012)

Factcheck (2012)
"The CBO report shows that the gross (not NET)yearly costs of ACA are likely to be 8.6% higher (not double) than originally estimated."

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